Sleeving spectra

Sleeving spectra

Post by Andy Savidg » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Whoo, another question...

Is there any simple way to get sleeving onto spectra lines without a
sleeving kit? I have the small "end sleeves" where the larks heads go. (Or
does anyone have any plans so I can make my own sleeving kit ?  (c;  )

Ta, Andy Savidge

 
 
 

Sleeving spectra

Post by Troy Gu » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I go to a music store and by piano or guitar wire and make my own
sleeving wires. I use #18 guitar wire. Be carefull tat you don't pinch
the end of the sleeving wire too hard or the wire will break the wire. I
use a metal washer or key ring to attach the end of the wire to. That
way pulling the spectra thru the sleeving , is much easier.

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Post by Elmer & LaVay Scot » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I use a large blunt needle.  I have used one with a point but it is more
difficult to keep it inside the sleeving.  Seal the ends of the sleeving and
insert the needle through the sleeving just past the sealed end.  Feed the
sleeving onto the needle and spectra.

If you or a friend play guitar.  An easier way, I suspect, is to bend a small
"E" string so that you have a long loop.  Feed the solid end thru the
sleeving, stick the spectra through the loop and pull it through the sleeving.

Good luck.

Quote:

> Whoo, another question...

> Is there any simple way to get sleeving onto spectra lines without a
> sleeving kit? I have the small "end sleeves" where the larks heads go. (Or
> does anyone have any plans so I can make my own sleeving kit ?  (c;  )

> Ta, Andy Savidge


 
 
 

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Post by Jacque » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I used an end of very thin piano wire. An old E guitar string ( metal for an
acoustic guitar is fine to ) I cut of about  1 meter and bent it right in the
middel, just with my hands. You can youse small pliers to make the bow a bit
smaller but when you punch it to much the wire will break. Its better to make the
bend so that the curve of the two ends are on the same side. I seal the ends of
the sleeve with a sigaret lighter  while the sleeve is on the wire. In that way
the sleeve always stays open.
Jacques


Quote:
> I use a large blunt needle.  I have used one with a point but it is more
> difficult to keep it inside the sleeving.  Seal the ends of the sleeving and
> insert the needle through the sleeving just past the sealed end.  Feed the
> sleeving onto the needle and spectra.

> If you or a friend play guitar.  An easier way, I suspect, is to bend a small
> "E" string so that you have a long loop.  Feed the solid end thru the
> sleeving, stick the spectra through the loop and pull it through the sleeving.

> Good luck.


> > Whoo, another question...

> > Is there any simple way to get sleeving onto spectra lines without a
> > sleeving kit? I have the small "end sleeves" where the larks heads go. (Or
> > does anyone have any plans so I can make my own sleeving kit ?  (c;  )

> > Ta, Andy Savidge

 
 
 

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Post by Pedro Fuente » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Hi,
mi wife likes cross stitch and these needles are perfect for sleeving, they
haven't point, about 1 mm diameter and big hole to attach the line, and that
is cheaper than anything else!
For me it works fine, at least.

Regards & Buen Viento
Pedro



Quote:
> Whoo, another question...

> Is there any simple way to get sleeving onto spectra lines without a
> sleeving kit? I have the small "end sleeves" where the larks heads go. (Or
> does anyone have any plans so I can make my own sleeving kit ?  (c;  )

> Ta, Andy Savidge

 
 
 

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Post by Martin Finniga » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Hi,

Do an archive search on dejanews - this topic comes up pretty frequently in
rec.kites.  Also I'd be surpirsed if someone out there hasn't put together a
page about sleeving.

Many flyers (myself included) don't bother sleeving spectra nowadays except
where abrasion is potentially a problem (such as at the attachment point on
flexifoils).  For 'normal' sports kite lines sleeving doesn't seem to add
any strength to the knot, takes time to do, and sometimes contributes to
line hang-ups.  Once again, there was a lengthy thread on this a couple of
months ago which you should be able to track down fairly easily.

All the best

Martin

Quote:
-----Original Message-----

Newsgroups: rec.kites
Date: 06 September 1999 22:23
Subject: Sleeving spectra

>Whoo, another question...

>Is there any simple way to get sleeving onto spectra lines without a
>sleeving kit? I have the small "end sleeves" where the larks heads go. (Or
>does anyone have any plans so I can make my own sleeving kit ?  (c;  )

>Ta, Andy Savidge


>Whoo, another question...

>Is there any simple way to get sleeving onto spectra lines without a
>sleeving kit? I have the small "end sleeves" where the larks heads go. (Or
>does anyone have any plans so I can make my own sleeving kit ?  (c;  )

>Ta, Andy Savidge

 
 
 

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Post by Andy Savidg » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Thanks all,

rest assured I did try a couple of different things before I posted - my
girlfriends sewing box is large but holds precious little in the way of
tapestry/cross-stitch needles, and the only guitar in the house is acoustic
and strung with gut or coiled strings. I'd assumed I was missing something
important (apart from perserverance!)

It is only the ends I need to sleeve where I larkshead onto the bridle and
handles - I tried unsheathed and it took an age to get the lines off as
they'd tightened.

Anyway - 'nuff info, ta. I'll get some fuse wire tommorrow and try again.

Ta

Andy

 
 
 

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Post by Dazz » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Quote:

> Thanks all,

> rest assured I did try a couple of different things before I posted - my
> girlfriends sewing box is large but holds precious little in the way of
> tapestry/cross-stitch needles, and the only guitar in the house is acoustic
> and strung with gut or coiled strings. I'd assumed I was missing something
> important (apart from perserverance!)

> It is only the ends I need to sleeve where I larkshead onto the bridle and
> handles - I tried unsheathed and it took an age to get the lines off as
> they'd tightened.

The trick with unsleevedlines is to make a little pigtail on the end of
the loop, then you just need to pull the pigtail to undo the loop...

Thanks to Chris Matheson for telling me that one...

 Dazzz

 
 
 

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Post by SportKit » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>The trick with unsleevedlines is to make a little pigtail on the end of
>the loop, then you just need to pull the pigtail to undo the loop...

Isn't that the coolest little trick? Peter showed me that one too. All his
bridles come with the pigtailed leaders. (One of the few parts I get to make,
hehehe)

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Post by Chris Matheso » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

<SNIP>

Quote:
> The trick with unsleevedlines is to make a little pigtail on the end of
> the loop, then you just need to pull the pigtail to undo the loop...

> Thanks to Chris Matheson for telling me that one...

>  Dazzz

You're welcome dude ;O)

Whatever,

Chris.
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Post by Chris Scherman » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Quote:
>rest assured I did try a couple of different things before I posted

Try green florist's wire from an arts & crafts store.  It's very thin and
cheap.  Works great!

Chris

 
 
 

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Post by Andy Savidg » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Quote:


> The trick with unsleevedlines is to make a little pigtail on the end of
> the loop, then you just need to pull the pigtail to undo the loop...

I'm intrigued, but not sure what you mean by this - do you mean some kind of
slip knot? Or tied somehow "on the bight", so the knot is actually
incomplete (in as much as the end isn't pulled completely through) but still
quite safe because the tension holds it tight? I think I'll try the latter
tommorrow.

Andy

 
 
 

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Post by Robert Horto » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I learned that one as a Red's knot.  I use it on all my really small lines,
sleeved or not. Also I have a mod of it, that I use on very heavy line. I
herneate the spectra out of its dacron sleeve at the extent of it's arc, and
larks head a piece of light weight dacron to it then work it back into it's
sheath. The small ends are then figur-eighted at an appropriate length.
rjh.

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Post by Art Clar » Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:00:00

There's a couple of how-to's at the bottom of this page:
http://www.amoka.com/kiteshop.html

Sea ya!

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Quote:

> Thanks all,

> rest assured I did try a couple of different things before I posted - my
> girlfriends sewing box is large but holds precious little in the way of
> tapestry/cross-stitch needles, and the only guitar in the house is acoustic
> and strung with gut or coiled strings. I'd assumed I was missing something
> important (apart from perserverance!)

> It is only the ends I need to sleeve where I larkshead onto the bridle and
> handles - I tried unsheathed and it took an age to get the lines off as
> they'd tightened.

> Anyway - 'nuff info, ta. I'll get some fuse wire tommorrow and try again.

> Ta

> Andy

 
 
 

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Post by w0dE » Thu, 09 Sep 1999 04:00:00

What do you mean by a pig tail (sorry, newby question)
    WODEN


Quote:


> > Thanks all,

> > rest assured I did try a couple of different things before I posted - my
> > girlfriends sewing box is large but holds precious little in the way of
> > tapestry/cross-stitch needles, and the only guitar in the house is
acoustic
> > and strung with gut or coiled strings. I'd assumed I was missing
something
> > important (apart from perserverance!)

> > It is only the ends I need to sleeve where I larkshead onto the bridle
and
> > handles - I tried unsheathed and it took an age to get the lines off as
> > they'd tightened.

> The trick with unsleevedlines is to make a little pigtail on the end of
> the loop, then you just need to pull the pigtail to undo the loop...

> Thanks to Chris Matheson for telling me that one...

>  Dazzz