Boston's cheaters and Boston'2000

Boston's cheaters and Boston'2000

Post by Mike Larse » Sun, 23 May 1999 04:00:00


These "runners" must really be idiots.  What's the point of cheating if not
for a notable placement?  Don't get me wrong.  I'm not saying that it's
acceptable if it's for that reason.  It's WRONG to cheat, PERIOD.  Who are
they trying to impress?  Themselves?  Yeah, I'd be real impressed if I
cheated just so I could say I placed 900th in a field of 15,000.  Give me a
break.  No self-respect whatsoever.  Idiots!!!
 
 
 

Boston's cheaters and Boston'2000

Post by Andrew Hei » Sun, 23 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> These "runners" must really be idiots.  What's the point of cheating if not
> for a notable placement?  Don't get me wrong.  I'm not saying that it's
> acceptable if it's for that reason.  It's WRONG to cheat, PERIOD.  Who are
> they trying to impress?  Themselves?  Yeah, I'd be real impressed if I
> cheated just so I could say I placed 900th in a field of 15,000.  Give me a
> break.  No self-respect whatsoever.  Idiots!!!

Neither you nor I would be impressed by finishing 900 in a field of 15,000
(which by the way is an impressive time in the 2:50 range). But if you said you
finished the Boston Marathon to a non runner they would be impressed indeed.
The non runners where I work are impressed if I tell them I ran 5 miles before
work.

Yes idiots. But it is certainly easy to see where the motivation is.

Andy

 
 
 

Boston's cheaters and Boston'2000

Post by Conal Guan-Yow » Mon, 24 May 1999 04:00:00

: Ok, I can understand when people are cheating to get
: fame/money, but those 19 "athletes" weren't among
: age winners/prizers... Why, oh why?

I guess they also wanted to "lie" to themselves and say that they
actually ran a marathon better than what they could! Fame doesn't only
exist at the elite levels. I could also exist among one's smaller circle
of friends/colleagues etc.

Conal

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Department of Anthropology; University of California--Santa Cruz

 
 
 

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Post by Doug Frees » Mon, 24 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

> Ok, I can understand when people are cheating to get
> fame/money, but those 19 "athletes" weren't among
> age winners/prizers... Why, oh why?

Attention. If you were a qualified 3:20 runner and the
results book posted a 2:52 because you cheated,
you could get a lot of back slaps from the folks
back home.  Some steal false respect,  others steal
money.

--
Caveat Lector!

 
 
 

Boston's cheaters and Boston'2000

Post by MickJEva » Tue, 25 May 1999 04:00:00

Doug writes ::

Quote:
>> Some steal false respect.

I'm sure your right Doug - but it's hard to understand the self deception. More
than once I've seen a fellow runner run an extra 1/2 block at the end of a 20
mile training run because they'd started in a slightly different spot than
usual and wanted an "honest" 20 miler<g>

Mick Evans
www.open.org/wvs  

 
 
 

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Post by Jackha » Tue, 25 May 1999 04:00:00

Every year I see reports of different people finishing Boston  in the 4:00 to
4:30 hour  range. Are they all bandits? Are there many people who have
exemptions to the qualifying times?

Jack

 
 
 

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Post by Ray Charbonnea » Tue, 25 May 1999 04:00:00

Does this mean we all have to pay the BAA to refer to Boston 2000?

Oleg Shpyrko quoted:

Quote:

> Boston Marathon 2000?

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R107 - End User Computing
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Post by Tom Schipp » Tue, 25 May 1999 04:00:00

I know of at leat two people who had qualified and then failed to be within
30 minutes of their qualifying times at Boston.  In one case a young woman
from our running club ran a 3:35:00 for her first marathon last fall.  She
was some place in the 4:05-4:!0 rance at Boston this year.  She got sick
durning the race at one point spent over ten minutes in a porta pot line
out on the course.  The other individual I can think of ran a sub 3:25
qualifying time but just missed four hours at Boston by about two minutes.
Of course he was a CPA and had just come off a very busy tax season so his
training had suffered.

Tom

: Every year I see reports of different people finishing Boston  in the 4:00 to
: 4:30 hour  range. Are they all bandits? Are there many people who have
: exemptions to the qualifying times?

: Jack

 
 
 

Boston's cheaters and Boston'2000

Post by Mike Tenne » Tue, 25 May 1999 04:00:00

Quote:

>Doug writes ::

>>> Some steal false respect.

>I'm sure your right Doug - but it's hard to understand the self deception. More
>than once I've seen a fellow runner run an extra 1/2 block at the end of a 20
>mile training run because they'd started in a slightly different spot than
>usual and wanted an "honest" 20 miler<g>

Guilty. <g>  I hope I'm not the only one.

As for Boston,  I guess it might be for bragging rights, as suggested.
It's nice that they won't be able to point to something official. And
hopefully they'll have bragged enough to their friends that the
omission will be apparent.

Mike Tennent
"IronPenguin"
Ironman Canada '98
16:17:03

 
 
 

Boston's cheaters and Boston'2000

Post by Minti » Tue, 25 May 1999 04:00:00

i went to boston this year to watch two friends run it...  they discovered
[through quizzing people before the race] that there were several people
that did not qualify... it kinda took the wind out of their sails [just a
***y bit <g>]

Mintie


Quote:
> I know of at leat two people who had qualified and then failed to be
within
> 30 minutes of their qualifying times at Boston.  In one case a young woman
> from our running club ran a 3:35:00 for her first marathon last fall.  She
> was some place in the 4:05-4:!0 rance at Boston this year.  She got sick
> durning the race at one point spent over ten minutes in a porta pot line
> out on the course.  The other individual I can think of ran a sub 3:25
> qualifying time but just missed four hours at Boston by about two minutes.
> Of course he was a CPA and had just come off a very busy tax season so his
> training had suffered.

> Tom


> : Every year I see reports of different people finishing Boston  in the
4:00 to
> : 4:30 hour  range. Are they all bandits? Are there many people who have
> : exemptions to the qualifying times?

> : Jack