Dragonfly Quads + The "Laws Of Quads"

Dragonfly Quads + The "Laws Of Quads"

Post by The Puppet Kite Ki » Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:18:53


[was "even more quad concepts..."]


Quote:
>   Of course, actually working out all the specifics will take a lot longer
> than just the basic concept of the mechanics involved.

 ref:  http://SportToday.org/

 Maybe I need more information to understand your concept, but keep in mind
that (the way I see your drawing) if you pull the bottom right panel towards
you (the flier), the kite will _not_ spin clockwise, it will spin
_counter_-clockwise. Yep, that's right! Try it!
 I pulled out all my hair trying to make an airplane quad this way
:-(
Got hair?
;-)

See: http://SportToday.org/

 [Tip - think of a propeller]
My conclusion with quad design is that if you try to *correct* the kite with
hardware or handle/line configurations, you end up *trying to learn how to
play the piano while*** upside down*. (leaving the piano right-side-up)
Doable, but practical?
 I think there is a *natural* science to quad design, where the kite is
based on a rectangle, lets say the *design starting point* for the sail area
(or "aspect ratio", I reckon) being three squares put together.
[_][_][_] or better:  [..][..][..] omitting spaces between squares
 _Now_, you have to come up with a *natural and predictable* control.
 Pull on the bottom left corner and it should spin counter-clockwise. Pull
on the bottom right corner and it should spin clockwise. Pull the top(s)
towards you the same amount and the kite goes *forward* (up). Pull on the
bottom(s), likewise and the kite goes *reverse* (down).

 If my kites do _not_ do this, I wad them up and throw them away. This is
why I use Tyvek and wooden dowels for experiments. (Although my *success
rate* seems to be improving ;-)

 First... Have fun!

 The Kid

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Dragonfly Quads + The "Laws Of Quads"

Post by Atomic Sku » Thu, 14 Sep 2000 05:42:35

Quote:

> Maybe I need more information to understand your concept, but keep in mind
>that (the way I see your drawing) if you pull the bottom right panel towards
>you (the flier), the kite will _not_ spin clockwise, it will spin
>_counter_-clockwise. Yep, that's right! Try it!
> I pulled out all my hair trying to make an airplane quad this way

  If you pull the bottom wing toward you, both withs will "pitch" into the
reverse flight angle, if thew top with is pulled forward, both will pitch into
the forward flight angle.  I'm, going to have some hardware at the center of
the kite that causes this.

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