SkySharks: which year?

SkySharks: which year?

Post by Kevin Y Mayeshi » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 03:06:11


Is there an easy way to tell the diferrence between the 1993 and 1994
SkyShark rods?  Are the labels the same?  Were the ends of the 93
version "beefed-up" or just uniform in diameter with the rest of the
rod?  Any mid-year versions produced?  (i.e. reinforced ends, but not
as stiff?)  

Say I walk into a kite shop and see a kite framed with Sharks.  By just
looking at the rods, can one determine if they are the 1994 (stiffer)
version?  

Thanks

- Kevin

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SkySharks: which year?

Post by Michael Grav » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:28:36


Quote:
>Is there an easy way to tell the diferrence between the 1993 and 1994
>SkyShark rods?  Are the labels the same?  Were the ends of the 93
>version "beefed-up" or just uniform in diameter with the rest of the
>rod?  Any mid-year versions produced?  (i.e. reinforced ends, but not
>as stiff?)  

>Say I walk into a kite shop and see a kite framed with Sharks.  By just
>looking at the rods, can one determine if they are the 1994 (stiffer)
>version?  

Kevin,

The "new" rods came about when Erez (SkyShark) brought his
production on-shore late in 1993. The "new" rods all have the
SkyShark name screened onto them.

The event newer variations (after May 1994) also have a blue stripe
around one end of the rod. These rods have been beffed up at the
ends to premit the use of inside ferrules. In theory the other end
of the rod is still the same o.d. as before, to fit the external
ferrule. Sadly, neither end of a new Vp rod fits the old external
ferrules.

Michael Graves

 
 
 

SkySharks: which year?

Post by Lee Hetheringt » Tue, 21 Jun 1994 22:42:08

| The even newer variations (after May 1994) also have a blue stripe
| around one end of the rod. These rods have been beffed up at the ends
| to premit the use of inside ferrules. In theory the other end of the
| rod is still the same o.d. as before, to fit the external
| ferrule. Sadly, neither end of a new Vp rod fits the old external
| ferrules.

I just framed a kite using the newest IIIp (a homemade Tracer clone).
The sticks I used have the blue stripe.  As far as I can tell, the only
difference between the end with the blue stripe and the end without the
blue strip, is the blue stripe itself.  I think both ends are the same
outer diameter, and the reinforcement seems to be the same length.  I
could slide an old 1993 external ferrule on both ends, except the blue
stripe gets in the way.  I wonder if the blue stripe (tape) itself is
providing the added protection against splitting when used with internal
ferrules.  Any comments?

I ended up using internal ferrules (Beman 16) everywhere, and it seems
fine.  However, this is a light-wind kite that will probably never see
above 6-8mph.

BTW, I really like the new IIIp.  They seem quite a bit stiffer than the
old 1993 IIIp.  I hear the new ones are tougher too, but I haven't
tested that theory yet...
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SkySharks: which year?

Post by Michael Grav » Wed, 22 Jun 1994 09:11:09

Quote:

>I just framed a kite using the newest IIIp (a homemade Tracer clone).
>The sticks I used have the blue stripe.  As far as I can tell, the only
>difference between the end with the blue stripe and the end without the
>blue strip, is the blue stripe itself.  I think both ends are the same
>outer diameter, and the reinforcement seems to be the same length.  I
>could slide an old 1993 external ferrule on both ends, except the blue
>stripe gets in the way.  I wonder if the blue stripe (tape) itself is
>providing the added protection against splitting when used with internal
>ferrules.  Any comments?

>I ended up using internal ferrules (Beman 16) everywhere, and it seems
>fine.  However, this is a light-wind kite that will probably never see
>above 6-8mph.

>BTW, I really like the new IIIp.  They seem quite a bit stiffer than the
>old 1993 IIIp.  I hear the new ones are tougher too, but I haven't
>tested that theory yet...

I agree that the 3p are the same o.d., the Vp are the ones that
changed as far as I can tell. I have broken the new rods, and they
break more like a pultrude, shattering along their length. They are
stiffer, but not as forgiving of impacts.

Michael Graves

 
 
 

SkySharks: which year?

Post by Greg Mar » Wed, 22 Jun 1994 23:05:06


|BTW, I really like the new IIIp.  They seem quite a bit stiffer than the
|old 1993 IIIp.  I hear the new ones are tougher too, but I haven't
|tested that theory yet...

Lee,

And, just for the archives, we should mention the nice way the '94
SkySharks break. The '93 would just snap, leaving sharp edges that can
(and do - trust me :-( ) poke holes in the sail. The '94's splinter
into long, thin, flexible pieces that can be a pain to get out of the
leading edge, but don't poke holes in the sail.

greg
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SkySharks: which year?

Post by Andrew Beatt » Wed, 29 Jun 1994 04:20:57

Quote:

>And, just for the archives, we should mention the nice way the '94
>SkySharks break. The '93 would just snap, leaving sharp edges that can
>(and do - trust me :-( ) poke holes in the sail. The '94's splinter
>into long, thin, flexible pieces that can be a pain to get out of the
>leading edge, but don't poke holes in the sail.

I seem to recall hearing a RUMOUR that Flexifoil are changing their spars
to ones that break more cleanly, so as to reduce the injury to the
poor onlooker that finds that his face is interrupting a 100mph power-dive.

Anyone know any more about this?

Andrew
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SkySharks: which year?

Post by Simo Salan » Wed, 29 Jun 1994 18:27:01


Quote:

>>And, just for the archives, we should mention the nice way the '94
>>SkySharks break. The '93 would just snap, leaving sharp edges that can
>>(and do - trust me :-( ) poke holes in the sail. The '94's splinter
>>into long, thin, flexible pieces that can be a pain to get out of the
>>leading edge, but don't poke holes in the sail.
>I seem to recall hearing a RUMOUR that Flexifoil are changing their spars
>to ones that break more cleanly, so as to reduce the injury to the
>poor onlooker that finds that his face is interrupting a 100mph power-dive.
>Anyone know any more about this?

I posted that "rumour" some time ago. My source of information
is Gerard van der Loo, who told about it in February '93. The
spar Gerard told Flexi selected was RCF (from Vlieger-Op, of
course).

Simo

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>Please note: I'm just back from holiday - sorry for any delay

Mee too, was writing a Fano report whole evening yesterday.

Simo
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