Alps this year

Alps this year

Post by PipL » Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:58:51


I think I can safely say that snow isn't a problem in the Alps this year,
certainly not in Flaine.

I also /need/ some all-mountain skis and another week's off-piste training.

I tried hiring a pair of older Scott Crusade skis for a day - surprisingly
light and even carved a quite well on piste, albeit in near-perfect snow.

I also later tried a pair of Dynastar Cham-87 skis: I was suspicious of the
discreet "Rocker technology" logo, but they were fine in fluffy powder (and
there was a lot of that around), on red-run bumps and scraped-hard red home
runs, and they carved  well, maybe better than the Scotts.

Trouble is, I was finding my powder legs afer 3-4 years of mostly on-piste
skiing using carving skis, and despite a week's off-piste traning several
years ago, I'm not that experienced, so the subjective feel of the skis might
have changed over the week and it's probably not a fair comparison. I really
liked the Scotts - a revelation in powder after my own skis, but the Dynastars
might be the better all-rounder.

Doesn't it echo in here, now?
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Pip

 
 
 

Alps this year

Post by Colin Irvin » Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:13:13

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>>I think I can safely say that snow isn't a problem in the Alps this year,
>>certainly not in Flaine.

Nor, it would seem, in Avoriaz. One week and counting.

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>>Doesn't it echo in here, now?

>Heh. Does a bit. Usually pick up a few replies though, mostly from
>ukrm residents.

Yep - the ***s crop up everywhere.

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Alps this year

Post by The Older Gentlem » Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:36:25

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> >>I think I can safely say that snow isn't a problem in the Alps this year,
> >>certainly not in Flaine.

> Nor, it would seem, in Avoriaz. One week and counting.

> >>Doesn't it echo in here, now?

> >Heh. Does a bit. Usually pick up a few replies though, mostly from
> >ukrm residents.

> Yep - the ***s crop up everywhere.

*Waves*

Three Valleys in a week's time.

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Alps this year

Post by PipL » Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:00:07

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>>I think I can safely say that snow isn't a problem in the Alps this year,
>>certainly not in Flaine.

>Yeah, tons of the stuff all over the place. I imagine Flaine was
>brilliant.

Even just the easy-to-get-at stuff was; that's pretty much all I skied. Oh, I
did the Corblanche black run on the snowboard: ***y brilliant i thigh-high
powder, albeint getting a bit choppy.

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>>I also /need/ some all-mountain skis and another week's off-piste training.

>Practice. No substitute for miles under skis. Of course training is
>great, but unless you do enough 'variable' snow skiing it's likely to
>go to waste.

I'm sure you're right: there's no substitute for practice. One advantage of a
course though is that one gets to ski with people of a roughly similar
standard.

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>Come out to Engelberg one of these years and I'll show
>you what it's all about.

I'll take you up on that.

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>A lot of the current crop of skis bear such logos, but on many of them
>there's no sign of ab actual rocker. My off-piste tools of the last
>couple of seasons are Salomon Czars, and you can really see the front
>67cm (it says it on the ski) lift well up from the snow on a flat
>piste. Makes carving 'interesting' as and when the front part engages
>the snow part-way through a turn ;-)

I guess there must be a lean angle at which the entire ski suddenly engages
with the snow, yes?

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>Maybe you should bite the bullet and go for a more dedicated off-piste
>ski, rather than trying to find one 'all-rounder'.

Well, I was thinking of just having the one pair, assuming that I won't always
be driving. But it is tempting. At the moment, pressure from 'er Ladyship's
job means that I can't take much over a week away at a time like I used to be
able, and I reckon that per day of skiing, an eight-skiing-day week (well,
realistically 7.5 days of skiing), travelling alone, costs about 8-9 quid more
per skiing day than flying would. It's a lot more convenient, though.

Quote:
>>Doesn't it echo in here, now?

>Heh. Does a bit. Usually pick up a few replies though, mostly from
>ukrm residents.

And out of the trees....
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Alps this year

Post by Ace » Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:20:47

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>> My off-piste tools of the last
>>couple of seasons are Salomon Czars, and you can really see the front
>>67cm (it says it on the ski) lift well up from the snow on a flat
>>piste. Makes carving 'interesting' as and when the front part engages
>>the snow part-way through a turn ;-)

>I guess there must be a lean angle at which the entire ski suddenly engages
>with the snow, yes?

Not so much a function of lean angle but of forward pressure. If your
weight's just a little bit back only the back half of the ski is
really being pressured (and therefore bent into an arc) so the front
doesn't really engage, but get properly centred and the pressure bends
the front too, bringing the pre-bent portion into play as well. So
yes, suddenly engaging with the snow.

In effect, though, it's a good thing, as it really makes you
concentrate on keeping well centred, which is a_good_thing, not just
for carving like that but also essential for decent off-piste
technique.

(Ignore all the wannabees that talk about leaning back in powder - all
they're really seeing is the action of angling the skis upward to
raise them above the snow, or else in the case of the new skis the
rocker doing that for you, but the skier's weight wil still remain
centred around a 90deg angel to the ski. ITMS).

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>Well, I was thinking of just having the one pair, assuming that I won't always
>be driving.

Yeah, IKWYYM. Not such an issue for us, especially these days. I think
I've got four pairs of skis I actually use, and J's got five, at the
moment, plus a oerfectly serviceable pair of old twintips that we can
lend out to smaller friends and family, such as is the case today.

(I'm laid up with a bit of a cold today, and frankly CBA to go out
with them today, despite the sunshine).

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