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Two many Fat Girls

Post by Doug Frees » Mon, 02 Feb 2004 23:58:31


Quote:

> Did you mean to say "This does *not* mean no protein"?

Ooops, yes, fast fingers, slow mind, tight depends and drooping
drool cup.

The way I understand

Quote:
> it is to pile on the carbs shortly after a hard workout along with adequate
> fluids. Then follow that some time later with additional protein.

For me it's pancakes, eggs, maybe some home fries(yes, those evil GI
spuds) and toast - a volume of all the basic food groups.

--
Doug Freese
"Caveat Lector"

 
 
 

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Post by Tom Henderso » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:09:45



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> For muscle recover you need
>   primarily carbs and within 15 minutes of finishing.

Hence the post-race beer!

Tom

 
 
 

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Post by Donovan Rebbech » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:56:20

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>          TenKMan is essentially correct.  It turns out that almost all
> vegetables/fruits are significantly more expensive than meat, PER CALORIE.
> Asparagus, per calorie, is thru the roof.  There are only a few vegetables
> that are substantially cheaper than meat, per calorie: potatoes, corn, rice,
> and some beans.  Do the math.

This is based on a flawed premise. No-one is suggesting that these people
replace X calories worth of meat with X calories of the other food (that
wouldn't exactly help, would it ?). They are supposeed to buy comparable
*volume* of the other food, so they fill up on less calories. That is, a high
calorie portion of macronutrient-dense food is supposed to be replaced with
a similar size portion of macronutrient-sparse food, so that their intake is
reduced.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

 
 
 

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Post by Thomas Reynol » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:09:19

Quote:

> The way I understand
> > it is to pile on the carbs shortly after a hard workout along with adequate
> > fluids. Then follow that some time later with additional protein.

> For me it's pancakes, eggs, maybe some home fries(yes, those evil GI
> spuds) and toast - a volume of all the basic food groups.

And way more than your share of saturated fat and bleached flour.  A
better carb recovery diet would be fruits, whole wheat breads and
cereals.  Protein can be had from a variety of other healthy sources.

Although you may run or bicycle 20-40 hours a week a healthy heart is
still important.

Tom

 
 
 

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Post by Harold Buc » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:16:27



Quote:
> The way I understand
> > it is to pile on the carbs shortly after a hard workout along with adequate
> > fluids. Then follow that some time later with additional protein.

> For me it's pancakes, eggs, maybe some home fries(yes, those evil GI
> spuds) and toast - a volume of all the basic food groups.

But the GI of *fried* potatoes isn't so high!

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night,
 and party every day.
 Then it was every other day. . . ."
      -Homer J. Simpson

 
 
 

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Post by Harold Buc » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:18:52



Quote:

> Sometimes, when one only has $3.75 in their jeans, a discount
> package of day-old donuts can be stretched further than a bunch
> of bananas and oranges.

The other thing is that fresh fruits and veggies can be inconsistent. My
mom used to say that poor people would often opt for cookies instead of
fruit because the cookies would always be the same, but sometimes you'd
pay for fruit and it would suck. Of course, I have no idea where she
came up with this (or some of her other theories).

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night,
 and party every day.
 Then it was every other day. . . ."
      -Homer J. Simpson

 
 
 

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Post by Harold Buc » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:19:40


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> > It's a good reminder that there are cheap carb's that aren't over-refined
> > simple carbs

> My favorite cheap fiber-rich carb is brown basmanti.

Wasn't she one of the first African-American superheroes?

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night,
 and party every day.
 Then it was every other day. . . ."
      -Homer J. Simpson

 
 
 

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Post by MJuri » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:25:33

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>> The same cultural issue was the case in Boston (where I went to grad school),
>> and it's even more true here in South Orange County, CA.  There's a lot of
>> social pressure on the women here to be in "bikini shape."  So my health club
>> is about 70% women.  The number of women who are out there 3-5 days a week on
>> treadmills, stairmaster, and spinning classes?  A whole bunch.  Same thing with
>> my running club:

>I couldn't help but think of this thread this morning when we finished
>our cross-training group. It's people wanting to be better runners and
>is about 3/4 women - some very competitive, some just fun runners. When
>we finish up about 9am, their regular members start filtering in to use
>the equipment. I've only seen men come in at that time, and the ones
>this morning were particularly, well, super-sized ;)

>Another perspective on the pct of women working out: Could it be that
>the women tend to workout indoors while men workout outdoors - at least
>in your case? Or women workout in groups, men as loners? Or women are
>working hard at being better runners or whatever and the guys are
>mushing or mountain climbing or repairing house or watching tv? ;) Same
>observation, different interpretation. When I'm out running or mt biking
>on trails or road, I really am more likely to run into women than men
>around here, although it's about even on the mountain. Don't know if
>it's different in the big city or not.

>Snowshoe club a couple weeks ago was about half and half, but led by a
>woman (who BTW won the Resurrection Pass 50 during the summer -
>outright). Temperatures were about -20F or so.

>I have no idea why there's only a women's running team (used to have
>some minimal speed or distance requirements but doesn't anymore) out
>where I live - no men's team/club or coed.

>And I don't think it has anything to do with bikinis here ;)

>Dot

        Around here more women than men in pretty much any activity,
running, biking (Swimming is generally a wash) is pretty much unheard
of. However the imbalance is definately leveling off. We were quite
pleasantly surprised when we started or tri club and had a little over
30% female membership, a generally high number.
        Looking at local and even national race results I would guess
that most endurance sports are heavily bent toward male involvement.
At least that has been my experinace, can't remember a race yet that
I've seen a higher percent of women than men.(Otehr than an all women
race) Also don't have any local groups that are weighted more towards
women than men. This includes two running groups and a triclub. Same
goes for the local kids running club.

~Matt  

 
 
 

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Post by David Kerbe » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:33:45


Quote:


> > Sometimes, when one only has $3.75 in their jeans, a discount
> > package of day-old donuts can be stretched further than a bunch
> > of bananas and oranges.

> The other thing is that fresh fruits and veggies can be inconsistent. My
> mom used to say that poor people would often opt for cookies instead of
> fruit because the cookies would always be the same, but sometimes you'd
> pay for fruit and it would suck. Of course, I have no idea where she
> came up with this (or some of her other theories).

She probably said it because it's true.  I love fresh oranges, but about
half the time they are barely worth eating because they've been off the
tree so long that they're dry on the inside.  A good one is true heaven,
though.  Good peaches are even harder to find, even in a dedicated fruit
market.

--
Dave Kerber
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Post by Harold Buc » Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:50:33



Quote:

> She probably said it because it's true.  I love fresh oranges, but about
> half the time they are barely worth eating because they've been off the
> tree so long that they're dry on the inside.  A good one is true heaven,
> though.  Good peaches are even harder to find, even in a dedicated fruit
> market.

I think the rarest beast is a good nectarine. I've had so many that got
mushy and stringy inside without ever getting ripe.

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night,
 and party every day.
 Then it was every other day. . . ."
      -Homer J. Simpson