weekly fax posting.

weekly fax posting.

Post by BARRETT, MICHAEL BRU » Wed, 26 Feb 1992 21:23:00

*****I just reviewed this and realised that I don't actually have
*****the address for Catch the Wind.  Could someone send it to me?
*****Thanks.  Mike.

This is the faq (Frequently Asked Question) list for rec.kites.
It is a compilation of information that can be very useful to new
kiters, and it is a good way to become familiar with some of the
topics discussed in rec.kites (r.k).
For those who are very new to kiting, Section 4:  First Kites
will be of interest.  It tells which classes of kites are best
for new flyers, and gives some of their characteristics.

If you have an addition or correction, send it to me at one of
the following addresses:
     Internet:

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Section 1:  Questions.

1)  Where can I get a good kite?
 A) See the addresses section, where many kite stores and mail
     order companies are listed.

2) How does one get started in competitions?  Where do I find
     rules and how do I learn the figures?  How does one find out
     the locations?
 A) Write to the American Kiteflyers Association (AKA) or a local
     club.  The AKA/STACK rules book lists the official rules for
     competitions and gives many standard figures for precision
     flying.
        American Kiteflyers Association
        1559 Rockeville Pike
        Rockeville, MD 20852

3) What is a kite?
 A) A kite is a wind-powered, tethered flying object/device.
     They come in an incredible variety of shapes, colors, and
     sizes.  The main division between kites has to do with the
     number of lines, with single and dual lines being to most
     common, and quad line kites gaining popularity.

Section 2: Kite Books.

When it was available, I have included publisher and author info,
otherwise, just the titles are given.

Margaret Greger, "Kites for Everyone." Kite designs.
Mark Cotrell, "The Kite Store Book of Kites."
David Gomberg, edt, "Stunt Kites!" A complete flight manual for dual line
                kites.

Section 3: Materials.

Sail Material:
Ripstop Nylon:  This is the most common material used for stunt
     kites as well as most single line kites.  There are several
     problems when working with ripstop, including the difficulty
     of cutting it accurately and sewing it.  The advantages are
     its strength and resistance to tearing.  The best way to cut
     ripstop is with a "heat knife."
Tyvek:  This is cheaper than ripstop, won't tear, and can be
     painted.  Tyvek can also be glued and taped easily, unlike
     ripstop.
There are many other synthetics, I have included those that I am most
familiar with.  If someone out there feels that another material should
be added, send me some details about it (i.e. price, strength, how hard
is it to work with, etc).
Garbage bags, construction paper, paper bags, etc.:  Not very
     strong, but cheap and readily available.

Spar Material:
Fiberglass:  Flexible, fairly strong, moderately expensive.
Poly-carbon Fiber:  This material is also known as graphite. Stiffer,
      stronger, more expensive, but generally preferred.
Alumin:  Between fiberglass and graphite for flexibility, but it tends to
      be very expensive.  It is far stronger than either fiberglass or
      graphite.
Dowels:  A good material for beginners.
Arrow shafts:  These can be found almost anywhere and come in a wide range
      of materials, including wood, graphite, fiberglass, boron, alumin,
      and just about anything else you can think of.
Composite shafts:  If the spars listed don't have the combination of flexi-
      bility and strength that a kite requires, combinations of materials
      can be purchased.  However, these tend to be very expensive.

Line Material:
Kevlar, Spectra, Mylar:  The basic cores of most stunt kite lines.
     These are extremely strong fibers that can vary in breaking
     strength from 75-250lb.
Dacron:  Another polymer, which is often used to sheath the core
     lines to prevent cutting (most of them are very rough).
Cotton:  Not very strong, but light weight and perfect for small
     kites.
Fishing line:  Small kites, a single monofilament line will often
     suffice, and it is readily available in a great variety of
     weights.  For larger kites, monofilaments can be braided into
     stronger lines.  However, this is not suggested for stunt kites,
     because it allows too much stretch for accurate control.

Section 4:  First kites.
    The following section was written by Jeffrey Burka,  I am
indebted to him for writing a section that I had no idea how
to even begin.
        The easiest to learn beginners kite is a diamond
        (Powell/trlby/dynakite,etc) One of the biggest
        advantages to a single diamond is the ease with
        which you can re-launch after a crash.  Kiting
        can become very frustrating when you have to keep
        walking 150' to set up a kite.  These kites also
        verge on indestructible.

        3/4 deltas (Team/Spin-off/Extreme/El Nino/Stinger750
        /Wizard, etc) might be good 2nd kites, but their
        increased speed, both forward and turning, make them
        harder to learn on (though I certainly know people who
        have learned on them).  Their lower pricing (usually
        between $75 and $130) makes them attractive to beginners
        who aren't willing to dump a lot of money into a new
        hobby, but this doesn't necessarily mean they're good
        kites for beginners.  

        Full-sized deltas (Spin-Off/Hawaiian Team/Super Sky
        Dart/Slingshot, etc) are a fairly good place to start,
        though the price can be inhibiting to a beginner.  However,
        there are plenty of good full-sized kites that are good
        for learning on; slower air speeds, a nice tendency to
        never stall, and so on.  

        With all of these kites, as Marty Sasaki says, it's
        probably best to stay away from graphite-framed kites
        at first, as they are easier to break.  

        |Jeffrey C. Burka                |

Section 5:  Addresses.
**United States**
Into the Wind
1408 Pearl Street
Boulder, CO  80302

Go Fly a Kite
P.O. Box AA
East Haddam, CT  06423

Peter Powell Kites, Inc.
1040 N.E. 43 Court
Fort Lauderdale, FL  33334

Catch the Wind
Oregon
(Sorry, I don't have the address on hand)

Flying Things
130 S.E. Highway 101
Lincoln City, OR  97367

Windborne Kites
585 Cannery Row
Monterey, CA  93940

Balloon Factory & Kites
19306 E. Windrose Drive
Rowland Heights, CA  91748

High Fly Kite Company
P.O. Box 2146
Haddonfield, NJ  08033

Color The Sky
221-Q1 Yoho Drive
Anoka, MN  55303

Wind Walker Kites
P.O. Box 515
Clute, TX  77531-0515

Revolution Kites
3089C Clairemont Drive
Suite #171
San Diego, CA  92117

Skyward Kite Manufacturing
7384 N.W. 34th Street
Lauderhill, FL  33319

Keely's Kites
240 Commercial Street
Provincetown, MA  02657

Trlby Products Incorporated
65 New Litchfield Street
Torrington, CT  06790

Mackinaw Kite Company
116 Washington Street
Grand Haven, MI  49417

International Connections
835 Weldon Road
Santa Barbara, CA  93109

Hyperkites
1819 Fifth Avenue
San Diego, CA  92101

Spectra Star
P.O. Box 3099
13215 Louvre Street
Pacoima, CA  91333-3099

NewTech Sports
7208 McNeil Drive
Suite 207
Austin, TX  78729

The Kite Loft
P.O. Box 551
Ocean City, MD  21842

Fly By Night Kite Company
294 Court Street / Route 3A
No. Plymouth, MA  02360

Hang-Em High Fabrics
1420 Yale Avenue
Richmond, VA  23224

Nevada Kite Company
947 North Pecos Road
Las Vegas, NV  89101

The Kite Store
P.O. Box 481632
Denver, CO  80217

Kitestuff
51 Layle Lane
Doylestown, PA  18901

Top of the Line Kites
3015 St. Charles Pl.
San Diego, CA  92110

Gasworks Park Kite Shoppe
3333 Wallingford North
Seattle, WA  98103

Adventures
4 Hemlock Trail
Sandy Hook, CT 06482
(203) 426-9786
Ray & Lynn Lucas

Kites - The Air Apparent
Trolley Square
Salt Lake City, Utah  84102
(801) 531-7434

Kitty Hawk Kites
PO Box 1839
3933-N S. Croatan Highway
Nags Head, NC 27959
1-800-334-4777

**Australia**
Highly Strung Kites Pty Ltd
51 Glenhuntly Road
Elwood
Victoria  3184
Australia
Phone: +61 3 531 3630

**United Kingdom**
The Kite Store
Neal Street
Covent Garden
London
England
Phone: 071 836 1666

Malvern Kites
St Annes Road
Malvern
England
WR14 4PZ
Phone: 0684 565504

Wind Things
11 Cowgatehead
Edinburgh EH1
+44 31 220 6336

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discussions of kites and kiting. The discussion will deal with
any and
all aspects of kiting with no limitations as to specific types of
kites. In general, possible lines of discussion could be about:

   1)Plans and ideas as to how to build kites.

   2)Information as to the best places to purchase materials.

   3)Tips on flying different kites, and their pro's and con's.

   4)Ratings of commercially available kites.

   5)Safety and kite flying laws in effect.

   6)Anything else to do with kites...

    This newsgroup will be of interest to anyone who is
interested in kites and kiting, no matter how serious they are
about it. The group is not to be limited to those who are already
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