Prism Prophecy, buy or don't buy...

Prism Prophecy, buy or don't buy...

Post by Bart van Oer » Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:00:00


Hi everyone

I interested in the new Prism kite : the Prophecy

I already have the Illusion standard and the Illusion Vented.
I've read the review the kite by Matthew McGee but I still have a couple of
questions.

I know there are a few people out there who own the kite.

What I'm interested in is, although it's different to every kiteflyer, the
answers to my
questions.

Is the Prophecy that good so that I can replace my Illusion by a Prophecy?

Does the Prophecy only supplements the Illusion because the Illusion can do
things that a Prophecy can't do?

Are the Prophecy and the Illusion two totally different kites for two
different flying styles both very capable of doing their own thing?

I'm interesed in the reactions.

Greetings

Bart van Oers

 
 
 

Prism Prophecy, buy or don't buy...

Post by Krame » Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>Is the Prophecy that good so that I can replace my Illusion by a Prophecy?

The two kites are very different. Although I 'probably' enjoy the Prophecy
more (for my style of flying) It's nice to go back to the Illusion for
variety. One does not replace the other, because they are both very
different. Even more different than the Illy from the Vapor

Quote:
>Does the Prophecy only supplements the Illusion because the Illusion can do
>things that a Prophecy can't do?

I'm not sure of anything that the Illy can do that the Proph can't. So far I
can do the same things with both. But the proph is bigger, slower, more
precise in it's tracking and more graceful. For me It's more like indoor
flying. I enjoy slower finese type flying. But then on occation - I like to
get down with the Illy and some fast frantic tricking.

Quote:
>Are the Prophecy and the Illusion two totally different kites for two
>different flying styles both very capable of doing their own thing?

For the most part yes - but the Proph tricks very well and is probably - yes
I would say easier to fly and easier to trick than the Illy. Since it's
slower the pilots reaction time doesn't need to be as fast, giving someone
learning new tricks time to think about their movements. The more precise
tracking gives more accurate control.  Myself I couldn't part with one to
get the other.  They are both so different. I just depends on what I'm in
the mood for.  I am the proud owner of the first Proph delivered to a end
user.  But I still have my Vented Illy and a Std Illy - and the Proph hasn't
stopped me from ordering a new Rainbow Illy!

I'd suggest you get on a field with a dealer demo or kite club and try one!

 
 
 

Prism Prophecy, buy or don't buy...

Post by Walt » Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:00:00


Quote:
>Hi everyone
>I interested in the new Prism kite : the Prophecy
>Is the Prophecy that good so that I can replace my Illusion by a Prophecy?

The prophecy is very different from an Illusion. Replace? you wont get rid of
your illy. They fit different roles so it's really not an issue of replace.

Quote:
>Does the Prophecy only supplements the Illusion because the Illusion can do
>things that a Prophecy can't do?

Once again. They are just different. The Prophecy is sort of a big slow motion
Illusion, but it's even more different than that. It can trick in lighter winds
and is alot floatier in trix. It wants to do them slower and for the most part
flatter. In alot of ways it feels ozone like, but alot bigger. For the most part
it can do the same stuff as an Illusion, but only in lighter winds, and it does
it more slowly. It doesnt carry the momentum that the Illusion does, and it
it doesnt have the Illy's stiffness in the frame, so you cant yank it around
as much as you can an Illy. You just have to do it a little different. Like
axels tend to be floated more than whipped around. Flatspins and axels are alot
flatter on the proph than the illy. It's just different feeling.  

Quote:
>Are the Prophecy and the Illusion two totally different kites for two
>different flying styles both very capable of doing their own thing?

They definitly have different feels. In turns, the proph is more solid so doing
a crispy 90 is easier. It's slower and more steady, so gusts and stuff don't
speed it up like an Illy, maybe cuz the sail is very deep, and the thing is so
large. For trix, the Illy has a big advantage, as it will trick over a greater
wind range, and do things faster. The proph will trick very capably in lighter
winds, and really can do just about everything the Illusion can, just slower
and flatter. The proph isnt really billed as a trick kite, and it isnt. It can
trick very well in lighter winds, but when it picksup, it just wont let go of
the wind long enough as it would like since it likes to do tricks slowly. It's
not a big Illusion, it's just a different kite. I think it would be very good
in teams but I'm not a team flier so I cant say for sure. Best thing I can say
is get your hands on one and try it first. Also be sure to have enough time to
play with the bridle. Moving the tp down and then moving the ohter line to an
outer knot changes its flight a whole lot. It will turn faster, and flip flop
better, but fades dont lock as hard as stock. Right now I like it about .5"
below the black mark and out one knot. I'm still playing with it though, and
that's just me. Others may not like it that way. Just be sure to fiddle for a
while. It's not something you're going to get in like 20 mins, unless maybe you
are very very familiar with tuning bridles and know what you like. I'm still
working on it myself.

Hope this helps.

Walt
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Prism Prophecy, buy or don't buy...

Post by Tom Arbst » Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Hi  Bart, and all other interested party's,

The local people in Oklahoma who have them "REALLY" like them, and
those who have flow them also like them very much, the BIGGEST thing
that is uncomfortable about it is the $$$$$$,

so if your pockets are deep enough, and you can afford one, go for it
you should not regret it.

tom A.
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 20:18:10 +0100, "Bart van Oers"

Quote:

>Hi everyone

>I interested in the new Prism kite : the Prophecy

>I already have the Illusion standard and the Illusion Vented.
>I've read the review the kite by Matthew McGee but I still have a couple of
>questions.

>I know there are a few people out there who own the kite.

>What I'm interested in is, although it's different to every kiteflyer, the
>answers to my
>questions.

>Is the Prophecy that good so that I can replace my Illusion by a Prophecy?

>Does the Prophecy only supplements the Illusion because the Illusion can do
>things that a Prophecy can't do?

>Are the Prophecy and the Illusion two totally different kites for two
>different flying styles both very capable of doing their own thing?

>I'm interesed in the reactions.

>Greetings

>Bart van Oers

Regards
  tom A.  the "KITEMAN"  


http://www.telepath.com/kiteman/
Toll Free ORDER # 1-877-45-KITES (54837)
 
 
 

Prism Prophecy, buy or don't buy...

Post by Frederick Pa » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00


Hi Bart,

Quote:
>Is the Prophecy that good so that I can replace my Illusion by a Prophecy?

No (see later).

Quote:
>Does the Prophecy only supplements the Illusion because the Illusion can
>do things that a Prophecy can't do?

Yes.

Quote:
>Are the Prophecy and the Illusion two totally different kites for two
>different flying styles both very capable of doing their own thing?

Definately. The P seems to be a big brother of the Illu, but it's really a  
different kite. The Illu is quite "stiff", the P has more flexible rods  
(Skyshark, Illu has Avia).

Kind regards

Frederick

 
 
 

Prism Prophecy, buy or don't buy...

Post by Krame » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>>Are the Prophecy and the Illusion two totally different kites for two
>>different flying styles both very capable of doing their own thing?

See what goes into making a Prophecy - View the slide show...
"The Making of a Prophecy" online at  www.prismkites.com/fly2/1.htm

Other new Prism 'NEWS' at www.prismkites.com/newstuff.htm

Remember the Proph comes with a really cool padded kite bag that's easily
worth 35-39 bucks in itself. I use it this time of year to carry 6-7 indoor
kites. Because I hate carrying my large kite bags when 90% of the kites in
it aren't needed. Hey - that reminds me, there should be some  - proph bag
shots in the slide show...