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Don't open e-mail from p_maturo@compuserve.com

Post by Roger 2 » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 02:54:15


I seem to remember, someone else on this NG talking about the same e-mail
address.

AT&T has anti virus software running on it's e-mail server, and the last
time I received a message from p_maturo, this came instead:
--------------------
"This message has been processed by Brightmail(TM) Anti-Virus using
Symantec's Norton AntiVirus Technology.


deleted because the file cannot be cleaned."
--------------------

The problem is:  I received another e-mail today, with the attachment.  I
know it has to be a virus also, because the message header contains:
Content-Type: audio/x-midi;

In other words, it is trying to use a Bug in Outlook to auto run itself.  It
says it is an "audio" file, but it is a "pif" instead.  I doubt if any
legitimate e-mail does that, and since I've received other viruses from this
same address, I have to believe this is just another one.  I'll bet it is a
mutated virus and wasn't recognized by "Brightmail" yet.

Now to running.  I started with a bunch of people that ran 4 miles and ended
with the same group.  The problem is, on the last 2 miles, I ran 1/2 mile
near flat out and then did a walk/jog recovery until part of the group
caught up, then did it again.

I consider that I ran 2 and 2 half miles, (3:10 first half mile, 3:22 second
half mile) but I covered a distance of 4 miles total, so did I run 3 or 4
miles this morning?

Thanks,
        Roger

 
 
 

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Post by MaryO » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 03:07:43

Roger,

Along the same lines... I had a scare at work the other day.  I got an e-mail
at my aol account with an .exe extension from an address that I didn't
recognize.  However, the address did appear to be at a school (you can
recognize a k-12 school's address because of the characters).  I correspond
with schools daily in business, but not through my aol account.  I was very
tempted to open this mail.  I looked the address up on a master list and
discovered it was a school in Key West.  What I figure is that I am in the
address book of a teacher in Key West; maybe this person has something to do
with the Key West half marathon, for which I am communicating with people down
there in hopes I can get something going re: volunteering in January.  We ran
this suspicious e-mail through a virus check and yes, it was a virus.  Whew.
If I had downloaded it, it would have gone through the network at work,
assumably.  Glad I didn't do it, but someone in Key West must have a virus
problem.

Mary  

 
 
 

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Post by Roger 2 » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 03:53:27

Quote:

>Roger,
>Glad I didn't do it, but someone in Key West must have a virus
>problem.

>Mary

Mary,

I've seen certain people with such a virus problem, that we had to setup the
e-mail server at work to filter out any e-mail from that address.

Hey, just because my name wasn't on the front of this month's "running
club's" newsletter doesn't mean that wasn't my picture.  ;-)  Heck, that is
the third time this year that one of my pictures has made the cover.

5 of the pictures I took at Chicago made it to page 7 this month.  The one
of me right before the finish also made it, but I can't count that one as
mine.  Those photos are at:
http://roger2k.home.mchsi.com/LBCM2002

I have to tell you a short story about the photo on the cover of this
month's newsletter.  It was from the start of the 3/10 mile race in Clinton
on Nov 10th.  The girl starting the race, got up on a ladder or chair and
said "Ready set go."  It was 8 am and time for the race to start, but a lot
of people were still waiting for the national anthem.

One person was taking a rock out of his shoe, and someone else on the same
side of the starting line was yelling, trying to get the girl not to start
the race.  That is the reason why part of the runners are still behind the
starting line and the people on the other side are way past the starting
line.  I managed to get both sides of the starting line in the photo and
considered it a "Lucky" shot.  Too bad it turned out to me 1.5 degrees off
of level, but I was in a hurry too.

However, Clinton started on time so nobody should be upset.  I've seen our
local "Turkey Trot" actually start before it was time and caught even more
people off guard.

Roger

 
 
 

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Post by MaryO » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 04:08:29

Quote:

>Heck, that is
>the third time this year that one of my pictures has made the cover.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Roger,

Congrats on your photography and your involvement with the newsletter.
Unfortunately, I tear out the calendar and toss the newsletter after I read
it...so, I don't have it around now to see your photography.  I assume you are
getting due credit?  I'll have to start looking for your photo credit from now
on.

Mary

 
 
 

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Post by Roger 2 » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 04:26:04

Quote:


>>Heck, that is
>>the third time this year that one of my pictures has made the cover.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Roger,

>Congrats on your photography and your involvement with the newsletter.
>Unfortunately, I tear out the calendar and toss the newsletter after I read
>it...so, I don't have it around now to see your photography.  I assume you
are
>getting due credit?  I'll have to start looking for your photo credit from
now
>on.

>Mary

My name has only been on the cover once out of the three times they used a
photo of mine.  I did get credit for the photos on page 7 this month.  I
don't mind that because most the people know where they came from.

As for the calendar.  Well, one of the local races, had an application in
there, but was not listed on the calendar.  In other words, that calendar is
not perfect.

Roger

 
 
 

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Post by Doug Frees » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 07:20:06

Quote:

> Roger,

> Along the same lines... I had a scare at work the other day.  I got an e-mail
> at my aol account with an .exe extension from an address that I didn't
> recognize.  However, the address did appear to be at a school (you can
> recognize a k-12 school's address because of the characters).  I correspond
> with schools daily in business, but not through my aol account.  I was very
> tempted to open this mail.  I looked the address up on a master list and
> discovered it was a school in Key West.  What I figure is that I am in the
> address book of a teacher in Key West; maybe this person has something to do
> with the Key West half marathon, for which I am communicating with people down
> there in hopes I can get something going re: volunteering in January.  We ran
> this suspicious e-mail through a virus check and yes, it was a virus.  Whew.
> If I had downloaded it, it would have gone through the network at work,
> assumably.  Glad I didn't do it, but someone in Key West must have a virus
> problem.

If you had a Norton like anti virus checker on your machine
which interrogates incoming mail, you would at least
know it is not a virus. It might be junk but not a virus.

--
Caveat Lector
"the further you go outside, the further you go inside" - B. McKibben
Doug Freese

 
 
 

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Post by Roger 2 » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 07:50:37

Quote:

>If you had a Norton like anti virus checker on your machine
>which interrogates incoming mail, you would at least
>know it is not a virus. It might be junk but not a virus.

"Virus checkers" do not always work.  The latest hardest hitting virus, was
not in the virus database for a day or two so it went to town.

As stated in my first post.  I'm sure I was sent a virus today because it
says it's "an audio file" and yet it is a PIF.  Besides, I know for a fact,
the sender of that e-mail has sent me viruses before because my ISP scans
them for me, and tells me if it had to remove an attachment.

Bottom line:  I don't trust "virus checkers" because I have seen them fail
too often.  Better just stay away from "strange" e-mails that are large or
bear executables.

Roger

 
 
 

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Post by Dot » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 08:20:00

Quote:

> Roger,

> Along the same lines... I had a scare at work the other day.  I got an e-mail
> at my aol account with an .exe extension from an address that I didn't
> recognize.  However, the address did appear to be at a school (you can
> recognize a k-12 school's address because of the characters).

Mary,

I'm not sure how you're checking e-mail - via webmail or e-mail pgm,
like Eudora and others. Many of our university folks use web-mail now,
where they have to open (download) the e-mail to see it. One of the
viruses around the last week or so apparently activated before Norton
could get to it - but not before it creamed the guy's computer. (It
appeared to have come from an account of mine that I thought had been
closed over 5 yrs ago, which is how I came to find out about it. He's
*very* glad the e-mail he sent in reply didn't reach  me.) However, with
a pgm like Eudora, the e-mail and attachment are downloaded, but I can
view an e-mail without opening it or the attachment(that may not be
foolproof under all conditions). Attachments aren't opened unless I
specifically open it.

But Norton catches the viruses inbound, asks what I want to do, I tell
it do delete (or quarantine if I think it might be something that
somebody screwed up), view (not open) the e-mail, and usually delete
this. The place I'm most likely to get mail like that is list-servers -
usually work-related, since I do running ones via digest. And my
university acct is the worst because they don't seem to have as much
security as ATT. (I get more spam through ATT because that's the adr I
use on ng.)

I'd be wary of anything with a .exe file attached unless someone you
know is sending you a program that you are expecting. The .doc and .xls
are a little more discrete about harboring viruses, but I've got most of
the university folks trained not to send .doc files - if they want
everyone to read it. Several of our faculty have warned our local
adminstrators / support staff to practice safe computing, and they're
getting better.

Just some thoughts to add to what others have said.

Dot

 
 
 

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Post by Miss Anne Thro » Tue, 03 Dec 2002 08:56:57

Speaking of malicious viruses...should I be concerned that I've lost 10
pounds more than my body weight in mucus today?
 
 
 

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Post by Ed Procha » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:46:36

Quote:

> I seem to remember, someone else on this NG talking about the same e-mail
> address.

> AT&T has anti virus software running on it's e-mail server, and the last
> time I received a message from p_maturo, this came instead:
> --------------------
> "This message has been processed by Brightmail(TM) Anti-Virus using
> Symantec's Norton AntiVirus Technology.


> deleted because the file cannot be cleaned."
> --------------------

> The problem is:  I received another e-mail today, with the attachment.  I
> know it has to be a virus also, because the message header contains:
> Content-Type: audio/x-midi;

> In other words, it is trying to use a Bug in Outlook to auto run itself.  It
> says it is an "audio" file, but it is a "pif" instead.  I doubt if any
> legitimate e-mail does that, and since I've received other viruses from this
> same address, I have to believe this is just another one.  I'll bet it is a
> mutated virus and wasn't recognized by "Brightmail" yet.

> Now to running.  I started with a bunch of people that ran 4 miles and ended
> with the same group.  The problem is, on the last 2 miles, I ran 1/2 mile
> near flat out and then did a walk/jog recovery until part of the group
> caught up, then did it again.

> I consider that I ran 2 and 2 half miles, (3:10 first half mile, 3:22 second
> half mile) but I covered a distance of 4 miles total, so did I run 3 or 4
> miles this morning?

> Thanks,
>         Roger

I would log total distance of 4miles. Of course, I would note the
walk/run distances in my notes.

Hey, you went the distance. Would you bother not logging the milage if
you did this in many smaller chunks, like a fartlek run?

But really the bottom line is being honest to yourself. Log what you
feel you should.

Enjoy,
ed

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Ed Prochak
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