Jam session over steer (help)

Jam session over steer (help)

Post by Ron » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00


I was at the beach in Grand Haven a few days ago and found another kite
flier having serious problems with this Jam session.  It was spinning around
in circles as if it had horrible over steer. I'm sure this is a setup
problem.   After trying to fly it for 2 minutes he took it back to his car
and got out a Blur.   Later when I met him (for the first time) and asked
him about it - he said he can never fly it. I told him that I'm sure the
bridle is just adjusted wrong... and that I'd ask about it.  Does anyone
have any suggestions to try to eliminate this problem?  I'd like to be able
to help him next time I run into him.  (I never did get a chance to look at
it before he put it away.)  I assume it needs to be adjusted so that it's
more nose forward?  Does that sound logical?

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Jam session over steer (help)

Post by DJG » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00

sam thing happend to me yesterday i flew it befor plenty of times normal then
one day it had a big overstear so i look at were the bridle goes to the middle
spar were the two spars goin to form the wing if u know what im talking
about.werll the brital is tied to the midle spar and it was slid back and thats
why mine went crazy.so look at what im talkin about

hope this helps,
Mike G

Quote:

> I was at the beach in Grand Haven a few days ago and found another kite
> flier having serious problems with this Jam session.  It was spinning around
> in circles as if it had horrible over steer. I'm sure this is a setup
> problem.   After trying to fly it for 2 minutes he took it back to his car
> and got out a Blur.   Later when I met him (for the first time) and asked
> him about it - he said he can never fly it. I told him that I'm sure the
> bridle is just adjusted wrong... and that I'd ask about it.  Does anyone
> have any suggestions to try to eliminate this problem?  I'd like to be able
> to help him next time I run into him.  (I never did get a chance to look at
> it before he put it away.)  I assume it needs to be adjusted so that it's
> more nose forward?  Does that sound logical?

> --
>  From the electronic desk of...
>             R. Kramer
>             Grand Rapids, Michigan
>             ICQ: 641293
>             www.houseofphotography.com Personal Site
>             www.houseofphotography.com Corporate Site
>             www.houseofphotography.com M2S2 Kite club of Michigan site


 
 
 

Jam session over steer (help)

Post by DJG » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00

sam thing happend to me yesterday i flew it befor plenty of times normal then
one day it had a big overstear so i look at were the bridle goes to the middle
spar were the two spars goin to form the wing if u know what im talking
about.werll the brital is tied to the midle spar and it was slid back and thats
why mine went crazy.so look at what im talkin about

hope this helps,
Mike G

Quote:

> I was at the beach in Grand Haven a few days ago and found another kite
> flier having serious problems with this Jam session.  It was spinning around
> in circles as if it had horrible over steer. I'm sure this is a setup
> problem.   After trying to fly it for 2 minutes he took it back to his car
> and got out a Blur.   Later when I met him (for the first time) and asked
> him about it - he said he can never fly it. I told him that I'm sure the
> bridle is just adjusted wrong... and that I'd ask about it.  Does anyone
> have any suggestions to try to eliminate this problem?  I'd like to be able
> to help him next time I run into him.  (I never did get a chance to look at
> it before he put it away.)  I assume it needs to be adjusted so that it's
> more nose forward?  Does that sound logical?

> --
>  From the electronic desk of...
>             R. Kramer
>             Grand Rapids, Michigan
>             ICQ: 641293
>             www.houseofphotography.com Personal Site
>             www.houseofphotography.com Corporate Site
>             www.houseofphotography.com M2S2 Kite club of Michigan site


 
 
 

Jam session over steer (help)

Post by Djskit » Mon, 08 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>sam thing happend to me yesterday i flew it befor plenty of times normal then
>one day......

Any one that has been flying for a while will look at this and say Hmmmmmmmm.

The bridels usually  do not change on their own. If you set the kite to factory
setting you will have no oversteer. make sure you are on the furthest out (3
knots, first is for the line connection, second is where you should be, third
is for more spin) knot on the outhaul line and when you pull the bridel from
the tow point down and out, the tow point should be around the bottom spreader.
hope this helps

dodd

Dodd Gross, Master Instructor
Owner, DKC http://www.doddskites.com

 
 
 

Jam session over steer (help)

Post by high-flie » Tue, 09 Jun 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>The bridels usually  do not change on their own. If you set the kite to
factory
>setting you will have no oversteer. make sure you are on the furthest out
(3
>knots, first is for the line connection, second is where you should be,
third
>is for more spin) knot on the outhaul line and when you pull the bridel
from
>the tow point down and out, the tow point should be around the bottom
spreader.
>hope this helps

Thanks Dodd - I've seen the Jam fly so I no this wasn't normal. I didn't get
a chance to look at the guys kite. I watched him fly it and after a couple
minutes he put it away and took out a Blur.  Later when we met I asked him I
tried his Blur and asked him about the Jam (because I wanted to try it!) and
he said he can never fly it. I told him it has to be a mistake with the way
he put it together and just a bridle adjustment. Next time I see him on the
beach I want to be able to fix it like I know what I'm doing.  I'm sure it
will have to be something I can fix for him easily.  Thanks for the message.