New Runner Needs Advice-Please Help!

New Runner Needs Advice-Please Help!

Post by RWit » Sat, 02 Sep 1995 04:00:00


I started running about 8 weeks ago. I had been working out on a Nordic
Track for approximately 12 weeks prior to that. The frist two weeks
consisted of 2 mile runs every third day. The next 2 weeks consisted of
three mile runs every third day. The last 4 weeks consisted of 3 mile runs
every other day with one five mile run a week and occasional consecutive
day running and occasional extra days off when sore. I am about 20 pounds
overweight, use New Balance 700's and stretch for approximately 20 minutes
prior to and after every run using a Prostretch. Did i do too much too
soon or should i consult with a doctor about orthotics? Any help would be
greatly appreciated since i enjoy running and want to continue. By the way
I started at a ten minute pace and currently run at a 8.5 to 9 min pace

thanx very much

 
 
 

New Runner Needs Advice-Please Help!

Post by Kit Cutl » Sun, 03 Sep 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

> I started running about 8 weeks ago. I had been working out on a Nordic
> Track for approximately 12 weeks prior to that. The frist two weeks
> consisted of 2 mile runs every third day. The next 2 weeks consisted of
> three mile runs every third day. The last 4 weeks consisted of 3 mile runs
> every other day with one five mile run a week and occasional consecutive
<snip>
> Did i do too much too
> soon or should i consult with a doctor about orthotics?

RWitts,
Do you have some sort of problem?  The last thing you said indicated that
you must be experiencing some kind of pain if you want to consult with a
doctor or think you did too much too soon.  If you are just worried about
being sore, that's normal and you don't need a doctor - you just need to
warm up and warm down and stretch well.  If it's more than that, you ought
to say so somewhere in your post.

--


 
 
 

New Runner Needs Advice-Please Help!

Post by nstn37 » Sun, 03 Sep 1995 04:00:00


Quote:

>I started running about 8 weeks ago. I had been working out on a Nordic
>Track for approximately 12 weeks prior to that. The frist two weeks
>consisted of 2 mile runs every third day. The next 2 weeks consisted of
>three mile runs every third day. The last 4 weeks consisted of 3 mile
runs
>every other day with one five mile run a week and occasional consecutive
>day running and occasional extra days off when sore. I am about 20
pounds
>overweight, use New Balance 700's and stretch for approximately 20
minutes
>prior to and after every run using a Prostretch. Did i do too much too
>soon or should i consult with a doctor about orthotics? Any help would
be
>greatly appreciated since i enjoy running and want to continue. By the
way
>I started at a ten minute pace and currently run at a 8.5 to 9 min pace

>thanx very much

It's great to hear that you enjoy running and want to continue however I
am a bit confused as to your problem  re: should I get orthotics or see a
doctor?  If you are experiencing feet or leg problems there are several
routes to follow:
1.  go to a good sports store where the staff are knowedgable on
running shoes. The New Balance 700 may not be the shoe for you. I have
been using Saucony Jazz 4000 / 5000 for the past 5 years with great
success, however this shoe suits my build ie: medium frame etc. Go by the
shoe and how it suits you ie: will it give you the support that you
require etc.
2.  as for orthotics,  don't get them unless you need them.  I would only
go this route if the above does not work (and again not knowing what your
problem is). If being fitted for orthotics it would be great if you could
be referred to someone who is a runner and understands running problems.
 I have been wearing orthotics for 4 years and will be obligated to do so
for the rest of my life. I am lucky that the clinic where I go is owned
by a fellow runner.

You state that you stretch for 20 minutes before running and 20 after.  I
do a very brief stretch before I start,  and when I start it is slow
until for the first 10 minutes or so, then I pick up my pace.  Stretching
cold muscles can do more harm then not stretching at all. Many people
have their own views on this and you must go on what feels the best for
you. When racing, I usually run 1 to 2 miles, stretch and then keep warm
until the race starts.  This is so I can go out a bit harder.  Again
though I do not go out at 100%,  I save some for the finish.

Keep up the running, set your goals and have fun. I've been running for 5
years with a new goal each year.  My first marathon was last yr and what
a RUSH!! Don't start big,  build up.

If you want some more info, get in touch,  anyway

      Got to run now.



 
 
 

New Runner Needs Advice-Please Help!

Post by John W Ca » Mon, 04 Sep 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

>I started running about 8 weeks ago. I had been working out on a Nordic
>Track for approximately 12 weeks prior to that. The frist two weeks
>consisted of 2 mile runs every third day. The next 2 weeks consisted of
>three mile runs every third day. The last 4 weeks consisted of 3 mile runs
>every other day with one five mile run a week and occasional consecutive
>day running and occasional extra days off when sore. I am about 20 pounds
>overweight, use New Balance 700's and stretch for approximately 20 minutes
>prior to and after every run using a Prostretch. Did i do too much too
>soon or should i consult with a doctor about orthotics? Any help would be
>greatly appreciated since i enjoy running and want to continue. By the way
>I started at a ten minute pace and currently run at a 8.5 to 9 min pace
>thanx very much

Are you having some kind of problem?
John Carl

 
 
 

New Runner Needs Advice-Please Help!

Post by Kickasfa » Sat, 09 Sep 1995 04:00:00

Put this note on your refrigerator; ***e day and easy the next. If you
have pain in the calf or the plantar fascitis, don't stretch to the point
of pain, really listen to your calf and foot pain. Always stretch after
you run. I really like how you scheduled your progression up to now. Keep
up the Health Habit Always. You will lose even more weight in time and
diet, have patience. Way to go.
 
 
 

New Runner Needs Advice-Please Help!

Post by Edwar » Sun, 10 Sep 1995 04:00:00

As for pain, I can tell you my experience, which no M.D. would
endorse: At first, on daily runs starting at ten minutes the
first week and moving up five minutes each week to a daily minimum of
30 minutes now, with hour-long runs on the weekend, during the
first six weeks I often got knee and shin pain, so much so that
I couldn't walk down stairs well at all, and certainly couldn't
squat.

When I ran marathons in the 1980s, I had an orthotic from the top
NY sports podiatrist. Now I don't have one. SO now, aftger starting my
running anew this year - I never skipped a day of running, pain or not,
and guess what? My muscles and bones have now adjusted so I don't have
pain anymore.

I ran through the pain to the other side. It worked for me. (And my
pain was severe at first.)

To put it in perspective, I just turned 51.

     Edward

 
 
 

New Runner Needs Advice-Please Help!

Post by Tom Carmina » Wed, 13 Sep 1995 04:00:00

Quote:

> As for pain, I can tell you my experience, [...]
> I often got knee and shin pain, so much so that
> I couldn't walk down stairs well at all, and certainly couldn't
> squat.

> [...] I never skipped a day of running, pain or not,
> and guess what? My muscles and bones have now adjusted so I don't have
> pain anymore.

> I ran through the pain to the other side. It worked for me. (And my
> pain was severe at first.)

I haven't been following this thread. But after reading the "run through
the pain" advice above I thought I'd add some words of caution.

When you start an exercise program you can expect muscle soreness. If you
include proper rest in the program the muscle will come back stronger. (So
running every other day or less may be appropriate at first.)

I wouldn't treat joint soreness the same way. It may be a symptom of a
biomechanical problem that will only get worse with use. It could be a
problem that proper shoes or othotics could fix. You will have some aches
that come and go. But if your running stride is affected, don't run. I
can't really tell you how to differentiate between "aches" and "pain" or
"injury" but use some caution. I know consistency is important starting
out, so if it hurts to run you could try a brisk walk or bike ride.

Consistency is important, but ignoring pain isn't wise.

--
Tom Carminati
U S WEST Technologies