Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by s.. » Tue, 02 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Hi all,

I'd like to know if anyone can recommend a good beginners kite.  I have
a bit of experience flying cheap stunt kites (from beach shops) and
would like to go a little further.

I'm a bit worried that I'll buy something and crash it immediately so
I'd liek to get a kite that can withstand a bit of a bashing.

Something that stretches the arms a bit on a windy day would be pretty
cool - upto about fifty quid would be fine.

Thanks for the advice (please reply by email as well as to the group as
I don't check the newsgroups on a regular basis).

        Steve.

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Troy Gu » Tue, 02 Jun 1998 04:00:00

The HQ Jam Session is a great inexpensive
kite. Since the  kite is framed in .2300 pultruded
spars, parts are cheap. The Jam session does
all of the popular tricks with ease ( almost too easy). I'm sure you'll
like tis kite!

                          Troy Gunn


 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Walt » Tue, 02 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>The HQ Jam Session is a great inexpensive
>kite. Since the  kite is framed in .2300 pultruded
>spars, parts are cheap. The Jam session does
>all of the popular tricks with ease ( almost too easy). I'm sure you'll
>like tis kite!

>                          Troy Gunn

But the LE is one piece, or at least was. that makes it kinda tricky to replace
cuz most pultrude comes in 32.5" and you'll need something longer or replace
the LE's with 2 sticks and a ferrule.

Another really good beginners kite, (not really a beginners kite, but good
for beginner-?) is the Midi Sandpiper. It's pretty inexpensive, and well,
a great kite. Takes a pretty good beating, and is a really well rounded kite.

Hope that helps. I have no connection with anybody, I just like kites.

_Walter_

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Garry Bo » Tue, 02 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Ok Both the Jam Session and the Midi are nice kites unfortunately although
the pounds is strong at the moment guys, Its not that strong both these
kites are nearer 100 pounds than 50 pounds.

To be honest you are not going to get a Delta kite that achieves all you
want in the UK for 50 pounds. I would suggest two options. If you want a
delta and to stay within 50 pounds buy a kite called the Beetle. But also
buy some good dyneema/spectra line and handles to go with it. this should
come to less than 50 pounds.

If its power that you want then I suggest you get a 6ft flexi foil than will
cost about 60 pounds I think but the lines etc will push the cost to nearer
75-80.

To be really honest If you really think you will get into kites I would
suggest going for a more expensive kite like the two that have been
mentioned as once get to 100 pounds or so there is a lot larger choice of
good kites that will last you years.

Regards GaRRy Box
-------------------------------------------------------------
Gen Secretary The Midlands Kite Fliers

Or check out our Web site http://www.canleo.demon.co.uk/mkf.htm

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Ian Newha » Tue, 02 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>Hi all,

>I'd like to know if anyone can recommend a good beginners kite.  I have
>a bit of experience flying cheap stunt kites (from beach shops) and
>would like to go a little further.

>I'm a bit worried that I'll buy something and crash it immediately so
>I'd liek to get a kite that can withstand a bit of a bashing.

>Something that stretches the arms a bit on a windy day would be pretty
>cool - upto about fifty quid would be fine.

To be honest for less than 50 UKP you're not going to find too much
choice except for some dreadful so called beginner kites, they're often
small and heavy which means they're twitchy and need a lot of wind to
fly and are in fact more difficult to fly than a proper kite.

However that said I would recommend you have a look at Free Spirit
Kites.
If as you say you want your arms stretched, some of their soft foils (no
frame to break) are very reasonably priced: Sabrefoil (2m) 40 UKP and
certainly a BBV (3m) will give your arms a good stretch but that's 70
UKP.

They have a web site at http://www.fsk.enta.net/index.html or you can e-

OTOH if you would like a 'framed' kite FSK's dancer is good value at
45UKP.

Remember that you'll need to add the cost of some lines, better kites
don't include them.

Disclaimer - I know Dave Salmon through the MKF.


                  http://www.helen.demon.co.uk

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Garry Bo » Tue, 02 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>To be honest for less than 50 UKP you're not going to find too much
>choice except for some dreadful so called beginner kites, they're often
>small and heavy which means they're twitchy and need a lot of wind to
>fly and are in fact more difficult to fly than a proper kite.

>However that said I would recommend you have a look at Free Spirit
>Kites.

Damn Dave is going to kill me for not suggesting his kites. I second this
suggestion. Having said that I also know Dave through the MKF and so my be
considered biased.

Regards GaRRy Box
-------------------------------------------------------------
Gen Secretary The Midlands Kite Fliers

Or check out our Web site http://www.canleo.demon.co.uk/mkf.htm

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Andy Wardl » Wed, 03 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>Something that stretches the arms a bit on a windy day would be pretty
>cool - upto about fifty quid would be fine.

Have a look at the cheaper Spirit of Air Kites.  They start at around #35
and although you'll only get a 4 or 5 footer for that price, they're
generally pretty well made and do actually fly, unlike a lot of the cheap
toss that's out there.  The range goes all the way up to about 200 quid and
although we could all stand around and argue for hours about who makes the
best high end kites, I think most people would agree that the Spirit of Air
kites in the lower range are among the best.

But perhaps the best thing you can do is drop Roy Reed an email.  He's
got a Flexifoil Erazor for sale for 40 quid and it's a great beginner/
intermediate kite.  

Hang on.  Here's the message:

Quote:

>Newsgroups: rec.kites
>Subject: Kites for sale
>Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:47:12 +0100

>I've got a Flexifoil Erazor going for #40UK and an Eolo-Gayla Tango for
>#50.

>The Erazor is Andy Preston designed for beginners to intermediate level,
>6ft span, carrington sail, static bridle, trickable, wind range 5-30mph,
>was #59 new.

>The Tango is a freestyle kite for intermediate to expert, 6ft span,
>Icarex sail, dynamic bridle, very trickable, wind range 5-25mph, was
>#110 new.

>I'll be at Basingstoke Kite fest next weekend if anyone want to test
>fly.

>Roy Reed

I'd go for the Erazor if he's still got it.  It's very strong, will take
a really high wind (and give you that hard pull you wanted) but it's also
versatile enough that you won't grow out of it too soon.

Hope that helps.

A

--


 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Nick Wilso » Wed, 03 Jun 1998 04:00:00

<people wrote stuff, it was ***ly snipped>

Quote:
>>Something that stretches the arms a bit on a windy day would be
pretty
>>cool - upto about fifty quid would be fine.

having just started myself, i really like the Select One by Active
People. is tolerant of abuse by beginners, flys in 1-10 mph, tricks
nicely, and if you are quick about it you can fly it indoors. all
this for only $120 canadian, which works out to what, 60UKp ? i was
talking to some older kite flyers in my area and one was saying his
select one is the only 2 line he flies anymore out of the 12 or so
he has. if there is anymore wind than the select one can take, its
strong enough to buggy ;)
hope this helps.
Nick

--
"I think therefore I am.....I think..." A. C. Clarke
 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Roger Nola » Thu, 04 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> To be really honest If you really think you will get into kites I would
> suggest going for a more expensive kite like the two that have been
> mentioned as once get to 100 pounds or so there is a lot larger choice of
> good kites that will last you years.

Or, if you're not bothered by having the bang up to date latest version
of a given kite, you should hunt around and get one of last year's
models. Tradewinds Kites in Reading has (or had) a very good bargain box
filled with ex display and ex demo Benson and Prism kites.  The
Highwaymen regularly feature similar bargains.

Failing that, Chris Matheson may still have some of last year's
Sandpipers, Midis and Azizas.

See <http://www.highwaymen.demon.co.uk>,
<http://ds.dial.pipex.com/chris.matheson/sale.html>
or phone Tradewinds on 0118 956 8848

I would also echo everyone else's sentiments in that if you only spend
50 you'll either be put off and never fly a kite again _or_ you'll be
back to spend 100 after about a month.

Cheers
rog

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Pierce Nichol » Tue, 09 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> If its power that you want then I suggest you get a 6ft flexi foil than will
> cost about 60 pounds I think but the lines etc will push the cost to nearer

        The Flexifoil is also pretty hard to break. I'm learning to fly a six
foot one, and I usually manage to run it into the ground at high speed
at least once per session, both with heavy wind and light wind spars. It
hasn't appeared to damage the kite at all.

        -p

--
Bring back the Global Killfile!

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Ian Jon » Sat, 13 Jun 1998 04:00:00



Quote:

>>Something that stretches the arms a bit on a windy day would be pretty
>>cool - upto about fifty quid would be fine.

>Have a look at the cheaper Spirit of Air Kites.  They start at around #35
>and although you'll only get a 4 or 5 footer for that price, they're
>generally pretty well made and do actually fly, unlike a lot of the cheap
>toss that's out there.  <snip>

I'll second that. But they actually start at 20. This is the price of
the new Rapier complete with a set of naff lines and handles. It's a
tiny kite, not easy to fly but almost indestructable and it tricks and
dead launches. I tried one and rushed along to my local shop and
bought on even though I've got lots of other kites. Needs 8m.p.h +
winds before its any fun though.

Back to the point. You don't have to spend huge sums to get a good
kite but however much you spend think carefully about what you want.
Do you want a trick kite, power kite, precision? What is the typical
wind speed in your area? There is no kite which is perfect for
everything so if you are only going to buy one kite, especially if
your budget is limited then think about what you want from it.

In general smaller, cheaper, stunt kites need more wind and are
usually aimed at beginners so are not really designed for tricks or
precision. The price usually includes lines and handles (not very good
ones though)

Larger more expensive kites tend to be more specialised and can
usually be flown in lighter winds (greater sail area, higher quality
lighter spars etc.). The price doesn't usually include lines & handles
so you have to take that into account.

Kites are like any other purchase. In general the more you pay the
more you get. But there are plenty of good kites in your price
bracket, e.g. Spirit of the Air Scimitar (around 45).

Lastly if you're still not sure, find out where your nearest club
flies and go along and talk to the people there. Kitefliers are
usually a pretty friendly bunch and happy to help a begginer.
Or visit A Kite festival it's the time of year for them.

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by DJG » Sun, 14 Jun 1998 04:00:00

if u dont care about the price  the jam session is a great kite for a bigginer
to compitation but the price is aboat $120.

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Bob Wal » Sun, 14 Jun 1998 04:00:00



<>if u dont care about the price  the jam session is a great kite for a bigginer
<>to compitation but the price is aboat $120.
<>
<>
<>I'll second that recommendation. It's a great kite for a beginner. Then when you ready for a more advanced kite you'll already have it. It flys great in low wind.

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by G Engva » Mon, 15 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>Unfortunately in the kiting world you really do get what you pay for,<BR>
>and for 50 quid you going to get rubbish.

S'not true. S'not. Please stop spreading these ugly rumors.

A) You don't get what you pay for. There is some very expensive
junk out there.
B) Not all kites that are 50 quid and less are rubbish.
Dyna Kite & the Beetle come to mind....

good heavens;
gary engvall

Aero ergo sum. I fly, therefore, I am.

 
 
 

Can anyone recomend a good beginners kite ?

Post by Graham Langhorn » Tue, 16 Jun 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
>Hi all,

>I'd like to know if anyone can recommend a good beginners kite.  I have
>a bit of experience flying cheap stunt kites (from beach shops) and
>would like to go a little further.

>I'm a bit worried that I'll buy something and crash it immediately so
>I'd liek to get a kite that can withstand a bit of a bashing.

>Something that stretches the arms a bit on a windy day would be pretty
>cool - upto about fifty quid would be fine.

Have a look at the kites made by Mullins , Spirit of Air and Flexifoil.
They all do very nice kites around the 50 /60 mark .Look out for
Javalin from Spirit of Air 59.00 192cm span incl. lines
Sprint from Mullins 55.99 plus lines
Erazor from Flexifiol 59.95 plus lines

For something with pull try the Flexifiol hotshot 4' at 59.90 incl.
lines or the Flexifoil Stacker 6' at 75.00 incl. lines
all these kites fly very well.
--
Graham Langhorne