Roller Skiing, and Link to Every Currently Made Roller Ski ?

Roller Skiing, and Link to Every Currently Made Roller Ski ?

Post by Gary Jacobso » Sun, 01 Apr 2007 12:39:58


Not that I am necessarily training for next year, but I took a roll on a
recently acquired pair of Pro-ski Varios. Does anyone know if these are the
same as C-2 roller skis?  I didn't like them very much. Cloddy feeling. The
V-2 Jenex 900 series seem more snow like to me, and are easier to control. I
like to register first impressions, and the C-2 (which I have messed around
with in years past) were not impressive. In time I'll probably get used to
them and like them, but I can't imagine why someone would choose them over
900 series. Maybe it's just that I've so much time on 920s.

Anyway, I think this list is the most comprehensive one I have ever seen:
http://www.skiroll.it/attrezzi/costruttori_skiroll.htm  .  Check out the
skirol site for what appears to be a classic race ski with a clutch wheel
near by to underfoot. Seems like there are more manufacturers than ever. If
there are companies and models (not just re-branded) you know about and that
are not here, let us know.

I think that the 30 and 50 km classic Nationals are in Fort Kent this
weekend, and there's still plenty of snow at my favorite ski joints within
three hours of here. But it's time to put my snow skis to sleep for the off
season.

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY

 
 
 

Roller Skiing, and Link to Every Currently Made Roller Ski ?

Post by Jan Gerrit Klo » Sun, 01 Apr 2007 21:58:22

Were these on there?
http://www.crossskiroller.de/
www.skike.at

I see most Roller Ski sites are still suffering from the many words - tiny
pics virus of 90's internet...

Those that like Roller Skis will also be intrigued by :
http://nordic.powerslide.de/

and of course :
K2 Nordic, for which I can't find a manufacturer's site
http://www.rollsport.de/product_info.php?products_id=1471



Quote:
> Not that I am necessarily training for next year, but I took a roll on a
> recently acquired pair of Pro-ski Varios. Does anyone know if these are
the
> same as C-2 roller skis?  I didn't like them very much. Cloddy feeling.
The
> V-2 Jenex 900 series seem more snow like to me, and are easier to control.
I
> like to register first impressions, and the C-2 (which I have messed
around
> with in years past) were not impressive. In time I'll probably get used to
> them and like them, but I can't imagine why someone would choose them over
> 900 series. Maybe it's just that I've so much time on 920s.

> Anyway, I think this list is the most comprehensive one I have ever seen:
> http://www.skiroll.it/attrezzi/costruttori_skiroll.htm  .  Check out the
> skirol site for what appears to be a classic race ski with a clutch wheel
> near by to underfoot. Seems like there are more manufacturers than ever.
If
> there are companies and models (not just re-branded) you know about and
that
> are not here, let us know.

> I think that the 30 and 50 km classic Nationals are in Fort Kent this
> weekend, and there's still plenty of snow at my favorite ski joints within
> three hours of here. But it's time to put my snow skis to sleep for the
off
> season.

> Gary Jacobson
> Rosendale, NY


 
 
 

Roller Skiing, and Link to Every Currently Made Roller Ski ?

Post by ro.. » Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:45:29

Thanks for posting this.  What a wonderland of rollerskis!  Wouldn't
it be fun to try them all.  There's so much more than what makes the
States and such a wide variation in prices (and taxes).  Wish I read
German for some of these. Wandering around..  Bjorn Daehlie and Ole
Einar Bj?rndalen endorse Rolec. Dynasport has great photos of Lotte
Str?m Solli and a double wheel front-and-back classical ski (NRC
classic, photos at
http://www.dynasports.com/prissider/nrc-testing.htm). They're short. Do
you think that forces a distortion in back leg swing for taller
skiers?  Skirol by G. Obermaier has a long classical model with an
extra wheel in the middle.  Marwe lists the 610 with a 105mm wheel. Is
that a typo?  Wild Force (what a name!) has a nice write-up in English
about the history and benefits of rollerskiing (What roller skies are?)
and an instructional guide for learning how to classical rollerski,
translated from a Russian or Ukranian guide into English. Were it
translated better, it would be a fine beginner's reference.  

rm

Quote:

>Not that I am necessarily training for next year, but I took a roll on
>a recently acquired pair of Pro-ski Varios. Does anyone know if these
>are the same as C-2 roller skis?  I didn't like them very much. Cloddy
>feeling. The V-2 Jenex 900 series seem more snow like to me, and are
>easier to control. I like to register first impressions, and the C-2
>(which I have messed around with in years past) were not impressive.
>In time I'll probably get used to them and like them, but I can't
>imagine why someone would choose them over 900 series. Maybe it's just
>that I've so much time on 920s.

>Anyway, I think this list is the most comprehensive one I have ever
>seen: http://www.skiroll.it/attrezzi/costruttori_skiroll.htm  .  Check
>out the skirol site for what appears to be a classic race ski with a
>clutch wheel near by to underfoot. Seems like there are more
>manufacturers than ever. If there are companies and models (not just
>re-branded) you know about and that are not here, let us know.

>I think that the 30 and 50 km classic Nationals are in Fort Kent this
>weekend, and there's still plenty of snow at my favorite ski joints
>within three hours of here. But it's time to put my snow skis to sleep
>for the off season.

>Gary Jacobson
>Rosendale, NY


 
 
 

Roller Skiing, and Link to Every Currently Made Roller Ski ?

Post by Gary Jacobso » Sun, 01 Apr 2007 23:07:16


Thanks for posting this.  What a wonderland of rollerskis!  Wouldn't
it be fun to try them all.

Yes. I think that roller skis and b icycles are really neat. The thing with
roller skis is that any one with a machine shop and an idea can give it a
whirl. I've owned many roller skis, but I'm thankfully losing ground on the
idea that I could have experience with a majority of them.

 There's so much more than what makes the
States and such a wide variation in prices (and taxes).  Wish I read
German for some of these. Wandering around..  Bjorn Daehlie and Ole
Einar Bj?rndalen endorse Rolec. Dynasport has great photos of Lotte
Str?m Solli and a double wheel front-and-back classical ski (NRC
classic, photos at
http://www.dynasports.com/prissider/nrc-testing.htm). They're short. Do
you think that forces a distortion in back leg swing for taller
skiers?

I thought about that too. I think long clessic roller skis are far better. I
think that the front wheel should remain on the ground at all times, and
that doesn't happend with short roller skis.

 Skirol by G. Obermaier has a long classical model with an
extra wheel in the middle.  Marwe lists the 610 with a 105mm wheel. Is
that a typo?  Wild Force (what a name!) has a nice write-up in English
about the history and benefits of rollerskiing (What roller skies are?)
and an instructional guide for learning how to classical rollerski,
translated from a Russian or Ukranian guide into English. Were it
translated better, it would be a fine beginner's reference.

rm

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY

Quote:

>Not that I am necessarily training for next year, but I took a roll on
>a recently acquired pair of Pro-ski Varios. Does anyone know if these
>are the same as C-2 roller skis?  I didn't like them very much. Cloddy
>feeling. The V-2 Jenex 900 series seem more snow like to me, and are
>easier to control. I like to register first impressions, and the C-2
>(which I have messed around with in years past) were not impressive.
>In time I'll probably get used to them and like them, but I can't
>imagine why someone would choose them over 900 series. Maybe it's just
>that I've so much time on 920s.

>Anyway, I think this list is the most comprehensive one I have ever
>seen: http://www.skiroll.it/attrezzi/costruttori_skiroll.htm  .  Check
>out the skirol site for what appears to be a classic race ski with a
>clutch wheel near by to underfoot. Seems like there are more
>manufacturers than ever. If there are companies and models (not just
>re-branded) you know about and that are not here, let us know.

>I think that the 30 and 50 km classic Nationals are in Fort Kent this
>weekend, and there's still plenty of snow at my favorite ski joints
>within three hours of here. But it's time to put my snow skis to sleep
>for the off season.

>Gary Jacobson
>Rosendale, NY

 
 
 

Roller Skiing, and Link to Every Currently Made Roller Ski ?

Post by John Forrest Tomlinso » Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:32:20

Quote:

> Wild Force (what a name!) has a nice write-up in English
>about the history and benefits of rollerskiing (What roller skies are?)
>and an instructional guide for learning how to classical rollerski,
>translated from a Russian or Ukranian guide into English. Were it
>translated better, it would be a fine beginner's reference.  

Yeah, cool name.

This is wild
http://www.wildforce.com.ua/images/giulio_de_florian.jpg

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Post by runcyclexc.. » Mon, 02 Apr 2007 08:30:46

These look like they have bicycle type breaks.

http://www.crossskiroller.de/

I've had that idea long ago, and I know a guy in Russia who made a
rollerski ski with caliper breaks. I don't read German though. I will
contact them to see if they can send me a brochure.

 
 
 

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Post by ro.. » Mon, 02 Apr 2007 11:56:05

They also have a front wheel extender, like the Marwe.  I couldn't find
any clear photos, just what's on the main page.
Quote:

>These look like they have bicycle type breaks.

>http://www.crossskiroller.de/

>I've had that idea long ago, and I know a guy in Russia who made a
>rollerski ski with caliper breaks. I don't read German though. I will
>contact them to see if they can send me a brochure.

 
 
 

Roller Skiing, and Link to Every Currently Made Roller Ski ?

Post by runcyclexc.. » Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:52:50

I've emailed them, let's see what they say
 
 
 

Roller Skiing, and Link to Every Currently Made Roller Ski ?

Post by Jan Gerrit Klo » Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:31:36

In this sport, what's with the tiny blurry pics but super-elaborate
pricelist to the detail of bolt washers? Engineers doing the marketing?



Quote:
> They also have a front wheel extender, like the Marwe.  I couldn't find
> any clear photos, just what's on the main page.


> >These look like they have bicycle type breaks.

> >http://www.crossskiroller.de/

> >I've had that idea long ago, and I know a guy in Russia who made a
> >rollerski ski with caliper breaks. I don't read German though. I will
> >contact them to see if they can send me a brochure.

 
 
 

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Post by cpell » Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:27:57

I have a pair of the Pro-Skis and you are right... they are quite
unwieldy. They are fine for double-pole training, so if you are
training for the Vasa Loppet, they would be good . They weigh alot
more than my skis, and the weight is distributed over a smaller
length. It seems to me that if you want classic rollerskis to do
diagonal stride the best ones would be the lightest so the swing
weight doesn't become an issue so you can concentrate on timing and
body position. I think the Ski Skett Nords may be the lightest, from
the limited information I could find on the net. If I get another pair
of classic rollerskis that's what I would get.

Chris

 
 
 

Roller Skiing, and Link to Every Currently Made Roller Ski ?

Post by ro.. » Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:19:47

This is one of those subjects where maybe size matters. I've known
Pro-Ski users who love them, and I once used them myself, but I can't
think of anyone under 5'9" or 5'10".  Which isn't to say there aren't
any out there.  Maybe there's a threshold where ski weight loses
importance for each individual. Is there really a significant
difference between a V2 900 model, a Marwe combi with the wire wheel
attachment, or a Ski Skett Nord other than length?  

rm

Quote:

>I have a pair of the Pro-Skis and you are right... they are quite
>unwieldy. They are fine for double-pole training, so if you are
>training for the Vasa Loppet, they would be good . They weigh alot
>more than my skis, and the weight is distributed over a smaller
>length. It seems to me that if you want classic rollerskis to do
>diagonal stride the best ones would be the lightest so the swing
>weight doesn't become an issue so you can concentrate on timing and
>body position. I think the Ski Skett Nords may be the lightest, from
>the limited information I could find on the net. If I get another pair
>of classic rollerskis that's what I would get.

>Chris

 
 
 

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Post by ronb.. » Tue, 03 Apr 2007 05:31:19

On Mar 31, 7:58 am, "Jan Gerrit Klok"

Quote:

> and of course :
> K2 Nordic, for which I can't find a manufacturer's sitehttp://SportToday.org/

These K2 Nordic Inline skates intrigue me. Seems like they have ***
wheels instead of urathane and resitance bearings to make them slower
than regular inlines. Has anybody tried these?

I know roller skis are a more ideal choice than inline skates, but
I've never been able to get comfortable on roller skis. To many bad
crashes I guess. These K2 nordic inlines might be worth a try.

 
 
 

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Post by John Forrest Tomlinso » Tue, 03 Apr 2007 05:42:31


Quote:
>On Mar 31, 7:58 am, "Jan Gerrit Klok"

>> and of course :
>> K2 Nordic, for which I can't find a manufacturer's sitehttp://SportToday.org/

>These K2 Nordic Inline skates intrigue me. Seems like they have ***
>wheels instead of urathane and resitance bearings to make them slower
>than regular inlines. Has anybody tried these?

>I know roller skis are a more ideal choice than inline skates, but
>I've never been able to get comfortable on roller skis. To many bad
>crashes I guess. These K2 nordic inlines might be worth a try.

I haven't use those but do inline skate with poles and two of Jenex's
Carbonics *** wheels on each skate to slow things down.   The speed
of the skates is slow enough that it's like fast snow, which is OK for
fitness training.

But I don't get the technique benefits of rollerskiing with them.
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Post by ro.. » Tue, 03 Apr 2007 07:12:32

Do you think if it were slow enough, meaning you could stay on the
skate long enough to be more like skiing, it would work better?

John Forrest Tomlinson

Quote:


>>On Mar 31, 7:58 am, "Jan Gerrit Klok"

>>> and of course :
>>> K2 Nordic, for which I can't find a manufacturer's
>>> sitehttp://SportToday.org/

>>These K2 Nordic Inline skates intrigue me. Seems like they have ***
>>wheels instead of urathane and resitance bearings to make them slower
>>than regular inlines. Has anybody tried these?

>>I know roller skis are a more ideal choice than inline skates, but
>>I've never been able to get comfortable on roller skis. To many bad
>>crashes I guess. These K2 nordic inlines might be worth a try.

>I haven't use those but do inline skate with poles and two of Jenex's
>Carbonics *** wheels on each skate to slow things down.   The speed
>of the skates is slow enough that it's like fast snow, which is OK for
>fitness training.

>But I don't get the technique benefits of rollerskiing with them.
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Post by John Forrest Tomlinso » Tue, 03 Apr 2007 07:28:24

Quote:

> Do you think if it were slow enough,
> meaning you could stay on the
> skate long enough to be more like
> skiing, it would work better?

I'm not sure what you mean. I can stay on one leg on inline skates for
a long time -- much longer than on skis.  The balance is very easy.

The problem for technique, as I see it, is that the balance is too
easy, plus it's harder to get my weight really forward with the
skates.

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