by Noah » Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:37:09
For training during the summer (HS), my X-C recomended we follow Jack
Daniels' Running formula and gave us some info on it. I was wondering what
everyone's opinnion on it is? Keep in mind that I'm not (and most of my
team isn't) at such a eleet level that his training is too easy.
Noah
PS- does anyone know a sight where his whole program is listed for varying
abilities? thanks
by SwStudi » Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:32:07
I guess what I'm trying to say is that yes, he is a good
coach and it's a good book - obviously there are many
other good books and methods that are just as good. If
your coach likes Daniels and it works for you, why not?
Buy the book rather than try to find fragments of the
schedules online - his insights and little "bios" of all
sorts of runners scattered throughout really make it
a complete package.
Good luck!
--
David (in Hamilton, Ont)
"You can't burn out if you've never caught fire."
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html
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> For training during the summer (HS), my X-C recomended we follow Jack
> Daniels' Running formula and gave us some info on it. I was wondering what
> everyone's opinnion on it is? Keep in mind that I'm not (and most of my
> team isn't) at such a eleet level that his training is too easy.
> Noah
> PS- does anyone know a sight where his whole program is listed for varying
> abilities? thanks
by Steve Freide » Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:36:36
The criticism it receives is that it attempts to be more specific about
certain things like exactly what speed one should train at than is
needed. I don't think following the advice in the book will hurt anyone
and it, along with all the good advice I received on this newsgroup,
helped me a lot.
-S-
> Hey everyone,
> For training during the summer (HS), my X-C recomended we follow Jack
> Daniels' Running formula and gave us some info on it. I was wondering what
> everyone's opinnion on it is? Keep in mind that I'm not (and most of my
> team isn't) at such a eleet level that his training is too easy.
> Noah
> PS- does anyone know a sight where his whole program is listed for varying
> abilities? thanks
by Daniel Pierre-Antoin » Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:31:15
I've read the book and found the explanation of the rationale behind
each type of training useful. However, when it comes to the actual
programmes he lays out in chapters on different race distances, I get
pretty confused and I can't discern the logic he's following. As regards
his VDOT, I found that in my case it corresponds well to my target
training intensities. In the end, from _Daniels' Running Formula_, I
took only 2 elements: 1) VDOT; and 2) Cruise intervals (long intervals
at threshold pace), which I did to work up to straight threshold runs.
The book that I enjoyed reading the most was Bob Glover's _The
Competitive Runner's Handbook_.
Hope this helps,
Daniel
> Hey everyone,
> For training during the summer (HS), my X-C recomended we follow Jack
> Daniels' Running formula and gave us some info on it. I was wondering what
> everyone's opinnion on it is? Keep in mind that I'm not (and most of my
> team isn't) at such a eleet level that his training is too easy.
> Noah
> PS- does anyone know a sight where his whole program is listed for varying
> abilities? thanks
by Josef Makow » Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:54:36
Off topic:
For me as a 52-years old guy who is steadily slowing down (40 min
down for half marathon in 11 years) the bread and butter of training
is long runs, tempo runs with HRM, easy runs, strides, some
"spontanous" hills and easy fartlek (I live in Sweden ;-)). Also I
only run every other day - always did)
/ / & Josef
by Kerry Wilso » Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:58:45
I stand by my opinion -- no sprinting = loss of leg speed.
by Michael Gagliard » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:15:25
> I stand by my opinion -- no sprinting = loss of leg speed.
Mike
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by Mark Berglu » Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:45:42
by George Thie » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 03:39:05
Thank or your input.
George
> I guess what I'm trying to say is that yes, he is a good
> coach and it's a good book - obviously there are many
> other good books and methods that are just as good. If
> your coach likes Daniels and it works for you, why not?
> Buy the book rather than try to find fragments of the
> schedules online - his insights and little "bios" of all
> sorts of runners scattered throughout really make it
> a complete package.
> Good luck!
> --
> David (in Hamilton, Ont)
> "You can't burn out if you've never caught fire."
> http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html
> -
> > Hey everyone,
> > For training during the summer (HS), my X-C recomended we follow Jack
> > Daniels' Running formula and gave us some info on it. I was wondering what
> > everyone's opinnion on it is? Keep in mind that I'm not (and most of my
> > team isn't) at such a eleet level that his training is too easy.
> > Noah
> > PS- does anyone know a sight where his whole program is listed for varying
> > abilities? thanks
by Robert E. Reynold » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 04:23:39
> Thank or your input.
> George
> > Jack Daniels is a very smart coach with some good, sound
> > training methods. The book you mention is very popular,
> > and the training programs involved inside are as good as
> > any other.
> > I guess what I'm trying to say is that yes, he is a good
> > coach and it's a good book - obviously there are many
> > other good books and methods that are just as good. If
> > your coach likes Daniels and it works for you, why not?
> > Buy the book rather than try to find fragments of the
> > schedules online - his insights and little "bios" of all
> > sorts of runners scattered throughout really make it
> > a complete package.
> > Good luck!
> > --
> > David (in Hamilton, Ont)
> > "You can't burn out if you've never caught fire."
> > http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html
> > -
> > > For training during the summer (HS), my X-C recommended we follow Jack
> > > Daniels' Running formula and gave us some info on it. I was wondering
what
> > > everyone's opinion on it is? Keep in mind that I'm not (and most of
my
> > > team isn't) at such a elite level that his training is too easy.
> > > Noah
> > > PS- does anyone know a sight where his whole program is listed for
varying
> > > abilities? thanks
by Michele Simar » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:04:03
> Hi folks,
> Speaking of JD's training programs. I was curious how older runners (33+)
> adjust the programs given in his book. Do you all try to do
> 2-3 quality sessions and a long run each week?
> When I was in really great shape (for me), I could do a tempo run, two track sessions and
> a long run a week Now that I'm a few years older, I was wondering
> what modifications the "older" crowd might make.
> Thank or your input.
> George
> > Jack Daniels is a very smart coach with some good, sound
> > training methods. The book you mention is very popular,
> > and the training programs involved inside are as good as
> > any other.
> > I guess what I'm trying to say is that yes, he is a good
> > coach and it's a good book - obviously there are many
> > other good books and methods that are just as good. If
> > your coach likes Daniels and it works for you, why not?
> > Buy the book rather than try to find fragments of the
> > schedules online - his insights and little "bios" of all
> > sorts of runners scattered throughout really make it
> > a complete package.
> > Good luck!
> > --
> > David (in Hamilton, Ont)
> > "You can't burn out if you've never caught fire."
> > http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html
> > -
> > > Hey everyone,
> > > For training during the summer (HS), my X-C recomended we follow Jack
> > > Daniels' Running formula and gave us some info on it. I was wondering what
> > > everyone's opinnion on it is? Keep in mind that I'm not (and most of my
> > > team isn't) at such a eleet level that his training is too easy.
> > > Noah
> > > PS- does anyone know a sight where his whole program is listed for varying
> > > abilities? thanks
by Daniel Pierre-Antoin » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:35:48
> I didn't realize the "older crowd" included people in their 30's. I just
> turned 34 so now you just depressed me. :) Here I was thinking I was
> still young. Oh well, guess it's time to pick out my plot and casket.
> :(
> > Hi folks,
> > Speaking of JD's training programs. I was curious how older runners (33+)
> > adjust the programs given in his book. Do you all try to do
> > 2-3 quality sessions and a long run each week?
> > When I was in really great shape (for me), I could do a tempo run, two track sessions and
> > a long run a week Now that I'm a few years older, I was wondering
> > what modifications the "older" crowd might make.
> > Thank or your input.
> > George
> > > Jack Daniels is a very smart coach with some good, sound
> > > training methods. The book you mention is very popular,
> > > and the training programs involved inside are as good as
> > > any other.
> > > I guess what I'm trying to say is that yes, he is a good
> > > coach and it's a good book - obviously there are many
> > > other good books and methods that are just as good. If
> > > your coach likes Daniels and it works for you, why not?
> > > Buy the book rather than try to find fragments of the
> > > schedules online - his insights and little "bios" of all
> > > sorts of runners scattered throughout really make it
> > > a complete package.
> > > Good luck!
> > > --
> > > David (in Hamilton, Ont)
> > > "You can't burn out if you've never caught fire."
> > > http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html
> > > -
> > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > For training during the summer (HS), my X-C recomended we follow Jack
> > > > Daniels' Running formula and gave us some info on it. I was wondering what
> > > > everyone's opinnion on it is? Keep in mind that I'm not (and most of my
> > > > team isn't) at such a eleet level that his training is too easy.
> > > > Noah
> > > > PS- does anyone know a sight where his whole program is listed for varying
> > > > abilities? thanks
by Denny Anders » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:29:15
Denny - except a new AGE group looming; matters!
>> I didn't realize the "older crowd" included people in their 30's. I just
>> turned 34 so now you just depressed me. :) Here I was thinking I was
>> still young. Oh well, guess it's time to pick out my plot and casket.
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