marathoner wannabe

marathoner wannabe

Post by Kristine Quilic » Tue, 29 Sep 1998 04:00:00


I have a question.  I have started running to train for a marathon and lose
weight ( I posted here in august to find out some details about that and you
were all so helpful). Well I have been running for about a month now at
least 4x per week.  I run approx.. 1.7 miles and run between 11:30 and 13:00
mins per mile. My question is this I have been measuring my heartrate after
running and it ranges from 240-250.  I measure it for 10 sec then multiply
it by 6.  I am 32 years old so by the standard 220-age deal 60% should be
113 and 80% should be 150. I started measuring my resting heartrate today
and it was 96 (same method).  I don't feel bad when I get done running and
after my shower I feel like I did before I went running. this is usually
30-60 mins after. So what am I doing wrong or not doing or could be doing or
should I be worried right now?  Sorry this turned out to be so long but I
felt all the background I could give you would be helpful.  By the way I am
5'2" and weigh 153.
Thanks again Kristine
 
 
 

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Post by Kovie Ada » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Unless you're a newborn baby (which is hard to be if you're 32) or a
physiological oddity, it seems pretty hard to believe that you HR is as high
as 240-250, even when running all-out. Most heart rate monitors don't even
go that high. You're probably not measuring it properly. Try counting for
15-20 seconds, or borrow a heart rate monitor. It's a good investment if you
plan to keep on running, and good ones can be had for less than $100 now.
It's far easier than stopping every few minutes to take your pulse.

As for running a marathon, I'm no expert as I'm training for my first. But
one thing I can tell you is that it takes a serious amount of time to get
into decent shape for one. I resumed running after a several month break
last February and started seriously training in April, and I'm just now
getting to the point where finishing a marathon seems doable. Six months
seems about the minimum for most people, and even longer for people just
getting into running. So make sure your first is no earlier than next
spring, and try to follow one of the many recommended training schedules out
there. Most recommend that you gradually increase your mileage to at least
30-40 miles per week, and long runs of up to 20 miles every two weeks. Good
luck!

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>I have a question.  I have started running to train for a marathon and lose
>weight ( I posted here in august to find out some details about that and
you
>were all so helpful). Well I have been running for about a month now at
>least 4x per week.  I run approx.. 1.7 miles and run between 11:30 and
13:00
>mins per mile. My question is this I have been measuring my heartrate after
>running and it ranges from 240-250.  I measure it for 10 sec then multiply
>it by 6.  I am 32 years old so by the standard 220-age deal 60% should be
>113 and 80% should be 150. I started measuring my resting heartrate today
>and it was 96 (same method).  I don't feel bad when I get done running and
>after my shower I feel like I did before I went running. this is usually
>30-60 mins after. So what am I doing wrong or not doing or could be doing
or
>should I be worried right now?  Sorry this turned out to be so long but I
>felt all the background I could give you would be helpful.  By the way I am
>5'2" and weigh 153.
>Thanks again Kristine


 
 
 

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Post by Sue » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Kristine,
Congratulations on your persistence (one month, way to go!!). And keep up
the good work. Your post concerns me, however. A resting heart rate should
be taken the very first thing in the morning, when you first wake up,
before moving around. If you are measuring it correctly, 96 is too high.
Are you taking any simulants or medications, such as asthma inhalers?? A
heart rate of 240-250 when exercising at the pace you are running is also
too high. Four beats per second is WAY too high!!! Given your history and
your ht/wt I would very highly suggest that you pay a visit to your primary
care provider before continuing your exercise program to rule out any
underlying conditions which may be causing your tachycardia. Such a high
rate of beating can be very dangerous, so please see your doc or nurse
practitioner. I don't think that you're doing anything "wrong", I just
think that your body is trying to tell you something, so keep us posted on
what you find out!!

Sue



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> I have a question.  I have started running to train for a marathon and
lose
> weight ( I posted here in august to find out some details about that and
you
> were all so helpful). Well I have been running for about a month now at
> least 4x per week.  I run approx.. 1.7 miles and run between 11:30 and
13:00
> mins per mile. My question is this I have been measuring my heartrate
after
> running and it ranges from 240-250.  I measure it for 10 sec then
multiply
> it by 6.  I am 32 years old so by the standard 220-age deal 60% should be
> 113 and 80% should be 150. I started measuring my resting heartrate today
> and it was 96 (same method).  I don't feel bad when I get done running
and
> after my shower I feel like I did before I went running. this is usually
> 30-60 mins after. So what am I doing wrong or not doing or could be doing
or
> should I be worried right now?  Sorry this turned out to be so long but I
> felt all the background I could give you would be helpful.  By the way I
am
> 5'2" and weigh 153.
> Thanks again Kristine


 
 
 

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Post by Meg » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

I will add to the original HR question. I have a mental illness and have
to take a variety of psychotropic ***, one of which is Ritalin. My
resting heart rate is near 100! I've been running for about 3 weeks and
run about 3 miles, 5-6 days per week. I wonder if I need to see a doctor,
or if I should just assume my high HR is from the ***. :(

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Post by Kovie Ada » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

I'm no doctor, but I understand that Ritalin is an amphetamine, which I
imagine is going to raise your HR. It's a good idea to see a doctor before
beginning any new exercise program if you've been sedentary for a while, but
I think given the medications you're on, especially this one, that it would
be an especially good idea to see one to make sure you're not overdoing
things and that your basic health is OK.

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>I will add to the original HR question. I have a mental illness and have
>to take a variety of psychotropic ***, one of which is Ritalin. My
>resting heart rate is near 100! I've been running for about 3 weeks and
>run about 3 miles, 5-6 days per week. I wonder if I need to see a doctor,
>or if I should just assume my high HR is from the ***. :(

>Megs

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Post by Daniel Castill » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Unless you're a newborn baby (which is hard to be if you're 32) or a
> physiological oddity, it seems pretty hard to believe that you HR is as high
> as 240-250, even when running all-out. Most heart rate monitors don't even
> go that high. You're probably not measuring it properly. Try counting for
> 15-20 seconds, or borrow a heart rate monitor. It's a good investment if you
> plan to keep on running, and good ones can be had for less than $100 now.
> It's far easier than stopping every few minutes to take your pulse.

> As for running a marathon, I'm no expert as I'm training for my first. But
> one thing I can tell you is that it takes a serious amount of time to get
> into decent shape for one. I resumed running after a several month break
> last February and started seriously training in April, and I'm just now
> getting to the point where finishing a marathon seems doable. Six months
> seems about the minimum for most people, and even longer for people just
> getting into running. So make sure your first is no earlier than next
> spring, and try to follow one of the many recommended training schedules out
> there. Most recommend that you gradually increase your mileage to at least
> 30-40 miles per week, and long runs of up to 20 miles every two weeks. Good
> luck!

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> >I have a question.  I have started running to train for a marathon and lose
> >weight ( I posted here in august to find out some details about that and
> you
> >were all so helpful). Well I have been running for about a month now at
> >least 4x per week.  I run approx.. 1.7 miles and run between 11:30 and
> 13:00
> >mins per mile. My question is this I have been measuring my heartrate after
> >running and it ranges from 240-250.  I measure it for 10 sec then multiply
> >it by 6.  I am 32 years old so by the standard 220-age deal 60% should be
> >113 and 80% should be 150. I started measuring my resting heartrate today
> >and it was 96 (same method).  I don't feel bad when I get done running and
> >after my shower I feel like I did before I went running. this is usually
> >30-60 mins after. So what am I doing wrong or not doing or could be doing
> or
> >should I be worried right now?  Sorry this turned out to be so long but I
> >felt all the background I could give you would be helpful.  By the way I am
> >5'2" and weigh 153.
> >Thanks again Kristine

my average distance has been 3.2 miles 3 times a week. I don't
understand why I'm not able to increase the distance. I want to try an
do some of the running events around my area, but I can't seem to
average my rate to 6-8 minute per mile. I know this is the best average
for anyone who desires to compete in any event. Please I need your
advice. I'm 37 years and 195 lbs.
Daniel
 
 
 

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Post by Daniel Castill » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


> > Unless you're a newborn baby (which is hard to be if you're 32) or a
> > physiological oddity, it seems pretty hard to believe that you HR is as high
> > as 240-250, even when running all-out. Most heart rate monitors don't even
> > go that high. You're probably not measuring it properly. Try counting for
> > 15-20 seconds, or borrow a heart rate monitor. It's a good investment if you
> > plan to keep on running, and good ones can be had for less than $100 now.
> > It's far easier than stopping every few minutes to take your pulse.

> > As for running a marathon, I'm no expert as I'm training for my first. But
> > one thing I can tell you is that it takes a serious amount of time to get
> > into decent shape for one. I resumed running after a several month break
> > last February and started seriously training in April, and I'm just now
> > getting to the point where finishing a marathon seems doable. Six months
> > seems about the minimum for most people, and even longer for people just
> > getting into running. So make sure your first is no earlier than next
> > spring, and try to follow one of the many recommended training schedules out
> > there. Most recommend that you gradually increase your mileage to at least
> > 30-40 miles per week, and long runs of up to 20 miles every two weeks. Good
> > luck!

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> > >I have a question.  I have started running to train for a marathon and lose
> > >weight ( I posted here in august to find out some details about that and
> > you
> > >were all so helpful). Well I have been running for about a month now at
> > >least 4x per week.  I run approx.. 1.7 miles and run between 11:30 and
> > 13:00
> > >mins per mile. My question is this I have been measuring my heartrate after
> > >running and it ranges from 240-250.  I measure it for 10 sec then multiply
> > >it by 6.  I am 32 years old so by the standard 220-age deal 60% should be
> > >113 and 80% should be 150. I started measuring my resting heartrate today
> > >and it was 96 (same method).  I don't feel bad when I get done running and
> > >after my shower I feel like I did before I went running. this is usually
> > >30-60 mins after. So what am I doing wrong or not doing or could be doing
> > or
> > >should I be worried right now?  Sorry this turned out to be so long but I
> > >felt all the background I could give you would be helpful.  By the way I am
> > >5'2" and weigh 153.
> > >Thanks again Kristine

> my average distance has been 3.2 miles 3 times a week. I don't
> understand why I'm not able to increase the distance. I want to try an
> do some of the running events around my area, but I can't seem to
> average my rate to 6-8 minute per mile. I know this is the best average
> for anyone who desires to compete in any event. Please I need your
> advice. I'm 37 years and 195 lbs.
> Daniel

 
 
 

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Post by Kristine Quilic » Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Okay I ran today and after I got done I measured my hr it was 198 which is
almost my max for my age. I don't know what I was doing wrong before except
this time I measured it for 30 sec instead of 10. In case you all are
wondering I am not planning to run a marathon or anything close to it until
next year. I am one of great study and planning and know what I need to do
before I even think about training for one which I plan to be in January 99.
 
 
 

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Post by John Foot » Thu, 01 Oct 1998 04:00:00

My only comment is that if you wait to plan for one, you'll find ten million
reaons not to do it.
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> Okay I ran today and after I got done I measured my hr it was 198 which is
> almost my max for my age. I don't know what I was doing wrong before except
> this time I measured it for 30 sec instead of 10. In case you all are
> wondering I am not planning to run a marathon or anything close to it until
> next year. I am one of great study and planning and know what I need to do
> before I even think about training for one which I plan to be in January 99.

 
 
 

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Post by jock » Fri, 02 Oct 1998 04:00:00

i'd have to say that u're probably reading your heart rate wrong..get
a heart rate monitor and try that out...i wouldn't suggest trying to
run a marathon the way you are at the moment..if you're completely
screwed after 1.7 miles, try slowing down a bit and making it to 3
miles..distance helps..i've never actually read one, however there are
books that actually train you to be in marathon shape...ciao

On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:54:16 -0400, "Kristine Quilici"

Quote:

>I have a question.  I have started running to train for a marathon and lose
>weight ( I posted here in august to find out some details about that and you
>were all so helpful). Well I have been running for about a month now at
>least 4x per week.  I run approx.. 1.7 miles and run between 11:30 and 13:00
>mins per mile. My question is this I have been measuring my heartrate after
>running and it ranges from 240-250.  I measure it for 10 sec then multiply
>it by 6.  I am 32 years old so by the standard 220-age deal 60% should be
>113 and 80% should be 150. I started measuring my resting heartrate today
>and it was 96 (same method).  I don't feel bad when I get done running and
>after my shower I feel like I did before I went running. this is usually
>30-60 mins after. So what am I doing wrong or not doing or could be doing or
>should I be worried right now?  Sorry this turned out to be so long but I
>felt all the background I could give you would be helpful.  By the way I am
>5'2" and weigh 153.
>Thanks again Kristine

 
 
 

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Post by Kovie Ada » Fri, 02 Oct 1998 04:00:00

By all means don't wait too long to plan for one if you really want to run a
marathon. But if it's your first, and you've only been running for a few
months, 1/99 is really pushing it. We're talking 3-4 months of training,
depending on when it falls in January, and assuming you start training
today. If you're already in fairly decent shape and have been running a
while, I'm sure this is enough time for a decent marathon experience (i.e.
you'll finish). But if one or both of these isn't the case, which a HR of
198 seems to suggest, then I'd strongly suggest you reconsider the date of
your first marathon. Why? You might get so discouraged by the experience of
training for and running a marathon on so tight a schedule that you might
give up running and exercize altogether. Or worse, you might get sick or
injured in the process. There's only so much much a body can take, and a
physical limit to how fast that it can get into shape.

At the very least, get a complete physical and consult with a local running
club about your plans. Good luck.

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>Okay I ran today and after I got done I measured my hr it was 198 which is
>almost my max for my age. I don't know what I was doing wrong before except
>this time I measured it for 30 sec instead of 10. In case you all are
>wondering I am not planning to run a marathon or anything close to it until
>next year. I am one of great study and planning and know what I need to do
>before I even think about training for one which I plan to be in January
99.

 
 
 

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Post by Kristine Quilic » Sat, 03 Oct 1998 04:00:00

okay once again--let me make this clear i did not mean i was running the
marathon i january 99 i meant that i was going to sit down with a training
schedule and figure out what i need to do to run one right now i am just
getting back into running which i boycotted when i got out of the military
for obvious reasons. and yes a hr monitor is out of the question for the
time being because i don't have the money. i am leaning toward the marine
corp marathon in oct (i think) 99.
Kristine
thank you all for your helpful suggestions though.