Help With No Wind & Too Much Wind?

Help With No Wind & Too Much Wind?

Post by Frilb » Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Firstly I will apologise in advance for what I am sure will be a
frequently repeated question... But here goes!

What recommendations are there for an outdoor very light wind kite (0+
km/h)? I've been searching for comments on the Flashlight and the Ozone
and I guess it seems to come down to personal preference...

I'm not really a trick flyer (at least not intentionally) but have a
fair amount of experience with kiting. I currently have a 3.6m Peel,
Pocket Peel, Windancer 1 2000, and two fairly high end stunt kites
(locally made). I'm now looking at finding something for the lower end
of the wind scale...

Unfortunately being in Perth, Western Australia I will not have the
chance of flying before I buy, so I'm relying on all you guy's and
gal's for enough feedback to help make a more informed choice...

That's the No Wind problem, now for the Too Much Wind problem... Can
anyone recommend any quick release harness systems for power kiting. In
Perth, it's not uncommon to get a pretty strong breeze (25-30+ km/h)
most afternoons in summer, enough to pull me (110kg) around with my
3.6m Peel. Unfortunately with this sort of breeze, I can usually only
fly for about 15-20 minutes before my arms are about twice their normal
length (not to mention the pain in my wrists). A harness or something?
is my only hope (with safety being a number one priority).

Sorry for the long posting... Many thanks in advance and hope to hear
from everyone out there!

Take Care,
Wayne

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

 
 
 

Help With No Wind & Too Much Wind?

Post by Andrew Beatti » Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> That's the No Wind problem, now for the Too Much Wind problem... Can
> anyone recommend any quick release harness systems for power kiting. In
> Perth, it's not uncommon to get a pretty strong breeze (25-30+ km/h)
> most afternoons in summer, enough to pull me (110kg) around with my
> 3.6m Peel.

You want Lynn deadman handles.  I've got some pictures stashed away
at the top of:

http://www.tug.com/kites/kitesail/handles.html

Get them from the same place you got your Peel.

--
Andrew Beattie
http://www.tug.com

 
 
 

Help With No Wind & Too Much Wind?

Post by Jamey Fountai » Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Depending on your price range, the Feather, the Wren, or if you have the
money for it, one of the best SUL's on the market is the AerZero by PBSK
(www.sportkite.com/azreview.html ).

Jamey


Quote:
> Firstly I will apologise in advance for what I am sure will be a
> frequently repeated question... But here goes!

> What recommendations are there for an outdoor very light wind kite (0+
> km/h)? I've been searching for comments on the Flashlight and the Ozone
> and I guess it seems to come down to personal preference...

> I'm not really a trick flyer (at least not intentionally) but have a
> fair amount of experience with kiting. I currently have a 3.6m Peel,
> Pocket Peel, Windancer 1 2000, and two fairly high end stunt kites
> (locally made). I'm now looking at finding something for the lower end
> of the wind scale...

> Unfortunately being in Perth, Western Australia I will not have the
> chance of flying before I buy, so I'm relying on all you guy's and
> gal's for enough feedback to help make a more informed choice...

> That's the No Wind problem, now for the Too Much Wind problem... Can
> anyone recommend any quick release harness systems for power kiting. In
> Perth, it's not uncommon to get a pretty strong breeze (25-30+ km/h)
> most afternoons in summer, enough to pull me (110kg) around with my
> 3.6m Peel. Unfortunately with this sort of breeze, I can usually only
> fly for about 15-20 minutes before my arms are about twice their normal
> length (not to mention the pain in my wrists). A harness or something?
> is my only hope (with safety being a number one priority).

> Sorry for the long posting... Many thanks in advance and hope to hear
> from everyone out there!

> Take Care,
> Wayne

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


 
 
 

Help With No Wind & Too Much Wind?

Post by Brian » Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I have to agree with Jamie.  On no wind days I fly a Prism 3d.  On light
wind days I fly a Buena Vista Feather.  Most of my flying is on the
Feather.  Those kites have allowed me to advance and get many more hours
of flight time since where I live the winds are generally negligible.
My next kite will probably be the Prism Ozone, but you can't go wrong
with the Feather.



Quote:
> Depending on your price range, the Feather, the Wren, or if you have
the
> money for it, one of the best SUL's on the market is the AerZero by
PBSK
> (www.sportkite.com/azreview.html ).

> Jamey



> > Firstly I will apologise in advance for what I am sure will be a
> > frequently repeated question... But here goes!

> > What recommendations are there for an outdoor very light wind kite
(0+
> > km/h)? I've been searching for comments on the Flashlight and the
Ozone
> > and I guess it seems to come down to personal preference...

> > I'm not really a trick flyer (at least not intentionally) but have a
> > fair amount of experience with kiting. I currently have a 3.6m Peel,
> > Pocket Peel, Windancer 1 2000, and two fairly high end stunt kites
> > (locally made). I'm now looking at finding something for the lower
end
> > of the wind scale...

> > Unfortunately being in Perth, Western Australia I will not have the
> > chance of flying before I buy, so I'm relying on all you guy's and
> > gal's for enough feedback to help make a more informed choice...

> > That's the No Wind problem, now for the Too Much Wind problem... Can
> > anyone recommend any quick release harness systems for power kiting.
In
> > Perth, it's not uncommon to get a pretty strong breeze (25-30+ km/h)
> > most afternoons in summer, enough to pull me (110kg) around with my
> > 3.6m Peel. Unfortunately with this sort of breeze, I can usually
only
> > fly for about 15-20 minutes before my arms are about twice their
normal
> > length (not to mention the pain in my wrists). A harness or
something?
> > is my only hope (with safety being a number one priority).

> > Sorry for the long posting... Many thanks in advance and hope to
hear
> > from everyone out there!

> > Take Care,
> > Wayne

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
 
 
 

Help With No Wind & Too Much Wind?

Post by Ron » Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> Firstly I will apologise in advance for what I am sure will be a
> frequently repeated question... But here goes!

> What recommendations are there for an outdoor very light wind kite (0+
> km/h)? I've been searching for comments on the Flashlight and the Ozone
> and I guess it seems to come down to personal preference...

the Ozone is a superior performer, 99% of the people who have flown both
will confirm this.  It flies flatter and smoother and is more graceful. It
also pancakes out quicker and easier making 540's and pancake-to-fades much
easier. The Flashlight is a good UL kite if you're on a budget, but if you
don't mind the extra money.. the Ozone is the superior kite.
Both fly with the same effort and wind range. The differences are felt in
flight characteristics.
 
 
 

Help With No Wind & Too Much Wind?

Post by Ron » Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I own 2 Ozones and a Feather, Although I do like and recommend the Feather,
I prefer to fly the Ozone as it offers better trick performance. The Feather
how ever will fly easier (with less effort ) "indoors".  The Wren I
recommend for "indoors only" and is my top recommendation if learning to fly
indoors for the first time since it is the easiest kite to fly in in zero
wind.


Quote:
> I have to agree with Jamie.  On no wind days I fly a Prism 3d.  On light
> wind days I fly a Buena Vista Feather.  Most of my flying is on the
> Feather.  Those kites have allowed me to advance and get many more hours
> of flight time since where I live the winds are generally negligible.
> My next kite will probably be the Prism Ozone, but you can't go wrong
> with the Feather.



> > Depending on your price range, the Feather, the Wren, or if you have
> the
> > money for it, one of the best SUL's on the market is the AerZero by
> PBSK
> > (www.sportkite.com/azreview.html ).

> > Jamey



> > > Firstly I will apologise in advance for what I am sure will be a
> > > frequently repeated question... But here goes!

> > > What recommendations are there for an outdoor very light wind kite
> (0+
> > > km/h)? I've been searching for comments on the Flashlight and the
> Ozone
> > > and I guess it seems to come down to personal preference...

> > > I'm not really a trick flyer (at least not intentionally) but have a
> > > fair amount of experience with kiting. I currently have a 3.6m Peel,
> > > Pocket Peel, Windancer 1 2000, and two fairly high end stunt kites
> > > (locally made). I'm now looking at finding something for the lower
> end
> > > of the wind scale...

> > > Unfortunately being in Perth, Western Australia I will not have the
> > > chance of flying before I buy, so I'm relying on all you guy's and
> > > gal's for enough feedback to help make a more informed choice...

> > > That's the No Wind problem, now for the Too Much Wind problem... Can
> > > anyone recommend any quick release harness systems for power kiting.
> In
> > > Perth, it's not uncommon to get a pretty strong breeze (25-30+ km/h)
> > > most afternoons in summer, enough to pull me (110kg) around with my
> > > 3.6m Peel. Unfortunately with this sort of breeze, I can usually
> only
> > > fly for about 15-20 minutes before my arms are about twice their
> normal
> > > length (not to mention the pain in my wrists). A harness or
> something?
> > > is my only hope (with safety being a number one priority).

> > > Sorry for the long posting... Many thanks in advance and hope to
> hear
> > > from everyone out there!

> > > Take Care,
> > > Wayne

> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

 
 
 

Help With No Wind & Too Much Wind?

Post by WT » Sun, 20 Aug 2000 12:27:02

I'll basically echo Ron K.
Flashlight or Feather for lower budget light wind kites. Both do tricks but
rotate slow when trying to pancake nose away. Bringing a Feather out of a
fade requires altitude.

If you have the money, go Ozone or Pro Wren (not the Indoor Wren). These
kites are possibly the best all around low wind kites out there. Good
precision, great tricks, wide wind range (0-8mph realistically).

For high end kites, Vapor, and any one of PBSK super ultra lights, or ultra
lights. However I would save these for the discriminating flyer who knows
exactly what he wants.

WT


Quote:
> Firstly I will apologise in advance for what I am sure will be a
> frequently repeated question... But here goes!

> What recommendations are there for an outdoor very light wind kite (0+
> km/h)? I've been searching for comments on the Flashlight and the Ozone
> and I guess it seems to come down to personal preference...

> I'm not really a trick flyer (at least not intentionally) but have a
> fair amount of experience with kiting. I currently have a 3.6m Peel,
> Pocket Peel, Windancer 1 2000, and two fairly high end stunt kites
> (locally made). I'm now looking at finding something for the lower end
> of the wind scale...

> Unfortunately being in Perth, Western Australia I will not have the
> chance of flying before I buy, so I'm relying on all you guy's and
> gal's for enough feedback to help make a more informed choice...

> That's the No Wind problem, now for the Too Much Wind problem... Can
> anyone recommend any quick release harness systems for power kiting. In
> Perth, it's not uncommon to get a pretty strong breeze (25-30+ km/h)
> most afternoons in summer, enough to pull me (110kg) around with my
> 3.6m Peel. Unfortunately with this sort of breeze, I can usually only
> fly for about 15-20 minutes before my arms are about twice their normal
> length (not to mention the pain in my wrists). A harness or something?
> is my only hope (with safety being a number one priority).

> Sorry for the long posting... Many thanks in advance and hope to hear
> from everyone out there!

> Take Care,
> Wayne

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.