> GEEEEZ! I've only been climbing for a few months now so I'm new, but this
> kind of sounds ridiculous to me. I had an older climber teach me the basics,
> but I started to (and wanted to) lead the first day I was climbing.
What kind of basics? Place cams, stoppers, etc. or only clip bolts?
Agreed, clipping is easy, although you'd be surprised....
> stuff, of course, but just leading. Now (three months later) I lead 5.10's
> and feel pretty good about it. So if you need to practice lead falls, my
> question is, why not go out and lead?
Because "practising" falls on lead is not what learning to lead is about.
> I have taken a couple falls, and they can be (are) scary. But I really
> "don't get" the idea that seems rampant in rec.climbing that top-roping for
> years before leading is THE way to climb.
Since you have only been climbing for a few months, I assume that is the
same time frame for your interest in this newsgroup. You are wrong,
top-roping isn't considered THE way to climb here. Besides, if some
people want to TR, let them.
> Just get some instruction, go lead and have fun!---------J.R.
Not everybody likes to lead. I know some good climbers who just don't.
Leading is something that has to come to the climber at his/her own pace.
If a climber wants to practise leading and falling on top rope, they
should do that.
Just for the record, I started leading half a year after I learned to
climb and I never practised on top rope. I too just started leading. I
learned from following, never took a lead class. Worked fine for me, but
I would not jump to the conclusion that this is the way everybody should
Also, there is more to leading than just placing the next cam...you have
to know about fall consequences, route finding (unless, of course, you
have a straight line of bolts above you...), anchors, second protection,
and so on. Frankly, to assume all this can be done in a short period of
time is a bit too rash for my taste.
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