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by **SwStudi** » Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:21:55

Quote:

> [race report enjoyed]

> Wow!

> Reading about your accomplishment makes me wonder if calling myself a
> runner is justified :o)

LOL... if you get out there and put one foot in front of the
other fast enough to gain momentary air between footfalls,
you're a runner!

Quote:

> However that might be, you did make me kind of curious about how fast (ok
> slow) I would run a 5k right now at 210 lbs and after 4 weeks of running
> (46 k last week) - perhaps I'll give it a very private try... My guess is
> 30 minutes, and just out of curiosity, you woudn't happen to know the time
> of the person finishing last?

30 minutes is a great time for 4 weeks of running! You are already
up to 46km a week?!? Thaqt's pretty good, I would say. As far as
time goes, at most 5k races there are some walkers who do it for
the charity, so we won't coun't them - however, I've noticed that
it seems to take about 60 - 70 minutes for the average walker to
walk 5km. The um, slowest runners (I feel kind of rude saying
that!) usually cross the line in between 40 - 50 minutes. A 30
minute finish would place you at perhaps 60th -70th place in a
100 person 5k race, on average (around here, anyway).

Quote:

> Next goal?

A 5k on Dec 9, and a 10 miler on Dec 26. After that, I am totally
concentrating for Around The Bay 30k on Mar 24, 2002.

--
David (in Hamilton, Ont)
"Courage is fear holding on a minute longer"
Gen. George Patton
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html

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by **SwStudi** » Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:23:07

Quote:

> Wow. Way to go.
> L

Thanks! Maybe all this recent higher mileage is starting to pay
off for me.

--
David (in Hamilton, Ont)
"Courage is fear holding on a minute longer"
Gen. George Patton
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html

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by **David Forbe** » Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:58:53

Way to go, Dave. What's your next challeng - 3 races in 3 days??
Hope you celebrated with a good bottle of wine.

Quote:

> Here's 'part 2' of my race weekend double:

> I woke up this morning feeling fairly stiff (who knew?), but
> still in good spirits for today's race. The weather was a little
> windy, but nice otherwise. When I arrived, I looked around
> to see if anyone was there that I knew to be really fast, but I
> saw no one. None of the Kenyans showed up (no money),
> the few other scary-fast local guys were pooped from yesterday's
> big race. I warmed up with about 4km, with some nice strides
> thrown in. By the time I was done, the stiffness was mostly
> gone, luckily. I lined up with the 155 other runners, and we
> were off.

> As soon as it started I was somehow in the lead. I didn't expect
> anything like this - in most races a lot of people start way too
> fast, but not this one. I didn't look behind me, but a friend in
> the race said I was immediately followed by 3 other guys,
> about 5 feet behind me in a little pack. I just tried to run loose
> and relaxed, but the e***ment of the lead culminated in a
> bit of a fast start. My first kilometre was 3:22, and I had
> wanted a 3:28 opening... here we go again! Upon seeing
> this first split, I slowed a little and moved to the side, to allow
> whoever was right behind me a chance for the lead. I was
> getting sick of hearing whoever it was that was breathing down
> my neck, anyway.

> It turned out to be this guy Gord, who I had not spotted before.
> He has run under 17 minutes recently, I knew. Was he in that
> type of shape right now? If he was, I was making a mistake
> running with him... this is what went through my head for
> the second kilometre, as I took a turn breathing down his
> neck. My split was 3:24. Whew! Still a little fast, and I was
> sure I would pay for it. Normally I would have dropped back,
> but... you know, I was basically sharing the lead of a 5k
> at almost the half-way point! A quick glance behind showed
> what I could hear - no one near us. I pushed on.

> During the third kilometre, Gord started throwing in surges.
> He is an experienced runner, and was really applying some
> serious pressure. At one point in this kilometre, for a brief
> moment, I started letting him gain distance on me. I really
> had to summon a lot to stay with him. This was the hardest
> kilometre in the race for me. My split was 3:28, but it was
> hard-earned.

> For the fourth kilometre, I was hurting quite badly, but I
> could tell he was, too. That's what kept me going. He had
> burnt himself out with the surges instead of me. I thought
> about my form and how much I wanted the win around
> here. By the end of this kilometre, I started allowing myself
> the thought of winning. The clinching moment (for me)
> was at about 3.9km, when I 'accidently' started drifting by
> him, because he had started to slow almost imperceptively.
> I dropped back behind him and almost enjoyed the slower
> pace. This kilometre took me 3:32.

> The entire 5th kilometre was spent waiting for the moment
> for me to take the lead. He knew it and so did I. I didn't want
> to be one of those losers that duck in front at the absolute last
> second (I've always hated that), so I pulled up beside him
> with about 250m to go and sprinted as hard as I could when
> he didn't respond, because for once I had a kick. It felt great
> crossing the tape with a last kilometre of 3:20, and a spanking
> new PR of 17:09, AND an overall win. I ended up with a
> medal and a really nice plaque.Thanks for reading!

> km# Time:
> 1 3:22
> 2 3:24
> 3 3:38
> 4 3:32
> 5 3:20 TOTAL: 17:09 1st Overall

> --
> David (in Hamilton, Ont)
> "Courage is fear holding on a minute longer"
> Gen. George Patton
> http://SportToday.org/

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--
Regards,
Dave

by **Teresa Plyma** » Wed, 21 Nov 2001 00:11:51

Quote:

>Here's 'part 2' of my race weekend double:

>he didn't respond, because for once I had a kick. It felt great
>crossing the tape with a last kilometre of 3:20, and a spanking
>new PR of 17:09, AND an overall win. I ended up with a
>medal and a really nice plaque.Thanks for reading!

>David (in Hamilton, Ont)
>"Courage is fear holding on a minute longer"
> Gen. George Patton

Woohoo! COngratulations, David! Well run race I'd say! (And also
congrats on the previous race too!)

Teresa in AZ

by **Ianb Runne** » Wed, 21 Nov 2001 01:29:38

How about:

http://www.clublasanta.com/PDF/challenge%20week.eng.pdf

Lots of fun in the sun...

IanB.

Quote:

> Way to go, Dave. What's your next challeng - 3 races in 3 days??
> Hope you celebrated with a good bottle of wine.

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by **Jarno Hellstr** » Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:15:01

Quote:

> > Reading about your accomplishment makes me wonder if calling myself a
> > runner is justified :o)

> LOL... if you get out there and put one foot in front of the
> other fast enough to gain momentary air between footfalls,
> you're a runner!

Hey that's me allright!

Quote:

> > However that might be, you did make me kind of curious about how fast (ok
> > slow) I would run a 5k right now at 210 lbs and after 4 weeks of running
> > (46 k last week) - perhaps I'll give it a very private try... My guess is
> > 30 minutes, and just out of curiosity, you woudn't happen to know the time
> > of the person finishing last?

> 30 minutes is a great time for 4 weeks of running! You are already
> up to 46km a week?!? Thaqt's pretty good, I would say.

Thanks! Starting from 0 I had some calculus problems with adding 10% to it
so I 'forgot' the rule for 4 weeks and increased distance quite rapidly,
but now I think I settle for around 30-40k for a few weeks and try to tune
myself for an upcoming 10k 'race' on New Year's Eve (luckily it's at 7pm
so the sparkly stuff is yet to be popped).

Quote:

>As far as
> time goes, at most 5k races there are some walkers who do it for
> the charity, so we won't coun't them - however, I've noticed that
> it seems to take about 60 - 70 minutes for the average walker to
> walk 5km. The um, slowest runners (I feel kind of rude saying
> that!) usually cross the line in between 40 - 50 minutes. A 30
> minute finish would place you at perhaps 60th -70th place in a
> 100 person 5k race, on average (around here, anyway).

OK. I'll post here how my first (private, alone) 5k goes - nice to join
the winners club too :o)

Jarno

--
The woods are lovely, dark and deep
But I have promises to keep
And miles to go before I sleep
And miles to go before I sleep. - Robert Frost

by **cygnus481** » Wed, 21 Nov 2001 06:45:04

Quote:

> Here's 'part 2' of my race weekend double:

Kick ass! Though I must say that I'm more than a bit envious. I'll never get
a first overall, and the only way that I'll ever be first in my age group is
if I get to be old enough that everyone else in my age group is dead...

Congrats!

David

by **tmac..** » Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:36:39

Quote:

> I didn't want to be one of those losers that
> duck in front at the absolute last second (I've
> always hated that), so I pulled up beside him
> with about 250m to go and sprinted as hard
> as I could when he didn't respond, because
> for once I had a kick. It felt great crossing the
> tape with a last kilometre of 3:20, and a
> spanking new PR of 17:09, AND an overall
> win. I ended up with a medal and a really nice
> plaque.Thanks for reading!
>km# ? Time:

?1 ? ? ? ? 3:22
?2 ? ? ? ? 3:24
?3 ? ? ? ? 3:38
?4 ? ? ? ? 3:32
??5 ? ? ? ? 3:20 ? ? TOTAL: 17:09 1st Overall

I always see the reply's to your post, before your actual post. You
were really racing this time! I don't mean your time, which was super,
but you were racing with someone else. A lot can go through your mind
in a short time. I don't see anything wrong with waiting until the last
second to beat someone! Do you think your previous attempt at a

Troy

by **SwStudi** » Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:14:32

Quote:

> I always see the reply's to your post, before your actual post.

up a lot of people. I think everything is okay now!

Quote:

> You were really racing this time! I don't mean your time, which
> was super, but you were racing with someone else. A lot can go
> through your mind in a short time.

I totally know what you mean!! My mind was racing more
than I was! ;-)

Quote:

> I don't see anything wrong with waiting until the last
> second to beat someone!

I've had experiences where it's been done to me and I thought
it was cheaply done, as if the person felt they couldn't beat me
if I had a chance to respond to their surge. Maybe I am still
bitter about it..hehe

Quote:

> Do you think your previous attempt at a suicidal pace helped?
> How many races have you ran this year? I've done 25 and it
> was too many!

It did help a bit, but I think the fact that I upped my mileage
over the past month really did the trick.
I have done 32 races so far this year, and have two to go... maybe
three. I know it is too much, but I love it!!

thanks,

--
David (in Hamilton, Ont)
"Courage is fear holding on a minute longer"
Gen. George Patton
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html

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by **Jeff D. W** » Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:40:19

Congratulations David,
Your times just keep dropping. Keep up the good work (and long miles).
Best,
Jeff D. W.

Quote:

> > Wow. Way to go.
> > L

> Thanks! Maybe all this recent higher mileage is starting to pay
> off for me.

> --
> David (in Hamilton, Ont)
> "Courage is fear holding on a minute longer"
> Gen. George Patton
> http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html

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