Hello again Bill.......how do I deal with stupid?
Hmm...I found out that I can't defeat it, that's for sure!
At our local kite festival we surround three flying areas in yellow rope, or
flourescent orange tape and have warning signs. I am amazed how many
people don't respect these restricted areas and just duck under the lines
and cross the field. Even with fast moving kites, buggies and traction
kites in clear sight. I have realized that for some people these markers
are "guidelines", and they choose to obey them or not. These folks just
weren't raised right! You learn to respect other peoples space in
I just keep an eye out for these people and park my kite overhead or slacken
my lines if I am on the ground. Let them take 15 seconds to pass, shake
your head a few times, and resume your fun. My inner wish is that these
people get removed from the gene pool before they have a chance to procreate
:-) (it helps keep me sane)
As for people crossing into an area that isn't rope/taped off and does not
have warning signs.....there is no way to stop that. For many people they
don't make the connection between the colourful fast kite and the flier.
They don't realize that there is someone connected by taught line to the eye
My main problem locally is that I sometimes kite at a big park that has a
section reserved for dogs to run free. I don't kite in that area, but most
dog owners let their dogs run free in the ENTIRE park. The owners think it
is amusing to watch their dogs chase my kites or charge at me. If things
get too close for comfort I yell for them to control their pet.
p.s. Got new linesets on both my WD3 kites yesterday, with three kids
helping and a football field to mark off the length, it went very quickly.
(200lb. x 150 ft) and (150lb. x 105 ft)
>> Who owns the beach where you fly? Typically what is the main activity
>> goes on at the beach on a nice sunny day (why are people there)? Is a
>> kite a
>> dangerous instrument?
>> As a kite flyer you have the _responsibility_ to make sure _you_ provide
>> safe environment. You are the one who is creating the hazard and the
>> activity on the beach. That is the bottom line and one that should always
>> Do you think those people thought to themselves, "I've got nothing better
>> then to walk under that kite and try to get hit"? Of course not. Most of
>> time people are just walking on the beach minding their own business and
>> t don't realize that someone is flying a kite at 20mph on super thin line
>> very close to the ground.
>> As kite fliers we all have a _duty_ to make sure everyone around us is
>> Those tourist are the ones who help pay to keep the beach open to the
>> and clean. They are also the people that the city listens to _VERY_
>> intently. They generate millions of dollars in revenue for the city and
>> surrounding businesses. If they start complaining you know who is on the
>> loosing end of that battle.
>> You mention having "bright Dyneema lines" out and wondering why people
>> see them. But then you also mention that the sand is "pristine white". So
>> have super thin white line with pristine white sand as a background. On
>> of that, keep in mind that your usually aware of the lines and looking
>> a long string from the handles to the kite. When people walk by they only
>> have a short 4' section of this super thin, white line in front of them.
>> Should anyone expect a trip line on the beach? If your not looking for a
>> Dyneema line, you're not going to see it.
>> Before I _even get ready to pick up my lines_ and launch, I look around
>> see if anyone is approaching. If so, I simply wait the 20 or 30 seconds
>> needed for them to walk on by. I can the pick up my lines and start
>> Problem solved. The person you complain of must have been walking in the
>> direction of your lines when you picked up your lines. Why not simply lay
>> them back down again as she approches, let her walk over, and then pick
>> back up again? Frankly, I do this all the time and get a kick out of it
>> it's a little funny to know that they had _no idea_ those lines were
>> there. They just keep walking.
>> There have been many times when I've had a single line kite come down or
>> walking it down when people are around. As I'm the one creating the
>> hazard I
>> pay particular attention to what _everyone_ around is doing. I cannot
>> the number of times people walk toward the line that is only a few feet
>> the ground. When I see them get 20' away or so, I simply lower that
>> of the line to the ground. Typically they walk right over it without even
>> noticing.Sometimes they see the line at the last moment and wonder if
>> should walk all the way around. I point out that it's perfectly fine to
>> over the lines and that I hope they are having a great day. These are the
>> same people who might just go out and buy a kite.
>> Can you tell I'm a little concerned at your post and thoughts? You seem
>> be saying that people at the beach should respect that what you are doing
>> dangerous and that _they_ should know better and get away from you. It's
>> actually 100% the other way around. If one kite flyer gets kite flying
>> banned in an area, _no one_ can fly there at all. As flyer we have a
>> responsibility to make sure this does not happen.
> Somehow you neglected to read my line where I stated that we've ALL read
> about kite safety and we ALL heed the suggestions. So that about covers
> ALL the reiterated facts you place in your response to me. I'm not
> ignorant of kite safety. I also mentioned I was in a place at the north
> end of a beach with several other kite fliers and at least 10 airborn
> kites. So suggesting that people didn't realize they were amongst kite
> fliers and kites is ludicrous. Hell, one of the power sleds was nearly 15
> feet across...kinda hard to miss.
> Clearwater Beach is known for it's sugar white sands. I fly with bright
> green Dyneema lines. At the time the woman walked into the lines she had
> either ignored at least four polite verbal warnings or was completely
> oblivious. The lines were thigh high to her when she hit them, as the kite
> was poised to lift. I'd contend that allowing anyone to walk OVER my
> lines, dropped or not, is an accident waiting to happen should the kite
> self launch. Better to have my control lines in hand for any eventuality.
> Her intent seemed to be to take the short route through a
> number of kites and kite fliers...fliers be damned! In short, I'm well
> aware of my responsibilities as a flier..it should be common sense and
> incumbent upon passersby to use a modicum of caution also. I wouldn't
> think of traipsing onto a flying field used by radio controlled aircraft,
> would you?
> Lastly, if you've followed the thread on this, you'll note I mentioned my
> awareness of kiters losing their flying grounds due to incidents just like
> this one, and my mention of how much louder tourist dollars speak in cases
> like this...so I'm well ahead of you here.