> "Madbolter"
>>Figure out which side I'm on yet, genius?
> You can't say rap bolting is for pussies, then talk about how you've rap
> bolted without having others question your ego. You seem to take the best
> image of both sides, not quite satisfied with a solid stance on one or the
> other.
I said retrobolting, not rap bolting is for pussies. I have no problem
with the method of bolt placement as long as they are quality bolts,
placed well. But adding bolts to a line years after the FA, when it is
fully protectable with traditional gear AND in a wilderness area of
Josh which has been under a bolting ban since 1993 is *indefensible* no
matter which side of the ground up, top down, sport vs trad vs gymbie
camp you're on. Ego has nothing to do with it. Getting climbing banned
from Josh, OTOH, has everything to do with it.
> I'm happy to hear that you generally follow the rules of others - but in the
> end, both you and the illegal rap bolter are sticking metal in the rock.
> The least you could do is own that commonality, IMO.
open season taking only his legal limit versus a poacher, off season,
taking three times the normally legal limit and shooting a few
family pets just for the hell of it because he likes to kill things.
One is an upstanding member of society. The other, a criminal.
Yes, I place bolts, but those I place are legally placed (managed if
you will) and in keeping with long time valued traditions (such as
not adding bolts to routes done w/out them). I will also attach my
name to my work, not anonymously hiding my impact in the shadows.
The wilderness retrobolter and I are vastly different creatures.
-Rex Pieper