Sleeving Spectra again!

Sleeving Spectra again!

Post by JTav » Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:49:01


Isn't there a kind of line that is part spectra and part dacron that
does
not require sleeving?

Why would you want dacron line in your spectra? This would increase
line diameter and increase stretch. All the things you don"t want in
a good line set!  I find it amazing that people are afraid not to
sleeve spectra..  Try it and I'm sure you will like it.

Tips to help with UNSLEEVED spectra:
I use at least three overhand knots to prevent the line from slipping
out of its knot:
Put a very small "pull loop" at the line to help untie the spectra
from your kite.
If the line gets worn at the end, cut and re-tie. You lose about 4
inches.
Fly your kite while the others are busy sleeving!!!!!!!

Lets here from you closet Non-Sleevers.


 
 
 

Sleeving Spectra again!

Post by Brian Johns » Tue, 14 Jun 1994 01:12:20

Quote:

>Why would you want dacron line in your spectra? This would increase
>line diameter and increase stretch. All the things you don"t want in

  It decreases the chance your line will be cut by another line or
  ground snags by several percent.

Quote:
>a good line set!  I find it amazing that people are afraid not to
>sleeve spectra..  Try it and I'm sure you will like it.

  I always sleeve my 50# & 80# spectra, as it makes it easier to undo the
  knots.  After a couple of hours pulling on line the size of dental
  floss, it would be difficult to pick off a larkshead without the
  sleeving.
--
"Abraham Lincoln Materialized In My Hot Tub And Demanded A Mechanical Fish"
 Admits Mick Jagger
--


 
 
 

Sleeving Spectra again!

Post by Jeffrey C. Bur » Tue, 14 Jun 1994 13:13:50

Quote:

>  I always sleeve my 50# & 80# spectra, as it makes it easier to undo the
>  knots.  After a couple of hours pulling on line the size of dental
>  floss, it would be difficult to pick off a larkshead without the
>  sleeving.

Ah, but this is why you should be using a "Red Braswell knot."  This is an
addition to the normal method of larksheading a loop onto your attachment
point.  Tie a small loop at end of your large loop with an overhand knot so
you have a 1/4" or so "tab" at the end of your loop.  When your loop is
larksheaded onto your kite, you can just pull on this tab to loosen the
larkshead and remove the line.  Makes life easier, even with sleeved lines.

My two cents on the sleeving issue:  I don't know whether or knot (heh)
it's necessary.  I've been sleeving and no-knotting for years 'n years.  I
agree with Simo that it's a pleasant past time and not a horrible
task...except for when your line breaks and you have to bother resleeving
just to launch your kite.

I've currently got two sets of unsleeved line.  One is my indoor set, which
is 50# braided Spectra.  It never really sees much pressure on the lines
(and it's only been used a few times).  The other set is a set of rather
ancient 80# spectra.  Last time it broke (Monday at Wildwood) I didn't both
resleeving the broken end; I just tied both lines shorter.  So far, the
lines are holding up _very_ well; I've flown my 3/4 Tracer on 'em in winds
gusting up to maybe 20 with no trouble.  I'll be curious to see if it
breaks anywhere near the knot.

Jeff
--
|Jeffrey C. Burka     | "Everything is still with a fear of never coming out |
|Suffering Bad Grammar|  Never following through / Never ever finishing      |


 
 
 

Sleeving Spectra again!

Post by Kytem » Tue, 14 Jun 1994 15:04:03


writes:

<< Isn't there a kind of line that is part spectra and part dacron
that
does not require sleeving? >>

Yep.  It's called Spectron, which at one time was going to be
marketed by US Line.  I got some from them to test.  I like it a
lot--worry free, and not too much bigger in diameter than pure
spectra, and not objectionably stretchier (for a non-competitive
flier, anyway).  Haven't ever broken it (80 lb or 150 lb) either.
Don't know if they ever actually brought it to market.

I haven't sleeved my Spectra since the first pair years ago.  No
problem.

Brooks Leffler