Equipment recommendations for backwoods and occasional groomed trails

Equipment recommendations for backwoods and occasional groomed trails

Post by Donn Co » Sat, 16 Dec 1995 04:00:00


Hi,

My girlfriend, after much encouragement, rented some track skis last
weekend, and had a wonderful time, and now wants to purchase skis.  We
are confused about what "type" of ski to purchase.  We have several
local conservation areas that are not groomed that we like to frequent.
The track skis she rented (I have similar) were long and narrow, and
while they were great on flat terrain, they were very awkward on hills
and bumps.  Getting "away for the beaten path" is what we like to do,
with occassional trips to the local resorts that have groomed trails.

The local EMS (Nashua, NH) salesmen recommended that she buy a
wider/shorter ski because of our emphasis on non-groomed areas.  We
looked at a EMS Pioneer Bearclaw 65/55/60 160cm ski and a Karhu
Pathfinder 70/60/55 160cm ski.  Are these skis also appropriate for
groomed trails?  Will they have the same gliding sensation that the
track skis do?  In wanting to ski these different terrains, is it
possible to get one ski that works well in both, or do you really need
two sets of skis (each tailored towards the specific terrain)?

Thanks for any advice,

Donn Coe

 
 
 

Equipment recommendations for backwoods and occasional groomed trails

Post by Al Bower » Sat, 16 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Donn Coe:

Quote:
>My girlfriend, after much encouragement, rented some track skis last
>weekend, and had a wonderful time, and now wants to purchase skis.  We
>are confused about what "type" of ski to purchase.  We have several
>local conservation areas that are not groomed that we like to frequent.
>The local EMS (Nashua, NH) salesmen recommended that she buy a
>wider/shorter ski because of our emphasis on non-groomed areas.  We
>looked at a EMS Pioneer Bearclaw 65/55/60 160cm ski and a Karhu
>Pathfinder 70/60/55 160cm ski.  Are these skis also appropriate for
>groomed trails?  Will they have the same gliding sensation that the
>track skis do?  In wanting to ski these different terrains, is it
>possible to get one ski that works well in both, or do you really need
>two sets of skis (each tailored towards the specific terrain)?

Well, no I don't think those skis that wide will work very well in set
track (though I could be wrong).  It is possible to get a decent ski
that will work pretty well on track and off, though it will not do
really well at either.  The skis you had recommended to you sound like
they are at the pretty extreme end of the "off-track/backcountry" end.
There are skis, like the Rossignol LTS 49 (side cut of 59-49-54) as an
example, that would do reasonably well on track and off track.  Don't
expect them to do either extremely well though, and their bias is
towards the off-track environment.  BTW, I use the Rossis as an
example; I am most familiar with them and I presonally prefer
rossignol skis in general.  But other companies offer products that
may suit your needs better as several of them make skis of this type;
Fischer, Karhu, Kniessel, Atomic, Tua, etc, etc...

Look around some and rent some more skis and try them out.

Al Bowers

 
 
 

Equipment recommendations for backwoods and occasional groomed trails

Post by Michael Edelm » Tue, 19 Dec 1995 04:00:00

: Hi,

: My girlfriend, after much encouragement, rented some track skis last
: weekend, and had a wonderful time, and now wants to purchase skis.  We
: are confused about what "type" of ski to purchase.  We have several
: local conservation areas that are not groomed that we like to frequent.
: The track skis she rented (I have similar) were long and narrow, and
: while they were great on flat terrain, they were very awkward on hills
: and bumps.  Getting "away for the beaten path" is what we like to do,
: with occassional trips to the local resorts that have groomed trails.

: The local EMS (Nashua, NH) salesmen recommended that she buy a
: wider/shorter ski because of our emphasis on non-groomed areas.  We
: looked at a EMS Pioneer Bearclaw 65/55/60 160cm ski and a Karhu
: Pathfinder 70/60/55 160cm ski.  Are these skis also appropriate for
: groomed trails?  Will they have the same gliding sensation that the
: track skis do?  In wanting to ski these different terrains, is it
: possible to get one ski that works well in both, or do you really need
:
The Pathfinder is perhaps a tad wide...though most tracks can accomodate
it. It is an excellent off-track ski, turns easily, and has one of the
best no wax bases out there.

You won't get a kick-and-glide off track like to do on-track. At least, the
lead skier won't ;-). But you can get a nice stride going on well-skied areas,
old jeep trails, settled snow and some other conditions.

For years I skied everything on a pair of Asnes Turskis, 'cause that's all
there was. Tracks, trails, whatever. Good ol' 220cm wood skis. And I have
also skied my Epoke 1000s in and out of trails. They work decently both ways.
-
You'll find that a lot of good touring areas have a well-packed trail but no
set tracks. You can use just about any ski in those conditions.

-mike