Quad kites and line twist

Quad kites and line twist

Post by Jim Karl » Wed, 31 Oct 2001 05:26:11


Howdy Folks

Last week, I was telling you about my first experience with Quad-line.
 One thing puzzles me though (and the guy that was teaching me).  Why
is it that the lines twist without obvious reason?  I'm not talking
left bar over right bar, that would just be normal from loops and
such.  I'm talking top line over brake.  I don't think my wrist turns
360 degrees, and if it did, I'd be a bit worried.  Anybody have any
ideas on this?  Feel free to let me know if I completely lost you in
my description.

Jim Karlin
Edgewater, CO, USA

 
 
 

Quad kites and line twist

Post by Bill Painte » Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:00:11

Jim-
  Unless the lines were twisted when you first started
flying, the only whay the twists could come about is by the
kite twisting inside itself.  This has happened with my NPW
a couple of times.  After landing or crashing on its nose,
my pulling the brakes back and the wind picking the bottom
side up, flipping it over, having it fill full of air and
take off again..
  Are you flying a soft kite?

Bill in Phoenix.

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Quad kites and line twist

Post by RG » Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:50:20

I find this happens if I put my handles down for any
reason, like to right the kite from an unrecoverable
position, put on gloves, blow my nose, etc.  Sometimes you
just pick the handles up in a way that unintentionally puts
a twist in one side or the other.

The fun and challenging part is to try to untwist them as
you fly the kite...

-Ron G.

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Quad kites and line twist

Post by Jim Karl » Thu, 01 Nov 2001 00:26:48

Quote:

> Jim-
>   Unless the lines were twisted when you first started
> flying, the only whay the twists could come about is by the
> kite twisting inside itself.  This has happened with my NPW
> a couple of times.  After landing or crashing on its nose,
> my pulling the brakes back and the wind picking the bottom
> side up, flipping it over, having it fill full of air and
> take off again..
>   Are you flying a soft kite?

Hi Bill

We were flying a homemade Rev when we discussed it.  Each time we
launched, we made sure that no lines were crossed whatsoever.  While
twist doesn't matter much on a dual line (as long as you're using nice
slick spectra), I've found that any twist in a quad can be detrimental
to control.  We made sure to straighten out the lines each time.  I
don't remember flipping the kite forward or backward.  Wind was flaky
at best that day, so basically the kite was launching and landing all
in 1 motion (partly me, partly the gusts going from about 8 mph to 0
mph).  It kinda looked like a grasshopper....jumping.  I noticed the
same twist on the blade that I flew shortly, but I chalked that up to
it flipping over since I did crash it several times and was working on
getting the knack of upside-down launching.  The rev was the one that
was boggling me.  My "instructor" also had no clue why they did it.

 
 
 

Quad kites and line twist

Post by James Hods » Fri, 02 Nov 2001 04:44:42


Quote:
>We were flying a homemade Rev when we discussed it.  Each time we
>launched, we made sure that no lines were crossed whatsoever.

Jim

I'm certainly no expert with 4 liners but I have flown a small soft
quad called a Twister on many occasions. See
<http://SportToday.org/;

Quite often, just after launch, especially in low winds, the brake and
power lines on one or both sides appear to be twisted when, in fact,
they're not. What happens is that the loose brake line can get wrapped
around the more taut power line giving the twisted appearance. A few
*** flicks of the wrist (I can feel a song coming on!) usually
sorts everything out.

If the lines on one side actually are twisted and not just looped over
each other it's reasonably simple to quickly twist the handle around
through 360 without too much trouble while the kite is still airborn.

I've seen the same thing happen to those brave and possibly quite mad
souls that take their lives in their hands and fly large power kites.

Regards
James
--
"Watch the kite, not where you're going!"