> Things get pretty wintery in Ottawa, Canada. I like to dress up in
> layers, capping the layers off with a nylon shell. At least I think
> that's what it is, I got the overpants and jacket lifetimes ago. The
> overpants and jacket are just thin sheets plastic worn over whatever
> you may be wearing, be it sweats, sweaters, or even office pants. No
> high tech breathable fabric, no mesh lining, no fleece lining i.e.
> easy to slip over anything else you may be wearing, heavy duty or not.
You might need to search for "ripstop nylon" (or even silnylon) but some
of the polyester shells slide on over layers just as easily. Or if
you're just looking for "plastic" rain stuff, you might find it in a
corner of "army-navy" stores (although ours are a far cry from what
army-navy stores used to be) or an outdoor store or even a grocery store
(seasonal shelves). Other searches I just tried were "wind shell
That said, some of my nylon shells may have liners, but usually slippery
ones to slide on over whatever. My favorites without liners are
Patagonia Krushell (winter shell, polyester, seems to be discontinued)
and Houdini (summer, nylon, dries fast once it stops raining). I have an
assortment of others of nylon or polyester that are smooth enough to
slide over layers. I've got a windshirt with fuzzy liner that works well
over smooth base layers, and I use one less layer with it.
Rain shell is Marmot Precip (nylon, iirc, but before they started using
liners). A lot of my good gear I've gotten on close outs / sales at
local stores (REI, Alaska Mountaineering and Hiking) or online
(sierratradingpost.com). Rain pants are also Marmot Precip, but prefer
lighter windpants for carrying in summer.
My windpants are Montbell, and I think they're nylon. They're perfect
over my usual winter running pants (wore them snowshoeing today), but
too small for over top heavy-duty stuff (say, Carhartts), and a bit
baggy for summer wear (but they're the lightest, most versatile
windpants I've got, so use them when they're needed).
You might also look for "team jackets" or windpants or windshells.
"packable jacket" seems to pull up some stuff also.
I was going to say that my personal preference for winter gear
(southcentral Alaska) tends to be more on the polyester line since it
breathes a little better than nylon, but I'm not sure that's really true
in any measurable amount.
> But heck, how did something so simple as a nylon shell get so bl..dy
> complicated and expensive? I mean, if it was just an expendable nylon
> shell, I would be less apprenhensive about having the entire leg
> section redesigned as an experiment.
They got complicated and expensive to be more useful for being active in
weather-with-an-attitude for hours. I wouldn't trade any of my $60ish
shells for my $10 (maybe it was $15) one from the 70s. They're just so
much more comfortable for running, esp. when going to be outside for
hours in Alaska winter or summer. And most of them are light enough I
can carry them in a pack for multi-hour runs when the weather changes.
Good hoods are still hard to find, and I was clueless back in my 20s.
Both materials and designs have improved in the last 40+ years.
That said, you should still be able to find the simpler shells, although
they may have gotten fashiony and expensive.
"Surrender to the run and allow it to take you, rather than trying to
control or force an outcome."