Waxing N0-Wax skis

Waxing N0-Wax skis

Post by JFlana10 » Sat, 31 Jan 1998 04:00:00


I have a pair of Fischer E-99 Double crown N0-Wax skis and want to try waxing
the tips and tails this year.  I have used Swix F4 wax (paste) and maxiglide XC
the past two years and would like to see if regular Swix ski wax would provide
a little more speed.  I used some Swix red (30-36F) wax.  I cleaned the bases
of the ski's and then used an iron to apply the wax.  After applying the wax, I
waited and then used a scraper to remove the excess wax.  The wax in the tube
prior to applying has a sticky feel to it and after applying it the sticky feel
is still there.  How much of the wax do I remove?  Is the sticky base normal
with this type of wax or should I buff it down further?
Any information I can father on waxing would be appreciated since I have never
waxed ski's before.

Wally

 
 
 

Waxing N0-Wax skis

Post by Ilene Carpente » Sat, 31 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> I have a pair of Fischer E-99 Double crown N0-Wax skis and want to try waxing
> the tips and tails this year.  I have used Swix F4 wax (paste) and maxiglide XC
> the past two years and would like to see if regular Swix ski wax would provide
> a little more speed.  I used some Swix red (30-36F) wax.  I cleaned the bases
> of the ski's and then used an iron to apply the wax.  After applying the wax, I
> waited and then used a scraper to remove the excess wax.  The wax in the tube
> prior to applying has a sticky feel to it and after applying it the sticky feel
> is still there.  How much of the wax do I remove?  Is the sticky base normal
> with this type of wax or should I buff it down further?
> Any information I can father on waxing would be appreciated since I have never
> waxed ski's before.

> Wally

It sounds like you may have put kick wax on instead of glide wax.
Glide wax comes in small hard bars that aren't sticky.
Swix red kick wax comes in a small round container about 2.5"
high and maybe an inch in diameter. If you used kick wax you'll
definitely want to clean it all off and put on some glide wax.
See http://swixsport.com/nordicwax.html for product info and
http://www.xcskiworld.com/waxing.html for good instructions on
how to apply glide wax.

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Waxing N0-Wax skis

Post by Ralph » Sun, 01 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Could he have used klister? That would be sticky.

 
 
 

Waxing N0-Wax skis

Post by Carsten Muell » Sun, 01 Feb 1998 04:00:00

: I have a pair of Fischer E-99 Double crown N0-Wax skis and want to try waxing
: the tips and tails this year.  I have used Swix F4 wax (paste) and maxiglide XC
: the past two years and would like to see if regular Swix ski wax would provide
: a little more speed.  I used some Swix red (30-36F) wax.  I cleaned the bases
: of the ski's and then used an iron to apply the wax.  After applying the wax, I
: waited and then used a scraper to remove the excess wax.  The wax in the tube
: prior to applying has a sticky feel to it and after applying it the sticky feel
: is still there.  How much of the wax do I remove?  Is the sticky base normal
: with this type of wax or should I buff it down further?

It sounds like you used klister, a kick wax for icy and/or warm conditions.
If there's a glide wax that comes in a tube now, I'm not up to date. :)

Anyway about your Fischer E-99 dc, I wonder if you have problems with the
grip too. Provided we have the same or silmilar skis - I bought my Fischer
E-99 crown about 4 years ago, they are backcountry skis with steel egdges),
mine had a lousy "kick", so I started waxing the kick zone. It works perfectly!
I used all sorts of kick wax and I haven't had problems since. I assume you
wouldn't want to mess around with ordinary no-wax skis, but the fish scales
on my Fischers were so shallow (explaining the bad grip) that it is almost
like a smooth surface now, with wax filling the gaps in between the ripples.  
It works for on and off track recreational skiing (wouldn't recommend it for
racing though, if applicable at all).  

 
 
 

Waxing N0-Wax skis

Post by Ed Sawye » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>How much of the wax do I remove?  Is the sticky base normal
>with this type of wax or should I buff it down further?
>Any information I can father on waxing would be appreciated since I have never
>waxed ski's before.

For those interested in the answers to this and other waxing questions,
take a look at Swix's web site at http://www.swixsport.com/  

There's a ton of detailed wax info there, including how and where to
apply, info on the various Swix wax products and tools, most of the
content of their alpine and nordic technical manuals, and more.

A recent addition this season has been the Swix Wax Wizards, which
provide three levels (economy, mid-range, and speed at all costs) of wax
recommendations, based on environmental factors such as temperature,
humidity, and snow type that the user enters into a form.  Right now
there's a kick wax version and a glide wax version:

http://www.swixsport.com/waxwizard.html
http://www.swixsport.com/waxwizardkick.html

Take a look, give them a try and see what you think.

Thanks,

-Ed Sawyer
Swix www site designer

 
 
 

Waxing N0-Wax skis

Post by Ben Goett » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
> Anyway about your Fischer E-99 dc, I wonder if you have problems with the
> grip too. [...] the fish scales
> on my Fischers were so shallow (explaining the bad grip)

I have been told that the E-99 - at least the Mountain Crown variant -
has a slightly concave base.  If this is so, then the poor grip in an icy
track comes from the ski resting on its metal edges.  Skate city.

My Fischers have a fine grip on anything other than a worn-smooth, icy
surface (such as you'll find in a well-skiied track at 1 degree C).