Classic Roller Skis: Swenor v. Ski-Go v. V2

Classic Roller Skis: Swenor v. Ski-Go v. V2

Post by jonl.. » Fri, 08 Mar 2013 23:09:28


Getting a jump on the spring...

I'm intrigued by videos of Ski-Go's classic rollerski that has natural looking "flex" with every kick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w-K9jlkAE)   Seems like this would make it a lot easier on the joints than pounding a kick into a stiff aluminum shaft.

The problem is, the video also makes it look like the wheels are pretty fast (and other reviews confirm it's faster than Swenor or V2's slow wheels).

So, just trolling for any feedback people might have on the different state-of-the-art classic roller skis out there.  I'm looking for something that is slow enough to be able do diagonal stride up a mild uphill along with having a flexy shaft for absorbing both vibration and impact forces of the kick.  (Nice to have is something that would roll over bumps without catching.)

Specific contenders seem to be:

- Ski-Go Carbon 780
- Swenor Fiberglass Cap (with "wheel speed 3")
- V2 Terra (with composite shaft) or standard V2 910 with composite shaft

Thanks in advance,

Jon

 
 
 

Classic Roller Skis: Swenor v. Ski-Go v. V2

Post by g.. » Sat, 09 Mar 2013 03:48:24

How about Marwe, either the 700C or 800C?  I've been using the 800C for
over a decade.  Composite shafts (also non composite models) and built
in speed control (like a governor old VWs used to have). The 800C
is the longest on the market and great for a taller person. See
http://www.marwestore.com/ and
http://www.finnsisu.com/shop/Rollerskis.14

Gene

On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 06:09:28 -0800 (PST)

Quote:

> Getting a jump on the spring...

> I'm intrigued by videos of Ski-Go's classic rollerski that has
> natural looking "flex" with every kick
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w-K9jlkAE)   Seems like this would
> make it a lot easier on the joints than pounding a kick into a stiff
> aluminum shaft.

> The problem is, the video also makes it look like the wheels are
> pretty fast (and other reviews confirm it's faster than Swenor or
> V2's slow wheels).

> So, just trolling for any feedback people might have on the different
> state-of-the-art classic roller skis out there.  I'm looking for
> something that is slow enough to be able do diagonal stride up a mild
> uphill along with having a flexy shaft for absorbing both vibration
> and impact forces of the kick.  (Nice to have is something that would
> roll over bumps without catching.)

> Specific contenders seem to be:

> - Ski-Go Carbon 780
> - Swenor Fiberglass Cap (with "wheel speed 3")
> - V2 Terra (with composite shaft) or standard V2 910 with composite
> shaft

> Thanks in advance,

> Jon


 
 
 

Classic Roller Skis: Swenor v. Ski-Go v. V2

Post by jonl.. » Sat, 09 Mar 2013 05:03:13

Gene:

thanks for the suggestion.    I really don't know much about Marwe's and the Finn Sisu site doesn't give much info.   800C's look intimidatingly ***...  Any feedback on how the speed compares with V2 910 wheel?

Jon

Quote:

> How about Marwe, either the 700C or 800C?  I've been using the 800C for

> over a decade.  Composite shafts (also non composite models) and built

> in speed control (like a governor old VWs used to have). The 800C

> is the longest on the market and great for a taller person. See

> http://SportToday.org/

> http://SportToday.org/

> Gene

> On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 06:09:28 -0800 (PST)

> > Getting a jump on the spring...

> > I'm intrigued by videos of Ski-Go's classic rollerski that has

> > natural looking "flex" with every kick

> > (http://SportToday.org/)   Seems like this would

> > make it a lot easier on the joints than pounding a kick into a stiff

> > aluminum shaft.

> > The problem is, the video also makes it look like the wheels are

> > pretty fast (and other reviews confirm it's faster than Swenor or

> > V2's slow wheels).

> > So, just trolling for any feedback people might have on the different

> > state-of-the-art classic roller skis out there.  I'm looking for

> > something that is slow enough to be able do diagonal stride up a mild

> > uphill along with having a flexy shaft for absorbing both vibration

> > and impact forces of the kick.  (Nice to have is something that would

> > roll over bumps without catching.)

> > Specific contenders seem to be:

> > - Ski-Go Carbon 780

> > - Swenor Fiberglass Cap (with "wheel speed 3")

> > - V2 Terra (with composite shaft) or standard V2 910 with composite

> > shaft

> > Thanks in advance,

> > Jon


 
 
 

Classic Roller Skis: Swenor v. Ski-Go v. V2

Post by g.. » Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:01:56

The V2 910 is probably the slowest wheel around, a speed Len Johnson
use to recommend to elite athletes; for all others he suggested the 930
or sometimes the 920.  Marwe's 610 skate is probably the most widely
used rollerski by elites and masters in the U.S., except perhaps in the
east where Jenex is located.  It's also popular among some European
teams (lots more brand competition though).  I'm not sure about how
widely used the classic versions are outside the upper midwest (where
Finn Sisu is located and used to run masters programs). Elites favor
the single body 700, while the 800, which is the Marwe Combi with a
removable wirewheel attachment, is popular among others.  I sold my 930s
a couple of years ago, but as I recall the 800C's ride is much better
and its speed is comparable, perhaps a touch faster. Nothing dangerous
in itself - I'm no daredevil - especially with that limiter in the
bearing.  

Gene

On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:03:13 -0800 (PST)

Quote:

> Gene:

> thanks for the suggestion.    I really don't know much about Marwe's
> and the Finn Sisu site doesn't give much info.   800C's look
> intimidatingly ***...  Any feedback on how the speed compares with
> V2 910 wheel?

> Jon


> > How about Marwe, either the 700C or 800C?  I've been using the 800C
> > for

> > over a decade.  Composite shafts (also non composite models) and
> > built

> > in speed control (like a governor old VWs used to have). The 800C

> > is the longest on the market and great for a taller person. See

> > http://SportToday.org/

> > http://SportToday.org/

> > Gene

> > On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 06:09:28 -0800 (PST)

> > > Getting a jump on the spring...

> > > I'm intrigued by videos of Ski-Go's classic rollerski that has

> > > natural looking "flex" with every kick

> > > (http://SportToday.org/)   Seems like this
> > > would

> > > make it a lot easier on the joints than pounding a kick into a
> > > stiff

> > > aluminum shaft.

> > > The problem is, the video also makes it look like the wheels are

> > > pretty fast (and other reviews confirm it's faster than Swenor or

> > > V2's slow wheels).

> > > So, just trolling for any feedback people might have on the
> > > different

> > > state-of-the-art classic roller skis out there.  I'm looking for

> > > something that is slow enough to be able do diagonal stride up a
> > > mild

> > > uphill along with having a flexy shaft for absorbing both
> > > vibration

> > > and impact forces of the kick.  (Nice to have is something that
> > > would

> > > roll over bumps without catching.)

> > > Specific contenders seem to be:

> > > - Ski-Go Carbon 780

> > > - Swenor Fiberglass Cap (with "wheel speed 3")

> > > - V2 Terra (with composite shaft) or standard V2 910 with
> > > composite

> > > shaft

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > > Jon

 
 
 

Classic Roller Skis: Swenor v. Ski-Go v. V2

Post by jonl.. » Sat, 09 Mar 2013 08:01:20

Quote:
> The V2 910 is probably the slowest wheel around,

That's kind of what worries me about moving away from a V2 roller ski.  I'm not at all in phenomenal shape, but have decent technique, and even with the 910 wheels I find myself kick double-poling or double-poling more than I'd like and overall don't feel like I'm getting much of a workout (I.e., roller-skiing feels more like biking on flats in terms of aerobic training, than it feels like true snow skiing.)

On the other hand, I'm not surprised when you say the Marwe's have a better ride.  I'm picking up hints here and there that making a composite ski shaft isn't so straightforward and that Jenex may still be on the early part of the learning curve.  Others like Swenor and Ski-Go have been at it longer and may offer a more mature product as a result...

 
 
 

Classic Roller Skis: Swenor v. Ski-Go v. V2

Post by g.. » Sat, 09 Mar 2013 12:13:47

You must be undersestimating yourself.  The 910 wheels provide
substantial resistance - I injured myself using them - which means you
are either very strong, running your heart rate up well above L1, or
mistaken about which wheels you have.  Where are you located?  If you
can borrow a pair, or can visit the Twin Cities for a demo, give them
a try.  

Gene

On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:01:20 -0800 (PST)

Quote:

> > The V2 910 is probably the slowest wheel around,

> That's kind of what worries me about moving away from a V2 roller
> ski.  I'm not at all in phenomenal shape, but have decent technique,
> and even with the 910 wheels I find myself kick double-poling or
> double-poling more than I'd like and overall don't feel like I'm
> getting much of a workout (I.e., roller-skiing feels more like biking
> on flats in terms of aerobic training, than it feels like true snow
> skiing.)

> On the other hand, I'm not surprised when you say the Marwe's have a
> better ride.  I'm picking up hints here and there that making a
> composite ski shaft isn't so straightforward and that Jenex may still
> be on the early part of the learning curve.  Others like Swenor and
> Ski-Go have been at it longer and may offer a more mature product as
> a result...

 
 
 

Classic Roller Skis: Swenor v. Ski-Go v. V2

Post by Jim » Sun, 12 May 2013 22:25:46

For what it's worth, I have some experience with both V2 and Swenor.  

I have a pair of the original V2-900s with steel shaft and VERY slow wheels that I use from on a hill right outside of my house.  They have no brakes, but the wheels are slow enough that I can ski back done the hill without too much danger of getting out of control (just a little alpine-type back and forth).

The pair I use most are Swenor Fiberglass with the medium-speed wheels.  I use these nearly every day from my office on a flat 10-mile ski along the Charles River in Boston.  Although these wheels are notably faster than the ones on my V2-900s I definitely don't feel like I'm not getting a sufficient workout!!  There is often a 10+ mph headwind along the river and I really would not want to work any harder than I do at those times.  Another more personal comment is that I enjoy the exhilaration of being able to ski reasonably fast on these skis, getting a satisfying return for my effort.  It's that fun aspect that keeps me out there every day.