>> > I am 6'2" 230lbs and I usually ski East Coast, but I do plan
>> >to make some West Coast Trips. Overall, it seems like what everybody
>> WAAAYYYYY TOO LONGGGGGG.....!!!!!!
>> At the very MOST, get a 175cm, probably the best choice
>> Now, do you really want a pair of skis so damn long?
>I gotta ask - RW, if Salomon is making a 192cm X10 (which I don't
>really know), and given that this guy is 6'2" 230lbs and you say he
>should be on a 180cm ski, then who in the world is George Salomon's
>company making this 192 ski for? Ski folks don't really come much
>bigger than 6'2" 230lbs.
>(He says he's basically a beginner, but for this question assume he's
>really an expert skier.)
>So, is Salomon just *** out a bunch of 192s with no intention of
>selling them? What do you think?
Clearly, George is making skis for retro-grouches like you.
But seriously, and I'm almost serious with the snappy
comeback above. People, especially expert skiers are usually
very conservative in the evolution of their ski equipment.
This post and others by you and by other experts tends to
support this hypothesis. Doesn't it?
I have worked in recent years in ski shops, I have three ski
shop owners as regular clients for my design business. I get
to try a lot of stuff. Also, very probably, if I had learned
to ski IN deep snow as I understand you do, I would probably
like long skinny board for it. But I didn't. We barely have
deep snow around here, so cheating and skiing up on top with
short wide boards is what I do when I encounter anything more
than 6 inches deep. I'm also gettin along in years. As an
earlier post in this thread stated, I've been at it for
50 years. And I didn't start as a baby.
I loaned the short Blizzards to a friend of mine who is
a 5'5" woman who normally skis 190cm SnowRangers. She
loved 'em but her comment was that she felt she was cheating.
Yeah, so am I, no question, but by "cheating" I can ski
8 hours straight, on EasternFirm(tm) and go back and do
it again next day, at 60 years old.
The following is my journey to short skis. I didn't always
ski them, in fact, back in the 60's I generally skied 215cm
skis. In the mid 70's my wife got a pair of K2 Bermuda Shorts
in 160cm. These were too much for her. She should have gotten
something much softer. I took them out, liked them for some
things but they weren't too stable and anything like speed,
so I stuck with my 200cm to 205cm skis that I was usually
on. I took the K2's out again in the early 90's with MUCH
better boots than I had 15 years before, and liked them
for bump runs, which I normally avoided like the plague on
my longer skis. Otherwise, speed still wasn't too good.
The first year I considered shaped skis, I had tried a pair
of Elans and loved them. I decided to buy a pair of good shaped
skis. I chose Rossi Cut 9.9 Super in 189cm. I wasn't absolutely
sure that I'd like these for most/all conditions, so being an
GS ski skier, I also bought a pair of Volkl P20's in 205cm.
To make a long story short, I only skied the Volkl's 4 or 5
times and the dealer was good enough to take them back and put
them on his used demo rack and I ended up paying nothing.
This in 96-97.
Then I got a pair of Elan PSX tsi's, on which I put a
20mm riser to get up into nosebleed country. What a pair of
cruisers those were. They are still on my ski rack.
Next, after skiing a pair of REALLY short REALLY shaped
Elans with Peter Kidd, who showed me how to dig trenches, I
bought a pair of Salomon AxeCleavers. One size only 152cm.
Came with a hangl plate. Got them for Euro-style carving.
Found that they did EVERYTHING (except maybe deep powder)
very well. They became my "everyday" skis. After 3 years
the skis are still OK and will become my "house" skis
with rental type bindings. Most people, from strong beginners
to pretty much top experts can have a lot of fun on them.
The hangl plate, BTW has a reverse camber.
My current (or rather next year's) skis are 165cm Blizzard
FR22 Free-Ride skis. Really neat, a stronger than
the little Salomons, they push back more stongly when pushed.
So here I am, generally advocating shorter lengths, especially
in the Free-Ride style of ski.
Hey, maybe our buddy Alby is getting such a good deal on these
skis BECAUSE they are 192cm, and the store is stuck with them.
RW (God, that was long answer)