NYC Marathon training problems

NYC Marathon training problems

Post by Steve Shattuc » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00


I'm currently running about 40 miles a week and biking about 80.  I have
been running about 5 times a week, ranging from 5 miles to 18 miles per
run.  This last weekend I was scheduled to run 20 miles but ran out of gas
about 13 miles in and walked/ran the last 4.5 miles, never making the 20.
This is kind of scary to me as the NYC is coming soon.  When we started out
on our long run, the temp was about 75 and the humidity was about 100%.  I
always sweat alot but this day I was absolutly drenched after the first few
miles.  I've had some great 10 and 15 mile runs with out breaking down.
I'm wondering how much the heat and humidity affects a bodies ability to
run and how much did it affect my run?  Eventually I would lilke to break 4
hours on a marathon and after that qualify for Boston, but at this point I
simply want to get through my next marathon, and feel ok.  Not great, just
ok.  I thought my  current training regimen would help me out in this quest
 but since I  had the terrible run this last weekend, I'm beginning to have
my doubts of my ability.
Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
 
 
 

NYC Marathon training problems

Post by Kovie Ada » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Same problems here. I'm training for the NYC Marathon too, my first
marathon. While I haven't quite gotten up to 40, I've been averaging 30-36 5
days a week for the past 6 weeks, with a couple of 20-milers, and with some
easy biking on rest days. And as the saying goes, it's not the heat, it's
the humidity. 100% humidity at any temperature be it 40 or 100 is horrible.
I'd rather run 20 miles on an 80 degree day with the humidity down in the
40's than 10 miles on a 70 degree day with 90-100% humidity. It's extremely
taxing, I find it a struggle to keep running, and my pace drops a minute or
more. It's on days like these, such as this past Sunday, that make me wonder
if it's worth it. But I know that it is, and even if I have to walk the last
few miles I intend to finish.

The fact that you've been able to do as much as 18 miles seems to indicate
that you can do the marathon. You should try to do 1 or 2 20-mile runs in
the next few weeks. There's one this coming weekend sponsored by the NYRRC,
as you probably know. As for the humidity, my personal feeling is that once
it gets past a certain percentage, there's no point in going too long, and
it might even do you some harm. Try to go long on less humid days. Also, you
might want to reconsider cutting back on the cycling a bit as 80 seems a bit
high for someone who's running 40 miles/5 times a week, especially if most
of it is on non-running days. This might be excessively draining your
energy. It's hard to disciple oneself to not overtrain, and you have to be
careful about this or you'll burn out or get sick or injured. You need those
easy or rest days.

Good luck with the marathon as see you there!

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Quote:
>I'm currently running about 40 miles a week and biking about 80.  I have
>been running about 5 times a week, ranging from 5 miles to 18 miles per
>run.  This last weekend I was scheduled to run 20 miles but ran out of gas
>about 13 miles in and walked/ran the last 4.5 miles, never making the 20.
>This is kind of scary to me as the NYC is coming soon.  When we started out
>on our long run, the temp was about 75 and the humidity was about 100%.  I
>always sweat alot but this day I was absolutly drenched after the first few
>miles.  I've had some great 10 and 15 mile runs with out breaking down.
>I'm wondering how much the heat and humidity affects a bodies ability to
>run and how much did it affect my run?  Eventually I would lilke to break 4
>hours on a marathon and after that qualify for Boston, but at this point I
>simply want to get through my next marathon, and feel ok.  Not great, just
>ok.  I thought my  current training regimen would help me out in this quest
> but since I  had the terrible run this last weekend, I'm beginning to have
>my doubts of my ability.
>Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.


 
 
 

NYC Marathon training problems

Post by Tim Bache » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Steve

Hang in there and do not get discouraged.  I did a long training run this past
weekend for the NY marathon as well.  With the heat/humidity we had here on
Long Island last weekend it was no picnic.  Try agin in two weeks and I'll bet
your long run will go much easier.

T minus five weeks and counting. Just think, only two more weeks of heavy
training and then its time for the taper.

Hope to see you at the start!

Tim

 
 
 

NYC Marathon training problems

Post by Mike Tenne » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

>I'm currently running about 40 miles a week and biking about 80.  I have
>been running about 5 times a week, ranging from 5 miles to 18 miles per
>run.  This last weekend I was scheduled to run 20 miles but ran out of gas
>about 13 miles in and walked/ran the last 4.5 miles, never making the 20.
>This is kind of scary to me as the NYC is coming soon.  When we started out
>on our long run, the temp was about 75 and the humidity was about 100%.  I
>always sweat alot but this day I was absolutly drenched after the first few
>miles.  I've had some great 10 and 15 mile runs with out breaking down.

Don't let one bad workout - which was caused by the heat - get you down. Learn
from it (slow down and drink more in those conditions) and carry on. Your
training sounds good.

Mike Tennent
"TriBop"
'98 Ironman Canada, 16:17:03

 
 
 

NYC Marathon training problems

Post by cajunm » Thu, 01 Oct 1998 04:00:00

don't fret.  everyone has a bad day.  i've done the same just to come
back a day or two later & get my long run in w/ no problems.  just
remember to eat right & stay hydrated at least 2 days prior to your
long run & you'll come back strong!
cajunman
 
 
 

NYC Marathon training problems

Post by RINGI » Thu, 01 Oct 1998 04:00:00

You will be fine.   I planed on running 20 on Sunday and stopped at 13 miles.
I felt great today and WILL run  20 this Saturday.  See you on Nov 1.

Michael Ring

 
 
 

NYC Marathon training problems

Post by cindy alvar » Thu, 01 Oct 1998 04:00:00

to the giant emperor penguin, who stood awaiting an answer, (Steve Shattuck) said:
: I'm currently running about 40 miles a week and biking about 80.  I have

: on our long run, the temp was about 75 and the humidity was about 100%.  I
: always sweat alot but this day I was absolutly drenched after the first few
: miles.  I've had some great 10 and 15 mile runs with out breaking down.
: I'm wondering how much the heat and humidity affects a bodies ability to
: run and how much did it affect my run?  Eventually I would lilke to break 4

Heat affects me a -lot-.  (training through boston summer = not fun)

also keep in mind that your body doesn't "know" how many miles you're
running -- what it knows is how long you've been going + how dehydrated
you are + if you were stressed that day + if you got enough sleep the
night before + did you eat properly.

a few months back, when I was just making the transition from 10 to 12-mile
runs, I had one day where I planned on running 12.  I went out there,
it was hot and humid, I tried to stop for water when I could but I just
didn't have enough, and I felt horrid.  I turned back early and the run
turned out to be only 10 miles.  

However, I figured that my body had gone through an experience equivalent
to "running 12 miles on a good day".  and I was right: the next time
I tried to run 12 miles, on a cooler day, it was a breeze.  

in other words, i wouldn't worry.

cindy

 
 
 

NYC Marathon training problems

Post by RINGI » Tue, 06 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>>Subject: NYC Marathon training problems

>Date: Mon, Sep 28, 1998 22:25 EDT

>I'm currently running about 40 miles a week and biking about 80.  I have
>been running about 5 times a week, ranging from 5 miles to 18 miles per
>run.  This last weekend I was scheduled to run 20 miles but ran out of gas
>about 13 miles in and walked/ran the last 4.5 miles, never making the 20.
>This is kind of scary to me as the NYC is coming soon.  When we started out
>on our long run, the temp was about 75 and the humidity was about 100%.  I
>always sweat alot but this day I was absolutly drenched after the first few
>miles.  I've had some great 10 and 15 mile runs with out breaking down.
>I'm wondering how much the heat and humidity affects a bodies ability to
>run and how much did it affect my run?  Eventually I would lilke to break 4
>hours on a marathon and after that qualify for Boston, but at this point I
>simply want to get through my next marathon, and feel ok.  Not great, just
>ok.  I thought my  current training regimen would help me out in this quest
> but since I  had the terrible run this last weekend, I'm beginning to have
>my doubts of my ability.
>Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Steve,

I too planned to run 20 last week and stopped at 13.  

But Saturday is was much cooler and less humid.  I wanted to do 20 and felt so
good I did 23. I hppe you feel as redeamed as me

Michael