bwahahaha. Just because someone has not been on the column or the leaning tower
does not mean they don't have the skills and know-how to safely (is that
possible?) summit el cap or half dome - and I know people with far more wall
experience than what you suggest with horribly scary technique.
I agree that you shouldn't be learning to jug on the nose - but you shouldn't
be learning to jug on the WFLT either.
I just soloed Mescalito (topped out a week and a half ago) - first wall, first
time in yosemite, first time on anything bigger than grade III... but I was
fully prepared, and never had a technical problem I was unready for - and I
had trained for far worse. Did it in decent time too, for a soloist.
Anybody can be slow, regardless of experience level - the newbs just seem to
pick the more public places to get in the way. ;)
> Over the years I have been blown away by climbers that try El Cap or Half
> Dome with no Big Wall Experiance.
> They put themselves and everyone else in danger.
> You should not be learning how to jug at the base of the Nose,
> I have seen this.
> Their should be some type of law, no South Face of Washington - no
> El Cap or Half Dome.
> You are not ready until you learn the basics.
> Thats Big Wall, free climbing in the Yosemite is also a problem.
> Gym climbers should not be learning trad on Cathedral Peak!
> I have seen this. Six parties, spending hours leading pitches that should
> take 15 min.
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