Kite Tail Tales (Was: Re: Kite Tails)

Kite Tail Tales (Was: Re: Kite Tails)

Post by g.. » Thu, 03 Sep 1992 02:07:18


Kite tails....

Well, I thought I would post some questions/comments/experiences that I have
had with kite tails....

Now I am one who doesn't like to spend money on tails made specifically for
kite flying, so I tend to use things I found around the house; some with
moderate success and others complete failures (i.e. looks really stupid).

Here is what I found out: (comments on other attempts would be appreciated)

1.  Flag tape (the non-sticky tape used for marking off lawn/construction
boundaries)  It is relatively light weight, comes in bright florescent colors,
and follows the kite fairly well.  However, it tends to curl-up on itself
rendering it somewhat of a brightly colored string hard to be seen. Its great
the first couple of minutes.....

2.  Crepe paper:  Very light weight, bright colors, follows kite well.  This
stuff however can tear easily if you are not careful, and if it is humid it
will absorb water, making it heavier.  It didn't seem to curl up as did the
flag tape.  I liked using it.  BTW, probably can only be used a couple of times
before it falls apart in your hand. Besides that, I liked its dynamics.

3.  Video Tape:  Well, I had this great idea (huh?) one day.  I had a trashy
video tape laying in the closet.... Well, I cut it and used about 2000-3000
feet of the tape (yes, there were no power lines around, and no people behind
the kite, and no storms or airplanes to get hit with).  The guy with me liked
it for two reasons:  it sparkled, and it was long.  I thought it was too thin
and dark, but I did like the length-this huge strip of tape in the air.  
This tape is very light, and it follows the kite OK (short & long)- I probably
won't use it again- it takes to long to roll up. :-)

4. Kite Store Tail (soft plastic):  I am talking about the one that is manufac-
tured like a tube... I think it is made this way to keep it from curling up on
itself--well,
it just seems too stiff to me.  A friend of mine had it on his kite, and it

5. Mylar- I have no experience with this sort of tail- (maybe likened to video
tape) to me, it seems like it
will have "kinked" dynamics- not actually performing a smooth loop-I DON'T
KNOW.

So, if you have tried something, and it works- and it could be used over & over
again, and it follows the kite well, let me know.  

Does the tubular "Kite shop tail" follow the kite well?    

What about that material that the gymnast uses (the stick and ribbon thing?)
What is it, is it expensive, is it, could it be....mylar (OH NO! -mr. Bill)

Thanks for your time...
Paul-the-guy-who-wants-a-peel-anda-Rev-anda-....

 
 
 

Kite Tail Tales (Was: Re: Kite Tails)

Post by David Wuerte » Sat, 05 Sep 1992 19:13:20

I saw an article in a really old Scientific American about simple kites,
and there was a sketch of a kite tail made by stringing together paper
cups with the bottoms cut out.  Apparently this has more lift than
streamers, while providing the same directional stability.  Has anybody
out there tried this?

Dave
-----
David Wuertele, Yasuda Lab, Electronic Engineering, Institute of Industrial Science,


 
 
 

Kite Tail Tales (Was: Re: Kite Tails)

Post by CSEPLO,STEPHEN » Sat, 05 Sep 1992 23:47:30


Quote:
>cups with the bottoms cut out.  Apparently this has more lift than
>streamers, while providing the same directional stability.  Has anybody
>out there tried this?

Actually this produces drag and uses the same principal as a drouge.

Used drouges plenty of times, but not the cups. Can't see why it wouldn't
work, but it may over load the kite with drag and weight if the "tail"
is to long.

Hey, anybody remeber the cup kite where you cut styrofoam cups in half
and then put them on a frame, curved side down, and it would fly?

--

The Mad Hata  

"Hey, Mon....Tako Kichi!"

 
 
 

Kite Tail Tales (Was: Re: Kite Tails)

Post by Paul Crowl » Wed, 09 Sep 1992 17:20:52

Quote:


>Hey, anybody remeber the cup kite where you cut styrofoam cups in half
>and then put them on a frame, curved side down, and it would fly?

>--

>The Mad Hata  

>"Hey, Mon....Tako Kichi!"

Maxwell Eden's book "kiteworks" has plans for this, apparently only
Macdonalds cups will do.

aul

 
 
 

Kite Tail Tales (Was: Re: Kite Tails)

Post by Brian Dockt » Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:54:31

: I saw an article in a really old Scientific American about simple kites,
: and there was a sketch of a kite tail made by stringing together paper
: cups with the bottoms cut out.  Apparently this has more lift than
: streamers, while providing the same directional stability.  Has anybody
: out there tried this?

Were these strung with the bottom toward the wind or away from the wind?
In other words, were these just a train of drogues?

Brian
--
Brian Dockter                    | Northwest Digital Systems
UUCP: uunet!nds!brian            | Voice: 206-524-0014

 
 
 

Kite Tail Tales (Was: Re: Kite Tails)

Post by David Wuerte » Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:10:02

|: I saw an article in a really old Scientific American about simple kites,
|
|Were these strung with the bottom toward the wind or away from the wind?
|In other words, were these just a train of drogues?

I'm not sure what a drogue is.  I beleive the cups had the small opening
pointing downwind, but that's my intuition, and not my memory.

Dave

 
 
 

Kite Tail Tales (Was: Re: Kite Tails)

Post by Mike Werli » Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:15:46

Quote:

>Kite tails....

>Well, I thought I would post some questions/comments/experiences that I have
>had with kite tails....

      (Stuff about kite tails deleted)

Quote:
>Does the tubular "Kite shop tail" follow the kite well?    

>What about that material that the gymnast uses (the stick and ribbon thing?)
>What is it, is it expensive, is it, could it be....mylar (OH NO! -mr. Bill)

>Thanks for your time...
>Paul-the-guy-who-wants-a-peel-anda-Rev-anda-....

What about the tape they use for things like "POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS"
The yellow stuff.  It may be a little heavy though.  I think they sell it
at some hardware stores with CAUTION written on it and such. (I do not
suggest using POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS tape exactly...unless you can acquire
it legally ;-)

Mike

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------

| AT&T Teaching Theater               |  phone: (301)403-4620          |
| Computer Science Center         |--------------------------------|