Hmmm. I've always thought that neither rice nor beans provided complete
protein, but that together they do and my nutrition pamphlet here agrees.
And I also thought that consuming protein after a hard ride was
important to rebuild damaged muscle tissue - that carbs were important to
consume before or during a ride for energy. Both the Armstrong/Carmichael
Performance Program book and the Friel training book seem to say the same
"Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere."
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:04:31 -0500, "Proctologically Violated??"
> TenKMan is essentially correct. It turns out that almost all
>vegetables/fruits are significantly more expensive than meat, PER CALORIE.
>Asparagus, per calorie, is thru the roof. There are only a few vegetables
>that are substantially cheaper than meat, per calorie: potatoes, corn,
>and some beans. Do the math.
> Now the question is, of the "cheap foods", which are the best?
>Clearly more information leads to better/more economical choices, but
>"good quality" food is by no means cheap. Goddamm salmon costs a fortune.
> But rice is likely the saving grace. Unbeknownst to most people,
>it is in fact a complete protein, just not as dense as meat--which is in
>fact a very, very good thing, the opinion of bodybuilding 'roidheads
>notwithstanding. Also, there are some studies floating around suggesting
>the protein in rice has some extra benefits, altho they slip my mind.
Two problems with rice: (1) very little protein or fiber content,
even though what little protein it has may be complete (2) high
glycemic index of most types of rice.
> Is chicken "healthier" than meat? Maybe. But more important
>the type of meat is the *cut* of the meat. Most meats, chosen properly,
>be quite lean. Just have to choose yer hormone.
> Excess protein, IMO, is more of a villian than fat. And not just
>my opinion, but of knowledgeable biochemists/physiologists/epidemiologists.
And worst of all is excessive intake of rapidly digestible (high GI)
carbs, like white bread and potatoes. These are only useful
immediately after strenous exercise.
>Fat is an easier target, tho.
>formerly Droll Troll
>> >Actually not true even at home. Try making a nice salad with romaine
>> >lettuce, spinach, carrots, and tomatoes. Then eat fish once a week and
>> >maybe pasta and grilled chicken ***s. It is more expensive to eat
>> >healthy than cheap and fatty.
>> What of that group is expensive? Chicken ***s are not at the
>> expensive end of the meats and there are a lot of fish that are
>> relatively cheap. If you aren't buying prepared foods or precut meats
>> designed to look pretty int the package and overcharge as a result,
>> healthy eating is no more expensive than 'regular' eating.
>> And the more expensive 'steak' fish are by and large the least
>> healthy. Hate that, because I love tuna steak and wish it would count
>> for something...
>> Picking through the few healthy fast food items is also no more
>> expensive - it just often isn't what you expect without a score card.
>> Know some people that buy the fully loaded McDonalds filet sandwiches
>> and think they are eating healthy.
>> Curtis L. Russell
>> Odenton, MD (USA)
>> Just someone on two wheels...