Boycott Austrian Resorts

Boycott Austrian Resorts

Post by David Hockenberge » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00


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> One of the ways for right thinking people to protest  against Joerg Haider
> is to boycott Austrian ski resorts. If you agree, pass this message on.

> Richard and Barbara Gottlieb

Never mix skiing and politics.

David 'would ski South Carolina if they had a resort' Hockenberger

Vail - battle flags flying

 
 
 

Boycott Austrian Resorts

Post by LePheau » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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>----------
>>"LePheaux>

>> Who iz Joerg Haider ?
>>  and what is the protest ?
>He is head of a right wing party in Austria that is on the verge of joining
>the present Austrian coalition Government.  He has stated some things in
the
>past as supportive of the Nazis and other Fascists. He is sort of cut out
of
>the same cloth as Jean Marie Le Pen and Pat Buchanan, <insert your
country's
>hard right demagoue here>.

<<<>>>
 Thanx Ted.
 I was trying to figure out what it had to do with skiing.
 Heh , Maybe the ole boy needs to feel the need for speed, and get some skis
on, EH<g>

 
 
 

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Post by rickknowla » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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> One of the ways for right thinking people to protest  against Joerg Haider
> is to boycott Austrian ski resorts. If you agree, pass this message on.

> Richard and Barbara Gottlieb

Great idea!  Let's punish ALL Austrians, including those who abhor Haider and
all he stands for, by boycotting Austrian resorts and products.  Punish them
for allowing their fellow citizens to vote for Haider!
--
__________________________________________________________

You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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Post by terry mors » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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> Look, he and his party were elected fair and square: wait until his
> party starts doing something you object to before you try taking action.

I'm reminded of another Austrian chap that was elected fair and square.
He was a painter, I think. (An Austrian will tell you this painter was
German -- and that Mozart was Austrian.)

Sure, ski in Austria if you want. Just don't try to move there.

--
-terry
http://www.terrymorse.com/ski/

 
 
 

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Post by terry mors » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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> Imagine how Germany and Hitler would have reacted to a boycott of German ski
> hills in, say, 1936.  It would have changed the course of history, right?

Well, at least the history of the Winter Olympics.

--
-terry
http://www.terrymorse.com/ski/

 
 
 

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Post by .. » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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> One of the ways for right thinking people to protest  against Joerg Haider
> is to boycott Austrian ski resorts. If you agree, pass this message on.

> Richard and Barbara Gottlieb

"Right thinking people"? Ah, the irony...

Look, he and his party were elected fair and square: wait until his
party starts doing something you object to before you try taking action.
Otherwise, you're no better than the demonized image of him that you present.


 
 
 

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Post by Hollywood Horvat » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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>> Who iz Joerg Haider ?
>>  and what is the protest ?

>He is head of a right wing party in Austria that is on the verge of joining
>the present Austrian coalition Government.  He has stated some things in the
>past as supportive of the Nazis and other Fascists. He is sort of cut out of
>the same cloth as Jean Marie Le Pen and Pat Buchanan, <insert your country's
>hard right demagoue here>

Yeah, but he's no John Rocker.  (The U.S. is still #1.)

--
                                Horvath

        I was surfing the net when Yahoo was only a hillbilly cheer.


 
 
 

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Post by rickknowla » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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> > Look, he and his party were elected fair and square: wait until his
> > party starts doing something you object to before you try taking action.

> I'm reminded of another Austrian chap that was elected fair and square.
> He was a painter, I think. (An Austrian will tell you this painter was
> German -- and that Mozart was Austrian.)

Imagine how Germany and Hitler would have reacted to a boycott of German ski
hills in, say, 1936.  It would have changed the course of history, right?
--
__________________________________________________________

You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
__________________________________________________________

 
 
 

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Post by ant » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00


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> He is head of a right wing party in Austria that is on the verge of
joining
> the present Austrian coalition Government.  He has stated some things in
the
> past as supportive of the Nazis and other Fascists. He is sort of cut out
of
> the same cloth as Jean Marie Le Pen and Pat Buchanan, <insert your
country's
> hard right demagoue here>.

He was described on Oz radio today as being "to the far right of Genghis
Khan".

Has some harsh views on immigration...

ant

 
 
 

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Post by David Hockenberge » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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> 1930-1932 was just one factor in the rise of Hitler.  He also didn't
> officially become a German Citizen until 1932.

Never trust an Austrian who wants to be a German.

David 'American by birth Tyrolean by spirit' Hockenberger

Vail - <insert Yodel wav file here>

 
 
 

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Post by Vinni » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00


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>   Hitler was never elected. <He was from Linz, Austria>  He was appointed
>Chancellor with the help of Franz von Papen, an ally and part of group close
>to President von Hindenburg and others.   He ran for President in 1932
>against von Hindenburg and lost, and actually the Nazi Party lost  Reichstag
>seats  in the 1932 Parlimentary elections as well, alot of historians
>believe that Nazis were on the decline after their stunning win in 1930.
>How the Weimar Constitution and the German Govenment was set up from
>1930-1932 was just one factor in the rise of Hitler.  He also didn't
>officially become a German Citizen until 1932.

I believe the Nazi Party achieved approximately 30% of the vote. In order to
build a working coalition in the parliamentary system, it was decided to make
Hitler the Chancellor. Despite not coming close to a majority, the Nazis had
enough support to make them a force in internal matters.

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>     On another note, I don't know if a Boycott will be the most productive
>thing,<I remember people a couple years back wanting to boycott Colorado
>because of the Anti Gay Initiative>  even though the EU is going to put
>sanctions on Austria, and I don't know what the US government will do.
>Every Major Western Power has a large Hard Right Movement, that can get up
>to 15 percent of the vote. Maybe not alot in a Federal System, but in a
>Parlimentary Democracy, it means a force.

This goes into the philosophical debate as to controlling a person's thoughts.
As much as a position is odious to us, what right do we have to tell other
people how to think? Thinking and philosophy is not a crime. I also believe that
a sovereign country's internal politics are their own business. It's really
quite hypocritical for us to continually tout our own sovereignty while telling
others what to do. Can't have it both ways.

From a pragmatic point of view, isolation would also appear to strengthen the us
vs. them atmosphere and be counterproductive.

It has been said that WWII began when the Treaty of Versaille was signed and I
think that has a lot of truth in it. One has to look at the current events
inside Europe in order to understand the resurgence of Nationalism. Eastern
Europe has fallen apart and is largely in chaos leading to an influx of
immigrants into Western Europe. As a result of it's physical location, Austria
is on the front lines of this immigration. Germany and other Western European
nations have also had very large movements from third world locations. Their
society is in real turmoil and they are seeking to re-establish order. (It's
interesting that our complaints about immigration from Mexico and Latin America
are somehow legitimate and Austria's are not). I don't have an answer nor
pretend to but I think economic isolation is the WORST possible choice. If there
is enough wealth to go around then maybe everyone would calm down.

Darth Dookie

Sez it all

 
 
 

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Post by Adrenochrom » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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> He was described on Oz radio today as being "to the far right of Genghis
> Khan".

> Has some harsh views on immigration...

He should be popular in Australia then.  Wonder if he likes fish'n'chips?
 
 
 

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Post by Brian Wagne » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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> Great idea!  Let's punish ALL Austrians, including those who abhor Haider and
> all he stands for, by boycotting Austrian resorts and products.  Punish them
> for allowing their fellow citizens to vote for Haider!

That last sentence says it all.  How can we stand for freely elected
governments, and against things like communist China trying to buy our
elections, and then try to dictate or strongarm the Austrian people to
tell them who they can vote for?  Those of you wanting a boycott, are
essentially saying that you stand for democracy as long as people vote
for the candidate YOU favor.  Furthermore, the party is only getting a
role in a coalition government, and all you have to base your
condemnation on is one man's verbal campaign rhetoric.  Of course, we
ALL know that politicians are ALWAYS completely candid, and NEVER tell
people what they want to hear ("Read my lips; no new taxes" and "I did
not have sex with that woman" ring any bells?)  Our own Supreme Court
has upheld the right of card carrying nazis to speak their piece, run
for office, and if elected, serve, but their ACTIONS in office are
subject to constitutional constraints, as are those of the Autstian
government.  Some people here apparently think that freedom of speech
and democracy are only for a chosen few, and only in this country.  It's
not bad enough we have a problem with political correctness in the USA,
now the thought police want to export it.
 
 
 

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Post by LePheau » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00

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>He was described on Oz radio today as being "to the far right of Genghis
>Khan".

>Has some harsh views on immigration...

<<<<<>>>>>
sounds like my kinda Guy<EG>
 
 
 

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Post by Todd Tilto » Sat, 05 Feb 2000 04:00:00

"Right Thinking People" isn't that a code phrase for commies?
Quote:

> One of the ways for right thinking people to protest  against Joerg Haider
> is to boycott Austrian ski resorts. If you agree, pass this message on.

> Richard and Barbara Gottlieb