> >One of the level routes was 8 miles and I walked it fast. Another was
> >a slope that I had run when I a bit younger, which takes one
> >up a bit over additional 1000 feet. Not strolls. Anyway, I
> > running these days.
> Are you only doing 8 miles out of the gate? Do you vary you distance and
> effort. Maybe 8 is too much for your baseline and you body is reacting and
> why you need MSM.
No no. That is what I was doing at times when I had to quit running
back in the day.
These days I run between 1.5 to 5 miles during the spring I was
> >Hmm.................lab test? That is one I've never seen on a
> metabolic panel. I am not a vegan, I eat my share of eggs.
> High in sulfur contain AAs though loaded inflammatory FAs
> specifically arachidonic acid. Which does bring to mind,
> that sometimes I've dropped most of eggs and red meat and
> chose more fish instead.>
> No shingle*** here but would suggest at your next checkup to explain to
> you vet what is happening and that MSM seems to help. Maybe there is some
> indirect relation with other minerals like K etc.
> > I suppose we could argue the science of your glucosamine
> supplement ;-) Though I ruled it out by way of personal
> empirics not studies indicating mix or ineffective results.>
> I don't buy that glucosamine does jack with cartilage which was the original
> claim. It is a very mild anti-inflammatory, way less harsh than any NSAID. I
> have no idea if it doing anything but after 10 years I know it's not doing
> anything bad. Many of my runs are 4-8 hours with thousands of feet in
> elevation so I dont feel anti-inflammatory is doing anything wrong. If
> it's doing nothing well, it's only a few cents.
The concern with glucosamine is that it may raise *** glucose
levels. Which one of the issues that pushes me to run, besides
from the fact I feel vastly better and regular
running totally controls postural/orthostatic
> > Sure. I figured its inflammatory. It maybe a bit arthritis.
> I seem to be able to control it, when I use enough interventions.
> I do know not to use the standard NSAIDs, they ruin joints and
> GI tracts.>
> The question de jour, is the inflammation from doing too much or something
> missing? Yes a steady diet of NSAIDs can be dangerous.
Possibly too much polyunsaturated FA's with a dash of autoimmunity?
Aleve or similar would have me doubled over inside a couple of days.
> I haven't looked yet.
> > I am impressed.
> Not bragging just to say age has some limiting factors, especially speed,
> but doesn't negate distance or elevation if approached slowly.
> > # Seven years behind but I gaining...............Trig
> > And I'm slowing and easy pickin's.
> > Both of us. I am trying to get fast enough to
> keep up with the older guy this spring on the local track.
> He going to the gym/fitness center. I think his
> regimen must be excellent.>
> Sounds like he has a well mapped out program and likely contains diversity,
> i.e cross training, maybe cross dressing. One of reasons I was trying
> understand your regime was to see if it made proper training sense. To only
> discuss the problem with a long run is a needle in the arse, it hurts, but
> dont know why. The haystack analogy is too boring. ;)
I agree with you, I need a more varied program. For awhile I was just
distance running and the results were 'OK' but funny.
Everything became an 8 minute
mile, run a mile, 8 minutes, run 5 miles, 40 minutes, run 8 miles, 64 minutes.
The year before with a varied pace of runs, I was doing better at
least the 3 mile mark with fairly regular 20 minute runs or faster.
So I am starting hill runs as part of regimen. I do some weight lifting
and some stuff on a pool mat. A thick pool side mat is vastly better than
an a foam exercise mat as sold in the local MegloMart. The upper body
is what's worn out on this man. What I do with should be call physical
therapy with the upper body. This year I did to physical jobs more
suitable to a 20 year old just out of boot camp; just doing what
I have to do in work and on the track when I have the time and
> Among the repartee, I was trying to be helpful.
The varied exercise point is a good one, and you reinforced
the point by your success. It matches what I observed.
Now to focus the mind and keep at it.