helping out people who don't know what they are doing

helping out people who don't know what they are doing

Post by beastie_g.. » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00


I was on my run this morning when I saw a girl jogging with ankle
weights.  She was about to go up a hill too!  I know it's none of my
business, but I really wanted to grab her and tell her that ankle
weights were not a good thing.  I sometimes run at the track and see
similar things.  I see people doing things that are detrimental (such
as the weights) or things that aren't helping at all (like people who
are out there to lose weight walking around the track so slow that it's
not really doing them much good).  I know it's really none of my
business, but I just want to help these people!  I don't want to see
people get injured by doing stupid things, and I don't want the people
who are trying to lose weight to be discouraged because they don't see
any results.  Is there any polite way of approaching these people and
helping them out?  I am afraid that they will think I am just being a
snobby runner who knows it all just because I go faster than they do,
but I really just want to help them out!  Should I just keep my nose
out of their business and try not to worry about them??

BG

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Post by cm.. » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> I was on my run this morning when I saw a girl jogging with ankle
> weights.  She was about to go up a hill too!  I know it's none of my
> business,

[cut]

Asked and answered.

[cut]

  I know it's really none of my

Quote:
> business,

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Quote:
>> Should I just keep my nose
> out of their business and try not to worry about them??

Yes.  Do you stop complete strangers who are smokers and remind them
that smoking is bad for their health?

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Post by Bob McClella » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00

It's commendable that you want to help anyone who needs help.
Possibly one approach might be to compliment them on the effort they
are making, and then ask if they mind if you comment on an
observation....
and play it by ear from there.

just my 2 cents.
Bob.

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I was on my run this morning when I saw a girl jogging with ankle
weights.  She was about to go up a hill too!  I know it's none of my
business, but I really wanted to grab her and tell her that ankle
weights were not a good thing.  I sometimes run at the track and see
similar things.  I see people doing things that are detrimental (such
as the weights) or things that aren't helping at all (like people who
are out there to lose weight walking around the track so slow that it's
not really doing them much good).  I know it's really none of my
business, but I just want to help these people!  I don't want to see
people get injured by doing stupid things, and I don't want the people
who are trying to lose weight to be discouraged because they don't see
any results.  Is there any polite way of approaching these people and
helping them out?  I am afraid that they will think I am just being a
snobby runner who knows it all just because I go faster than they do,
but I really just want to help them out!  Should I just keep my nose
out of their business and try not to worry about them??

BG

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Post by leah » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00

While I don't have the urge to intervene in every running infraction I
see, here's a situation that has caused me a lot of concern lately:
There's a gal here in Pittsburgh who runs down Forbes past CMU most
afternoons, IN THE STREET *WITH* TRAFFIC, WITH HEADPHONES ON. Plus, she's
a flagrant heel striker. I'm hoping her bad form will injure her before a
PAT bus kills her. Walking by her once, I yelled out that she should get
out of the street or at least face traffic, but she didn't hear a word I
said.

Maybe I should cc this to the campus police. I can't imagine what else to
do about it.



Quote:
> I was on my run this morning when I saw a girl jogging with ankle
> weights.  She was about to go up a hill too!  I know it's none of my
> business, but I really wanted to grab her and tell her that ankle
> weights were not a good thing.  I sometimes run at the track and see
> similar things.  I see people doing things that are detrimental (such
> as the weights) or things that aren't helping at all (like people who
> are out there to lose weight walking around the track so slow that it's
> not really doing them much good).  I know it's really none of my
> business, but I just want to help these people!  I don't want to see
> people get injured by doing stupid things, and I don't want the people
> who are trying to lose weight to be discouraged because they don't see
> any results.  Is there any polite way of approaching these people and
> helping them out?  I am afraid that they will think I am just being a
> snobby runner who knows it all just because I go faster than they do,
> but I really just want to help them out!  Should I just keep my nose
> out of their business and try not to worry about them??

> BG

 
 
 

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Post by jeff » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

> > I was on my run this morning when I saw a girl jogging with ankle
> > weights.  She was about to go up a hill too!  I know it's none of my
> > business,

> [cut]

> Asked and answered.

Not really.

Quote:
> [cut]

>   I know it's really none of my
> > business,

> [cut]

> >> Should I just keep my nose
> > out of their business and try not to worry about them??

> Yes.  Do you stop complete strangers who are smokers and remind them
> that smoking is bad for their health?

No, but I usually remind them that their smoking is bad for my health.

I usually mutter and fume a couple of minutes if idiot smokers are sitting
next to me.  Then after that I usually get pissed and ask them to put out
the cigarette or I move somewhere else while complaining loudly so they can
hear my disgust.

Of course smokers and people that drive slow are my two pet peeves.

-jeff

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Post by dave » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> > Yes.  Do you stop complete strangers who are smokers and remind them
> > that smoking is bad for their health?

> No, but I usually remind them that their smoking is bad for my health.

> I usually mutter and fume a couple of minutes if idiot smokers are sitting
> next to me.  Then after that I usually get pissed and ask them to put out
> the cigarette or I move somewhere else while complaining loudly so they
can
> hear my disgust.

> Of course smokers and people that drive slow are my two pet peeves.

I just fart loudly and give them some of my "smoke".  I can clear out a
large room rather quickly. ;-)

dave

 
 
 

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Post by Dirk » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:
> I was on my run this morning when I saw a girl jogging with
> ankle weights.

Ouch.

[snip]

Quote:
> Is there any polite way of approaching these people and
> helping them out?  I am afraid that they will think I am just being
> a snobby runner who knows it all just because I go faster than
> they do,

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Quote:
> but I really just want to help them out!  Should I just keep my
> nose out of their business and try not to worry about them??

Do both. Worry about them, but yeah, keep your nose out of their business.
Just post here with an "idiots on the road" or "idiots on the trail" rant,
as you've done, whenever the urge strikes.

that's why we're here,
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Post by Sam » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:



> > I was on my run this morning when I saw a girl jogging with ankle
> > weights.  She was about to go up a hill too!  I know it's none of my
> > business,

> [cut]

> Asked and answered.

> [cut]

>   I know it's really none of my
> > business,

> [cut]

> >> Should I just keep my nose
> > out of their business and try not to worry about them??

> Yes.  Do you stop complete strangers who are smokers and remind them
> that smoking is bad for their health?

        Actually most of them know the dangers these days so there is no
need.  In the case of ankle weights, she probably does not know any
difference and it can seem like a good idea (running with ankle weights that
is) until the negatives are pointed out.

    To answer the question, I tend not to ***in unless I see something
that is life threatening at that moment (like about to step into an open
manhole or something).

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Post by ProfWdes » Fri, 11 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote "that aren't helping at all (like people who are out there to lose weight
walking around the track so slow that it's not really doing them much good)."

Answer:  First off you are right, it probably isn't any of your business and
would be rude in most cases to mention anything without somekind of general
conversation first.  Most likely it would be best to re-evaluate the way you
look at people who are walking slow.  Running with ankle weights is bad but
walking slow is good for most people and has a lot of health benefits.  Stress
and worry is probably the biggest killer of people.  So a slow walk can help
with that often more than a run for most people.  Plus, some of the slow
walkers may have heart problems, knee problems, or other issues that make a
slow walk better than anything faster.  The biggest thing is that running and
walking is an art and the individual should determine how the want to express
themselves.  Roy

 
 
 

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Post by Te.. » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I love  smoking cigarettes and lioke my bad breath and smoke smelled
clothes and being out  of breath as I walk any stairs!!!I also love
being overweight and looking like ***
 
 
 

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Post by Kate Gillogl » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00

        Well, I'll take a different tack on answering this question.  If you
continue to see this woman on the track/road you use, strike up a
conversation and then eventually mention the problem with weights.  With
some sort of social interaction beforehand, it will be seen as helpful.
        This is a 'girl' thing.  Women have a different dynamic (it's not
biological, just cultural in America!), one that says we should be
cooperative, help others, and be willing to accept help.  Someone giving
us help is not supposed to be perceived as that person trying to be
aggressive and dominate us (unless it's our husband/boyfriend telling us
what to do, of course!).  Seriously, Deborah Tannen (a linguistic
anthropologist) has written some really interesting books and articles
on this dynamic.  In the US, more male social interactions are involved
in establishment of social ***, so that even something like asking
for directions is considered a serious loss of face.  Mind you, I'm more
cautious about doing things like this in Chicago than I would have been
in, say, Ann Arbor or Iowa City or Honolulu.  You know the culture of
where you live.
        All that said, I faced a similar issue two weeks ago in a race.  I ran
much of the way behind two women, one of whom had very worn out black
tights on.  Good thing it was a women's race ... these were so worn as
to be transparent.  I didn't say anything during the race 'cuz I didn't
want to ruin it for her.  I figured I'd mention it to her friend after
the race (_she_ wouldn't be embarassed; she'd know how to tell her
friend).  As it turns out, I come up on the woman herself in the chip
untying area, smiled, told her she ran a great race, then leaned in and
mentioned the tights.  She smiled and laughed and said thanks.  No big
deal either way.  On the other hand, when a drunken ***age boy
interfered with some women in the race, I pulled middle-aged woman
***, whacked him with my hat and told him  if he didn't have the
requisite *** equipment to get the hell out.  I used somewhat
coarser language and he was embarassed by me!  Tee-hee.  I love being
middle-aged.
Kate G.
 
 
 

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Post by Mark » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:

> I usually mutter and fume a couple of minutes if idiot smokers are sitting
> next to me.  Then after that I usually get pissed and ask them to put out
> the cigarette or I move somewhere else while complaining loudly so they
can
> hear my disgust.

> Of course smokers and people that drive slow are my two pet peeves.

So what do you do to people who slow down on the road to light up!
 
 
 

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Post by Denny Anders » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Quote:

>I love  smoking cigarettes and lioke my bad breath and smoke smelled
>clothes and being out  of breath as I walk any stairs!!!I also love
>being overweight and looking like ***

.........and lioke bean one of the web.tv illiterati?

Denny - i lioke ez targets

 
 
 

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Post by jeff » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00

That's good.  Just stay away from me.

-jeff


Quote:
> I love  smoking cigarettes and lioke my bad breath and smoke smelled
> clothes and being out  of breath as I walk any stairs!!!I also love
> being overweight and looking like ***

 
 
 

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Post by beastie_g.. » Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Kate,

I agree that it's a "girl" thing to try to help everyone (even people
we don't know)...I will try your suggestion of befriending this woman
if I see her again...that seems the best thing I can do besides ignore
it and hope the best for her!  I live in NJ, and people aren't known
for being nice around here (at least to strangers), but it's worth a
shot.  Thanks!

BG



Quote:
>    Well, I'll take a different tack on answering this question.
If you
> continue to see this woman on the track/road you use, strike up a
> conversation and then eventually mention the problem with weights.
With
> some sort of social interaction beforehand, it will be seen as
helpful.
>    This is a 'girl' thing.  Women have a different dynamic (it's
not
> biological, just cultural in America!), one that says we should be
> cooperative, help others, and be willing to accept help.  Someone
giving
> us help is not supposed to be perceived as that person trying to be
> aggressive and dominate us (unless it's our husband/boyfriend telling
us
> what to do, of course!).  Seriously, Deborah Tannen (a linguistic
> anthropologist) has written some really interesting books and articles
> on this dynamic.  In the US, more male social interactions are
involved
> in establishment of social ***, so that even something like
asking
> for directions is considered a serious loss of face.  Mind you, I'm
more
> cautious about doing things like this in Chicago than I would have
been
> in, say, Ann Arbor or Iowa City or Honolulu.  You know the culture of
> where you live.
>    All that said, I faced a similar issue two weeks ago in a
race.  I ran
> much of the way behind two women, one of whom had very worn out black
> tights on.  Good thing it was a women's race ... these were so worn as
> to be transparent.  I didn't say anything during the race 'cuz I
didn't
> want to ruin it for her.  I figured I'd mention it to her friend after
> the race (_she_ wouldn't be embarassed; she'd know how to tell her
> friend).  As it turns out, I come up on the woman herself in the chip
> untying area, smiled, told her she ran a great race, then leaned in
and
> mentioned the tights.  She smiled and laughed and said thanks.  No big
> deal either way.  On the other hand, when a drunken ***age boy
> interfered with some women in the race, I pulled middle-aged woman
> ***, whacked him with my hat and told him  if he didn't have the
> requisite *** equipment to get the hell out.  I used somewhat
> coarser language and he was embarassed by me!  Tee-hee.  I love being
> middle-aged.
> Kate G.

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