Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by James Klet » Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:00:00


Does anyone know where this place is approx?

and how to aquire route info etc...?

I plan to be in AZ on a road trip next month and would like
to check it out

JIM

 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by Steelmnk » Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Does anyone know where this place is approx?

No, but I know where it is exactly.

Quote:
>and how to aquire route info etc...?

Buy the guidebook.

Quote:
>I plan to be in AZ on a road trip next month and would like
>to check it out

Bring your snowshoes. It's a summer-time climbing area
at an elevation between 7000 and 8000 feet.

G.

Greg Opland
Phoenix, Arizona

 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by James Klet » Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I havn't seen a guidbook on this place thats why I asked.

Why is it people can't just answer a question decently w/o
beeing a smart #$%

JIM


Quote:

>>Does anyone know where this place is approx?

>No, but I know where it is exactly.

>>and how to aquire route info etc...?

>Buy the guidebook.

>>I plan to be in AZ on a road trip next month and would like
>>to check it out

>Bring your snowshoes. It's a summer-time climbing area
>at an elevation between 7000 and 8000 feet.

>G.

>Greg Opland
>Phoenix, Arizona


 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by Bob Tern » Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:00:00

#I havn't seen a guidbook on this place thats why I asked.

Go to www.rocknroad.com,

#Why is it people can't just answer a question decently w/o
#beeing a smart #$%
#
#JIM

I dunno, whiner. Yeah, he wasn't exactly the most helpful, but whatever. We're
really sorry to have wasted your precious time, and not subserviently typed
your exact wishes.

It will be too cold anyway to plan on. That's the point.

Go away before you drop your rattle.

Bob Ternes

 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by nitehaw » Sun, 31 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Quote:


> #I havn't seen a guidbook on this place thats why I asked.

 Then Bob Ternes wrote

Quote:
> Go to www.rocknroad.com,

James started crying

Quote:
> #Why is it people can't just answer a question decently w/o
> #beeing a smart #$%
> #
> #JIM

Bob explains

Quote:
> I dunno, whiner. Yeah, he wasn't exactly the most helpful, but whatever. We're
> really sorry to have wasted your precious time, and not subserviently typed
> your exact wishes.

> It will be too cold anyway to plan on. That's the point.

> Go away before you drop your rattle.

        Try this on for size. Do a little goddamn research, order books from the
library, learn to do the footwork yourself and quit expecting to get shit the
easy way. You hang around here long enough, and you get to know these ***ers
a little bit. They don't like lazy posers any more than I do. You get treated
just as harshly as the weenie-term-paper-writing college student that's too
lazy to do research for their papers and just posts their ignorance all over
the n.g's, hoping to get something for nothing.
        Christ all mighty, I get sick of the whining 'cuz some dumbass wants it
dished out w/o doin any work. In my day, half the fun was finding out. Oh,
btw, I agree with Bob's last sentence.

--
Rick "can you spell s-e-a-r-c-h e-n-g-i-n-e?" Hanks

**Remove "NoSpam" from e-mail address to reply**

 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by Steelmnk » Mon, 01 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>I havn't seen a guidbook on this place thats why I asked.

From my reply, you now know there is one and it should be quite
available from any of the usual mail-order houses (Chessler, Amazon.com,
etc.) The authors name is David Bloom. In fact, I just went over to the
Amazon.com site (www.amazon.com, in case that's too smart ass or
vague) and typed "Paradise Forks" in the search box...guess what
came up?

Quote:
>Why is it people can't just answer a question decently w/o
>beeing a smart #$%

Hmmm....I would say that my response was terse and may have
bordered on the sarcastic with the "exactly" comment, so maybe
you got me there. Damn, everyone's gonna know I'm a smart ass
now...the dead cat's out of the bag.  :-)

More to the point, the area may likely be under snow while
you're here (might not - but it will be pretty chilly), so there wasn't
much point in spending a lot of time responding. I would also point
out in the vein of my friend and mentor Lord Slime, that people
tend to get a little lazy with their info requests on here sometimes
It would not have been hard to find the information you requested
by performing a very simple web search... altavista.com turns up
36 web hits on "Paradise Forks", several of which point directly
at sources for the guidebook.

1. Paradise Forks Rock Climbing - Adventurous Traveler Bookstore
URL: www.adventuroustraveler.com/atb/utaznm/G3463.HTM

2. Paradise Forks Rock Climbing- Adventurous Traveler Bookstore
URL: 199.183.146.30/atb/utaznm/G3463.HTM

3. Paradise Forks
URL: violetta.la.asu.edu/users/fsa/personal/c...g/paradise.html

4. Paul and Clint's Climbing Area Index
URL: www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~paulf/CLIMBING_INDEX.html

5. Rock 'N Road: Arizona
URL: www.rocknroad.com/az/

6. Climbing the ROCKS
URL: www.thejack.nau.edu/041697/sports6.html

7. Steve Waydo's Climbs
URL: weber.u.washington.edu/~waydo/climbing/climbs.html

8. Sport / Recreation Books Alphabetic Index (letter P) from Open Group
URL: www.openpublishing.com/op/books/bkixsrp.html

9. Technique - Climb Those *** Cracks
URL: flash.lakeheadu.ca/~lurock/crack.html

10. Rock 'N Road: New on 'The Road'
URL: rocknroad.com/new/new.html
?Books about "Paradise Fo...
?Amazon.com Bestsellers ?AltaVista Shopping ?Visit our Online
?Shopping Guide

11. Instruction page
URL: www.verticalrelief.com/serv01.htm

12. ROUTES - (wow! information from me!)
URL: www.abilnet.com/azmtnclub/routes.htm

13. Adventurous Traveler Bookstore - USA Southwest: Arizona, New Mexico & Texa
URL: 199.183.146.20/atb/aznmTX.htm

14. Arizona az rock climbing, mountain, mountaineering, wilderness guides,
guidebo
URL: www.ddgps.com/staterockclimbing/Arizona_...ks_and_Maps.htm

15. Climbing Magazine / Index issues 88 - 117-2
URL: www.climbing.com/Pages/index88-117-2.html

16. Adventurous Traveler Bookstore - USA Southwest: Arizona, New Mexico & Texa
URL: 199.183.146.30/atb/aznmTX.htm

17. Climbing Book List of the Southwestern US
URL: www.halcyon.com/ykania/SWestclimbing1.html

18. The MacScouter's Bookstore
URL: www.macscouter.com/Bookstore/Rock_Climbing.html

19. Arizona Climbing Summary (wow! more information from me...)
URL: www.dtek.chalmers.se/Climbing/Guidebooks...zone_intro.html

20. Forks Washington The Anglers Paradise - OBVIOUSLY NO GOOD!

21. Rock 'N Road: Guidebooks
URL: www.rocknroad.com/order/order.shtml

22. Termology
URL: www.math.umu.se/~jwi/climbing/glossary.html

23. Rock 'N Road: Area Guidebooks
URL: rocknroad.com/order/areabooks.html

24. Areas Climbed
URL: violetta.la.asu.edu/users/fsa/personal/c...g/areamenu.html

25. Arizona Climbing (a collage) - Wow!  Pictures I may have scanned!
URL: 129.16.30.11/Climbing/Guidebooks/NorthAm...fs/collage.html

26. Climbingfool's Favorite Climbs
URL: www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Trails/9068/favclimb.html

27. New Page 5
URL: nic.savba.sk/logos/journals/jamesak/j4_miden.htm

28. Jamesak
URL: nic.savba.sk/logos/journals/jamesak/j_palive.htm

29. Rock 'N Road: Paradise Forks, Arizona
URL: www.rocknroad.com/az/areas/38AZ/38az.html

30. California Climber's Network: Guest Book
URL: www.climbnet.com/scripts/$webdbc.exe/cli...uests/view.htx?

31. 5.10 Climbing Club Outing Reports
URL: www.serve.com/essex/outings.html

32. Climbing Magazine / Index issues 88 - 117
URL: www.climbing.com/Pages/index88-117.html

33. Introduction -- 5.10 Climbing Club
URL: www.serve.com/essex/5-10intr.html

34. The Climbing Glossary
URL: www2.tcd.ie/Sport/Climbing/funny.html

35. No Title
URL: www.dtek.chalmers.se/Climbing/Training/FAQ/FAQ.cli18.txt

36. No Title - ARIZONA CLASSIC CLIMBS (From north to south) URL:
129.16.30.11/Climbing/Guidebooks/NorthAm...a/az_clsic.html

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I drew the line at going to all these sites to find out which ones
will be more valuable to you in your search for information. Let
me know if you want me to check them all out for you and see
which ones have good info.

Boy, I'm just getting myself in trouble, aren't I?

G.

 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by michael sche » Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Bring your snowshoes. It's a summer-time climbing area
>at an elevation between 7000 and 8000 feet.

>G.

We climbed at the Forks two weeks ago in T-shirts, it's
been a dry winter.

Mick

 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by Ed Smi » Tue, 02 Feb 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> Does anyone know where this place is approx?

> and how to aquire route info etc...?

> I plan to be in AZ on a road trip next month and would like
> to check it out

> JIM

Jim,

The Forks is about 25-30 miles WSW of Flagstaff, Arizona, South of I-40.
You really need a map and/or specific directions, it is really easy to get
lost back in there.

The elevation is high (about 7000') but the winter in N. AZ has been
extremely mild thus far.  There is probably very little (if any) snow out
there right now but you never know, it could snow 2' next week.  All the
climbing is in a small canyon and although there are many faces, I would
think that sunny aspects would be the exception.  Good crack climbing thou
of many different grades and not a bolt in sight.

Have fun,

Ed

 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by rick » Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>All the climbing is in a small canyon and although there
>are many faces, I would think that sunny aspects would be
>the exception.  Good crack climbing thou of many different
>grades and not a bolt in sight.

Sorry Ed, there are a few bolts and fixed pins there.  The Basalt has
changed much from my first visits (15 years ago).  Much, much
slicker-and the grades all jumped from 5.9 (inside joke).  Please, if
anyone goes there, lead climb to reduce route wear.  Rock is really
solid and takes all active camming gear.  Unfortunately top roping
allows more routes to be done per day, but that increases the slimyness
of the once great Basalt.  If you want to TR, try it on seldom visited
routes or go to Carderrock.  Remember also, Chalk was forbidden there
(as were 'easy' friends).  Try chalkless if you can.

rick D

CWM RULES (for trundling-or Trafalmador)

 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by Steelmnk » Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>We climbed at the Forks two weeks ago in T-shirts, it's
>been a dry winter.

Definitely possible, but I'm not sure I'd cash in my road trip on
a promise of warm days at 8000 ft.. I checked the weather for
Sedona and Prescott (both lots lower in elevation) today...that
falcon ban at GM is coming fast! Lows at freezing (32F) and
highs in the upper 50's. Knowing that it takes most of a day
for the temps to get up to that high, I'm not sure I'd bet on t-shirt
weather...

But then you never know. Just have to check the temps
and get a little lucky.

G.

 
 
 

Paradise Forks Arizona? R&I Feb-99 pg.89

Post by Steelmnk » Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Ricky says:

Quote:
>Please, if anyone goes there, lead climb to reduce route wear.
>Rock is really solid and takes all active camming gear.  Unfortunately
> top roping allows more routes to be done per day, but that increases
> the slimyness of the once great Basalt.

One of the really unfortunate side effects of the recent climbing
boom has been the effect on Paradise Forks. It is a beautiful place
that has seen much more traffic in the last five years than has been
good for it. The rangers have good reason to be getting e***d
about the huge negative impact climbing has had on the rim of the
canyon. Braided trails and lots of dead and dying plantlife.

Please try to tread lightly if you go there.
And take Rick's advice.

G.