Buy a new kite, and there will be no wind - never fails :(

Buy a new kite, and there will be no wind - never fails :(

Post by Will Haapaniem » Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:00:00


unless of course you just bought a skytiger hi 40, then the wind rips like
never before.

will

Quote:
> Anyone else notice this??  It seems that whenever you buy a kite your area
> is becalmed for at least a week...

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Post by Atomic Sku » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

  Anyone else notice this??  It seems that whenever you buy a kite your area
is becalmed for at least a week...

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Post by L.G.W. Braam » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

hehe,

it's the same force that blows the wind acros the office at workinghours,
making me think 'why am i not on the beach?'
And at the end of the day just when i'm going home.... *poof*,  no more wind
at all

 
 
 

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Post by Atomic Sku » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>hehe,

>it's the same force that blows the wind acros the office at workinghours,
>making me think 'why am i not on the beach?'
>And at the end of the day just when i'm going home.... *poof*,  no more wind
>at all

  Yeah, when you have to work, perfect wind, when you have time off, no
wind..

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Post by Atomic Sku » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


>>hehe,

>>it's the same force that blows the wind acros the office at workinghours,
>>making me think 'why am i not on the beach?'
>>And at the end of the day just when i'm going home.... *poof*,  no more wind
>>at all

>  Yeah, when you have to work, perfect wind, when you have time off, no
>wind..

  I *WANT* to try out the Solution dammit!

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Post by Alan Traver » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I try to fly regularly in Reading, UK every Tuesday.  Guess what!  Every
Tuesday, no wind.  Wednesday it'll be just right.

Alan.

 
 
 

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Post by Ralph Jo » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>   Anyone else notice this??  It seems that whenever you buy a kite your area
> is becalmed for at least a week...

Sometimes there is an other possibility:
You buy a new kite and it becomes very windy. Of course you want to try
your new kite and bust it during the first assembly.

For this reason no wind is the more friendly version of one of the
murphy's kiting laws

Regards,
Ralph

 
 
 

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Post by michael m. mos » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Happened just yesterday, Looked out the workshop/sewing/computer/living
room (small 1 bedroom apt.)  winds looked good, decided to build a
fighter and correct all my previous boo-boos, finished, looked out and
all the wind had left for somewhere else!  Went to the flying field
anyway, still no wind, took out a paper indian and was amazed at how it
would fly on thermals, at one point the kite was a couple hundred feet
straight up overhead!  If it was a bird it prolly would have pooped in
my open mouth!  ;-(
Then I left and put my kayak in the river to surf some waves for awhile
and of course the wind picked up right away!!, stayed out playing the
river for an hour or so, when I put the boat back on the truck to go
back to the flying field, the winds dropped back off (and stayed that
way)
Wind forecast for today is looking better.

Mikey and Nan luvs ya!

 
 
 

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Post by Edward Gree » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

>   Anyone else notice this??  It seems that whenever you buy a kite your
area
> is becalmed for at least a week...

Unless you have just bought an ultralight ....

ed/

 
 
 

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Post by (Pete Cresswell » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

RE/

Quote:

>  Anyone else notice this??  It seems that whenever you buy a kite your area
>is becalmed for at least a week...

I recently bought my first kite (a 2.2m SlingShot) and never realized just how
seldom the wind blows in Southeastern PA.
-----------------------
Pete Cresswell
 
 
 

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Post by Jamey Fountai » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

kite ownership definitely transforms you into a junior meteorologist!
(seeing myself following in my fathers footsteps watching The Weather
Channel 6 hours a day when I get older.)
Jamey


Quote:
> RE/

> >  Anyone else notice this??  It seems that whenever you buy a kite your
area
> >is becalmed for at least a week...

> I recently bought my first kite (a 2.2m SlingShot) and never realized just
how
> seldom the wind blows in Southeastern PA.
> -----------------------
> Pete Cresswell

 
 
 

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Post by S. K. Brow » Tue, 01 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>   Anyone else notice this??  It seems that whenever you buy a kite your area
> is becalmed for at least a week...
>[...]

Hi Mr. Skull,

Murphy's Laws of kites: "If you build or buy an Ultralight, the winds
will howl. If you build or buy a Traction/buggy kite, the winds will
whisper. For any other type of kite, it will rain."

I've flown the Solution for about 3/4 an hour in pretty light winds now.
Here's a cut & paste excerpt of a *** review I sent to Michael
Raycraft:

It does fly forward & reverse equally well. Sideways, diagonally- it's
all about the same speed. Rather quick. Get it into a propellor
spin and look out! The spin is its presentation move, it winds those
lines up rapidly.

In light winds, on the edge, it will fall out of the sky. I think I'll
fly it on longer lines, say about 75' next time. On the 50', I just ran
out of sky too quickly to recover some times. On the ground, with all
its complicated frame, re-launch is often difficult. I didn't try any
3-D type tricks, I think the frame would tend to foul the lines. Perhaps
it would do those Deca yo-yo roll ups, though.

Mind you, this is all from about 3/4 of an hour flying time at the
bottom of its wind range. It does fly different from a Rev, I'd say it
has more oversteer, likely the result of having a lot of the kite's mass
on the wingtips. Aesthetically I find it more pleasing than the Rev, and
you can't beat the price! <g>

I'll do a proper review when I get some more time on it,. Today looks
like a good day, I think I'll head out to the beach _now_!

Steve

 
 
 

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Post by Christian Schul » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Hi!



Quote:

>   Anyone else notice this??  It seems that whenever you buy a kite your
area
> is becalmed for at least a week...

The same here in Cologne/Germany.
Usually we have really light breezes here...
but just whren I finished my new 6.3 sqm kite (size due to our lack of wind)
we got 2 days wiht wind between
7 and 10 knots (estimated)
And THAT was a little too much for not having experience with this thing :-(

Chris

 
 
 

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Post by Atomic Sku » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:
>Hi Mr. Skull,

>Murphy's Laws of kites: "If you build or buy an Ultralight, the winds
>will howl. If you build or buy a Traction/buggy kite, the winds will
>whisper. For any other type of kite, it will rain."

>I've flown the Solution for about 3/4 an hour in pretty light winds now.
>Here's a cut & paste excerpt of a *** review I sent to Michael
>Raycraft:

>It does fly forward & reverse equally well. Sideways, diagonally- it's
>all about the same speed. Rather quick. Get it into a propellor
>spin and look out! The spin is its presentation move, it winds those
>lines up rapidly.

>In light winds, on the edge, it will fall out of the sky. I think I'll
>fly it on longer lines, say about 75' next time. On the 50', I just ran
>out of sky too quickly to recover some times. On the ground, with all
>its complicated frame, re-launch is often difficult.

 If it's laying on it's back relaunch is easy, stand up up like you would a
delta it it's on it's "belly" then you can grab the top lines and give them a
tog, when done right this will tension the upper bowed rod, which will then
spring back and cause the kite to "jump" back a few inches with the sail
angled slightly up into the wind, if you've got a good breeze the wind will
catch it and pop it back up.  This is assuming you're flying on grass, I'm not
sure either would work on sand.

Quote:
>I didn't try any
>3-D type tricks, I think the frame would tend to foul the lines. Perhaps
>it would do those Deca yo-yo roll ups, though.

  I've heard from somone who's flown them that says you can do a rollup with a
Solution, however, the recovery is difficult.  I'm wondering about axle type
moves, when it goes horizontal it floats straight down rather that gliding.

Quote:
>Mind you, this is all from about 3/4 of an hour flying time at the
>bottom of its wind range. It does fly different from a Rev, I'd say it
>has more oversteer, likely the result of having a lot of the kite's mass
>on the wingtips. Aesthetically I find it more pleasing than the Rev, and
>you can't beat the price! <g>

  I got to fly it in less than ideal conditions today, a baseball game had
taken over my favorite spot so I ended up flying downwind of trees :(  I
discovered that you can do a horizontal glide in low wind to generate lift
without turning the kite around, just fly it backwards, then forwards, then
backwards again.  I also thought it was more gracefull in flight than a Rev,
and tracks straighter.  It felt more "springy" than a Rev thanks to the frame,
somtimes the leading edge of the sail would flutter when it got going fast(a
leech line run from the wingtips, through the edges of the sail's wing, behind
the diamond shaped part, through the other wing's edges to the opposite
wingtips would have eliminated this, but it's not really a problem). Dive
stops are possible, but not as sharp or a Rev SLE (maybe equal to a Rev 1.5
classic or EXP)  I think you could stiffen the frame by adding a spar between
the two sail standoffs near where they stick into the LE connectors, then run
a pair of guy lines from each end of the spine to the LE connector on the
opposite side.  this would make the middle of the kite completely rigid in the
verticle direction without affecting the frame's ability to twist (I think you
could stack them using this modification)

  Also, there's a GOOD reason for the *** connectors, at least on the spine
and middle leading edge, they keep the sail standoffs from popping out.  I'd
definatly only reccomend replacing the top connectors for the vertical
spreaders, and only if they start to fail.  Otherwise leave the originals in.
(they'll eventually break in and not be such a pain in the arse)  If you
eventually have to, try to find tight connectors to keep the standoffs held in
place. (also, make sure any connectors you use to replace the vertical
spreader connectors are the same "depth" as the originals, if you can't, then
you might file the difference off the end of the rod to make sure you don't
put too much strain on your sail - but measure them first and write it down
somwhere)

I'd bet this would make a really good ballet kite, Revolution should aquire
the rights to make these.

  I'll do a full review when I get more time with it under better conditions,
today I was fighting just to keep it in the air thanks to the dirty wind I was
forced to fly in.

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Post by Atomic Sku » Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>I'll do a proper review when I get some more time on it,. Today looks
>like a good day, I think I'll head out to the beach _now_!

  I also completely replaced the bridles with 200 lb braided dacron on the top
and 150 on the bottom (the originals have slightly thinner line on the
bottom).  The original bridles have a dacron sleave around an unbraided core
(spectra I believe, you'd *think* this would be a good idea, theory and
practice are two different things I guess - maybe if they braided the spectra
core?), which can (but probably won't if you don't mess with it) pull out
though the braid.  Fortunatly the bridle is _extremly_ simple, just four lines
run between the wingtips and spine with a tow loop larksheadded onto each.  
Most people probably won't run into this problem, I was messing with the
fittings and removing/attaching the bridles when it happened, so I just
replaced the whole thing.

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