71,8 m2 kite arch flown in Cape Town, South Africa

71,8 m2 kite arch flown in Cape Town, South Africa

Post by Richard Loydel » Tue, 02 May 2000 04:00:00


Hi all

Richard and Jacqui Loydell of Kites for Africa, assisted by Andrew Wheeler, flew their 359 kite (71,8 m2) kite arch, which is apparently a world record, on Saturday 29 April 2000 at the International Kite Festival at Zandvlei, Cape Town, South Africa.  Due  to fluky wind conditions (irregular 90 to 120 wind shifts and speeds from 0 to 20km/h), the arch flew for about 40 minutes during the late afternoon and soon thereafter, a decision was taken to recover the arch before the wind created any more havoc!  The flight was witnessed by all kiters (Ann and Chris Harris, et al), a large public gathering and recorded by national television and local press photographers.

The day started off like all kite festivals in South Africa - too little or too much wind!!   Anyway, a fluky wind picked up in the late morning and soon everyone was in the air having fun.  We then decided to give the arch a go and had over half of it launched and about 160 m of kites to go when the wind suddenly backed 180 then dropped to nothing and the whole lot crashed amongst the trees, food stalls etc - what a mess :-((  .   We then packed it up and decided to try again later in the day.

Over lunch, a schools' kite arch competition (about 20 schools with their own homemade arches) was judged and by the looks of some of the kites, we have a lot of talented youngsters here in SA.  The winds remained fairly steady in strength but not direction during the afternoon but despite this a great time was being had by all.

Later that afternoon we had another go and lady luck smiled on us this time, but not for long.  The wind remained steady in strength and direction and the arch flew beautifully.  The area was a bit small and part of it was flying over the neighbouring houses which gave me even more grey hairs.  At one stage part of the arch snagged on a chimney but thanks to Roger Duffets's quick reaction a possible disaster was averted - thanks Roger!!   We got the arch down just in time and the last 40 kites or so landed in the water when the wind dropped to zero!  Phew.  Thanks to all who helped with the recovery and stowage of the arch.

Some details of the arch:
  a.. Made by myself (Richard) with no help over a period of several months (gave up counting after 3 months).
  b.. An average of seven different coloured panels per kite.  Various geometric designs.  Some kites appliqued as well.
  c.. 431 m of 320 kg spectra line with weak links built in at various points.
  d.. Each kite is diamond shaped and 0,2 m2 in area; double hemmed on all edges; with dacron spar pockets and framed with a 3mm glass fibre longeron.  Each kite has a 2,4 m long coloured polyester taffeta ribbon tail.
  e.. about 18 km of polyester thread was used and the arch was sewn on an Empisal 328B sewmaster domestic machine (my favourite and first domestic machine).
  f.. I could have flown a further 58 kites branded with the words "Kites for Africa" (14 kites) on a section of this arch, making a total of 417 kites (83,4 m2).  I was prevented from doing it by the prohibitive "second tier sponsorship fee" (R20 000 about $ 3100) I would have had to pay to fly a "branded" kite.  Unfortunately the sponsors of the festival were IMHO rather short sighted and were not interested in "sponsoring" my arch (I just wanted to recoup my expenditure).  They could have auctioned it that evening at the kite auction to raise funds for the Cape Mental Health Society.  Rather short sighted - sigh!
I will be launching our web site within the next few weeks (not to be missed) and all things being equal, improving on the arch record in the forseeable future!

Tight lines, must fly   :-))
Richard and Jacqui Loydell  

    "Made for Africa, by Africa"                    
      ***** Kites for Africa*****
              Simon's Town    
              South Africa            
Tel: +27-21-7862539
     : +27-83-7263308




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71,8 m2 kite arch flown in Cape Town, South Africa

Post by Richard T Dutto » Tue, 02 May 2000 04:00:00

Sorry guys I wittnessed a 2000 kite arch at the Niagara Falls festival in '92. The Japanese put up a 2000 arch of small eddy kites over the Niagara Gorge. So unless there is some criteria that eliminates this arch as a valid arch then I am afraid you cannot claim a world record. But it seems like it was a worthy attempt and I am sure it was a very spectacular sight.
If you want to see a picture of the Japanese arch go to http://fly.to/megsworld click on Photo Gallery and then on Timeless Images.
Richard Dutton


  Hi all

  Richard and Jacqui Loydell of Kites for Africa, assisted by Andrew Wheeler, flew their 359 kite (71,8 m2) kite arch, which is apparently a world record, on Saturday 29 April 2000 at the International Kite Festival at Zandvlei, Cape Town, South Africa.  Due  to fluky wind conditions (irregular 90 to 120 wind shifts and speeds from 0 to 20km/h), the arch flew for about 40 minutes during the late afternoon and soon thereafter, a decision was taken to recover the arch before the wind created any more havoc!  The flight was witnessed by all kiters (Ann and Chris Harris, et al), a large public gathering and recorded by national television and local press photographers.

  The day started off like all kite festivals in South Africa - too little or too much wind!!   Anyway, a fluky wind picked up in the late morning and soon everyone was in the air having fun.  We then decided to give the arch a go and had over half of it launched and about 160 m of kites to go when the wind suddenly backed 180 then dropped to nothing and the whole lot crashed amongst the trees, food stalls etc - what a mess :-((  .   We then packed it up and decided to try again later in the day.

  Over lunch, a schools' kite arch competition (about 20 schools with their own homemade arches) was judged and by the looks of some of the kites, we have a lot of talented youngsters here in SA.  The winds remained fairly steady in strength but not direction during the afternoon but despite this a great time was being had by all.

  Later that afternoon we had another go and lady luck smiled on us this time, but not for long.  The wind remained steady in strength and direction and the arch flew beautifully.  The area was a bit small and part of it was flying over the neighbouring houses which gave me even more grey hairs.  At one stage part of the arch snagged on a chimney but thanks to Roger Duffets's quick reaction a possible disaster was averted - thanks Roger!!   We got the arch down just in time and the last 40 kites or so landed in the water when the wind dropped to zero!  Phew.  Thanks to all who helped with the recovery and stowage of the arch.

  Some details of the arch:
    a.. Made by myself (Richard) with no help over a period of several months (gave up counting after 3 months).
    b.. An average of seven different coloured panels per kite.  Various geometric designs.  Some kites appliqued as well.
    c.. 431 m of 320 kg spectra line with weak links built in at various points.
    d.. Each kite is diamond shaped and 0,2 m2 in area; double hemmed on all edges; with dacron spar pockets and framed with a 3mm glass fibre longeron.  Each kite has a 2,4 m long coloured polyester taffeta ribbon tail.
    e.. about 18 km of polyester thread was used and the arch was sewn on an Empisal 328B sewmaster domestic machine (my favourite and first domestic machine).
    f.. I could have flown a further 58 kites branded with the words "Kites for Africa" (14 kites) on a section of this arch, making a total of 417 kites (83,4 m2).  I was prevented from doing it by the prohibitive "second tier sponsorship fee" (R20 000 about $ 3100) I would have had to pay to fly a "branded" kite.  Unfortunately the sponsors of the festival were IMHO rather short sighted and were not interested in "sponsoring" my arch (I just wanted to recoup my expenditure).  They could have auctioned it that evening at the kite auction to raise funds for the Cape Mental Health Society.  Rather short sighted - sigh!
  I will be launching our web site within the next few weeks (not to be missed) and all things being equal, improving on the arch record in the forseeable future!

  Tight lines, must fly   :-))
  Richard and Jacqui Loydell  

      "Made for Africa, by Africa"                    
        ***** Kites for Africa*****
                Simon's Town    
                South Africa            
  Tel: +27-21-7862539
       : +27-83-7263308




  http://www.skybusiness.com/kitesforafrica (will be launched soon - under construction)

 
 
 

71,8 m2 kite arch flown in Cape Town, South Africa

Post by Richard Loydel » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

Hi all

The arch I made was constructed as an arch that flew at 90 degrees to the wind - similar to the one flown last year by Terry Sansom et al  at the AKA fly in the USA.  The arch was constructed as described at www.aks.org.au  - John Murray's arch plan, but the size of the kite was a lot bigger hence the greater sq meters.  My intention was not to go for the number of kites but rather the sq m of the kites.

IMO it appears from the first 3 photos at   http://fly.to/megsworld  that the arch flown across Niagara was not a true arch but a stack of eddies that flew downwind (not across the wind) and upwards to a point (a rather abrupt point - was there a lifting kite at that point?) and then "fell" down on the other side.  The first picture shows a rather flat arch with kites that do not really appear to be flying in a very efficient manner at all - how did they get to the other side, it looks like they were halfway there?

Any friendly, intelligent comments from others?

Tight lines, must fly   :-))
Richard and Jacqui Loydell  

    "Made for Africa, by Africa"                    
      ***** Kites for Africa*****
              Simon's Town    
              South Africa            
Tel: +27-21-7862539
     : +27-83-7263308




http://www.skybusiness.com/kitesforafrica (will be launched soon - under construction)

 
 
 

71,8 m2 kite arch flown in Cape Town, South Africa

Post by Richard T Dutto » Wed, 03 May 2000 04:00:00

The kites had a single attach point like a stack and infact were flown as a
stack at one point. They flew across the wind as an arch down wind as a
stack. They got the kites accross the gorge by flying a single kite across
then they pulled the train across the gorge. The wind direction that day was
at about 45 degrees to the gorge. Because of the distance involved, the
gorge is over 800feet, the arch looks a lot more pointed than it really was,
if there were pictures of it from further up the gorge I think you would
have to admit that it was a much smoother arch than this picture makes it
look. As far as the area goes, if you divide 71.8sq m by 2000 you get an
area of 359sq cm per kite. Now if we assume the kites to have a cross spar
of 2/3 the length of the main spar then the size of each of the kites would
have to be less than 21.8cm by 32.8cm for this arch to have less sail area
than yours. I don't have any of these kites personally but I know someone
who does so I will get them to measure these kites and let you know if you
make it on area alone. As far as the criteria for a world record for an arch
again I do not know the answer for that but before you claim a world record
I hope you did some research into any existing records for that category.
Another arch was flown at the AKA convention last year and if my brain cell
recalls correctly there were 399 kites in that one which is also more than
your 359 kites. Again I do not know the dimensions of those kites but
considering they were put together by rec.kiters I am sure someone will be
able to let us know  the dimensions. In my opinion the number of kites is a
more realistic measure for a record than total sail area. I think 2000 small
kites flown in an arch is far more spectacular than 10 really big kite flown
in an arch but as I say this is my opinion.
I am not trying to put down your knoble attempt, as I know first hand how
much work goes into an attempt of this nature, all I am trying to do is to
make sure your claim is valid.
Richard Dutton


Hi all

The arch I made was constructed as an arch that flew at 90 degrees to the
wind - similar to the one flown last year by Terry Sansom et al at the AKA
fly in the USA.  The arch was constructed as described at www.aks.org.au  -
John Murray's arch plan, but the size of the kite was a lot bigger hence the
greater sq meters.  My intention was not to go for the number of kites but
rather the sq m of the kites.

IMO it appears from the first 3 photos at   http://fly.to/megsworld  that
the arch flown across Niagara was not a true arch but a stack of eddies that
flew downwind (not across the wind) and upwards to a point (a rather abrupt
point - was there a lifting kite at that point?) and then "fell" down on the
other side.  The first picture shows a rather flat arch with kites that do
not really appear to be flying in a very efficient manner at all - how did
they get to the other side, it looks like they were halfway there?

Any friendly, intelligent comments from others?

Tight lines, must fly   :-))
Richard and Jacqui Loydell

    "Made for Africa, by Africa"
      ***** Kites for Africa*****
              Simon's Town
              South Africa
Tel: +27-21-7862539
     : +27-83-7263308




http://www.skybusiness.com/kitesforafrica (will be launched soon - under
construction)

 
 
 

71,8 m2 kite arch flown in Cape Town, South Africa

Post by Richard Loydel » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Thanks Richard, I appreciate your efforts.

Sounds like a lot of PT to get the arch across Niagara and I agree that it
must have been one helluva sight and effort to get it across!  I think I
must go to the states on day and give it a go - dollar exchange rate
permitting ;-)).  As far as a world record is concerned, I am not really too
bothered about it as my intention was to fly a larger sail area than the
arch that was flown last year at the AKA convention.  That arch (AKA) was
constructed as described at www.aks.org.au  - John Murray's arch plan and
the kite was 40 cm by 40 cm with 22,5% of the area above the "cross spar".
At 399 kites for that arch it makes an area of just under 50 sq m (if my
geometry is correct).  My arch was baased on the same design but the
dimensions of my kites were 62cm by 62 cm.  Really if I wanted to claim a
record I would not know where to start so I am just sounding out the
newsgroup
to see what the feelings are.

Next time you come to SA, I will fly a 500 kite arch and you must secure
your record train
of box kites to the zenith of the arch - how about it? - what type
of record would that be :-))).

Tight lines, must fly   :-))
Richard and Jacqui Loydell

    "Made for Africa, by Africa"
      ***** Kites for Africa*****
              Simon's Town
              South Africa
Tel: +27-21-7862539
     : +27-83-7263308




http://www.skybusiness.com/kitesforafrica (will be launched soon - under
construction)


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>The kites had a single attach point like a stack and infact were flown as a
>stack at one point. They flew across the wind as an arch down wind as a
>stack. They got the kites accross the gorge by flying a single kite across
>then they pulled the train across the gorge. The wind direction that day

was.........
...................................................etc, etc
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>>Richard Dutton