Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Eur » Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:29:40


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> More importantly you get much better stability from Asics with Gel
> instead of air. Anyone wonder why nobody else uses the air systems?
> They are just too unstable for most runners, and promote injurys.

I actually saw a pair of the Asics, but the price scared me off.
However, I'm thinking of trying them out after I read a few decent
reviews on them. Is there a particular model, or all of the Gel
cushioned ones are relatively the same?
 
 
 

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Eur » Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:31:34


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> Great.  A diary about ex jogging shoes, that some chunker has squashed
> to death.  That sounds like an interesting read.  Further proof that the
> internet is just a vast wasteland.

How very thoughtful of you. Nothing makes a new person more welcome
than a bitter jackass voicing her negative opinion in a community that
should be positive and supportive.

Silly me - next time, I'll refrain from talking about RUNNING SHOES in
a RUNNING newsgroup.

Retard.

 
 
 

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Donovan Rebbich » Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:49:50


Quote:
>I actually saw a pair of the Asics, but the price scared me off.
>However, I'm thinking of trying them out after I read a few decent
>reviews on them. Is there a particular model, or all of the Gel
>cushioned ones are relatively the same?

Asics are far less than a comparable pair of Nikes. Remember, you get
what you pay for with most brands, but Nike is an exception. A pair of
Asics 2080's will cost you around $90, but Nike has no shoe anywhere
near as good as that, so the value is well worth it.
I'm not sure if all the gel models are basically the same, the stat
sheets say they aren't, but I'm not sure how accurate those are.
Gel is much more stable to run on than air. Nike are the only douche
bags who use it, know why? Air is free, gel cost money. Many other
shoes (non-running models) use air, but we're talking running shoes
here.  While the tiny cost difference for gel may seem miniscule, but
it isn't when you multiply it by 10 million shoes.
As with any shoe, just be sure to buy the right model for your running
style. If they reccomend nike, go elsewhere.

 
 
 

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Donovan Rebbich » Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:50:41


Quote:
>Retard.

You have her pegged.
 
 
 

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Doug Frees » Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:24:19

Quote:

>>More importantly you get much better stability from Asics with Gel
>>instead of air. Anyone wonder why nobody else uses the air systems?
>>They are just too unstable for most runners, and promote injurys.

   Just ignore the ***s.

Quote:
> I actually saw a pair of the Asics, but the price scared me off.

Probably the Kayano which is $100+

Quote:
> However, I'm thinking of trying them out after I read a few decent
> reviews on them. Is there a particular model, or all of the Gel
> cushioned ones are relatively the same?

Before you read reviews about running shoes you need to understand
what shoe is correct for you. I would suggest ou visit a mom and pop
running shoe store, bring and old pair of shoes, and see what they
suggest.

--
Caveat Lector
"the further you go outside, the further you go inside" - B. McKibben
Doug Freese

 
 
 

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Eur » Thu, 28 Aug 2003 04:09:11

Quote:

> Asics are far less than a comparable pair of Nikes. Remember, you get
> what you pay for with most brands, but Nike is an exception. A pair of
> Asics 2080's will cost you around $90, but Nike has no shoe anywhere
> near as good as that, so the value is well worth it.
> I'm not sure if all the gel models are basically the same, the stat
> sheets say they aren't, but I'm not sure how accurate those are.
> Gel is much more stable to run on than air. Nike are the only douche
> bags who use it, know why? Air is free, gel cost money. Many other
> shoes (non-running models) use air, but we're talking running shoes
> here.  While the tiny cost difference for gel may seem miniscule, but
> it isn't when you multiply it by 10 million shoes.
> As with any shoe, just be sure to buy the right model for your running
> style. If they reccomend nike, go elsewhere.

I had no idea that the opinion of Nike was so very low in here -
obviously my review angered a few runners, and for that, I apologize.
I haven't tried all that many running shoes/brands since I started: A
Saucony, a Nike, and a few Adidas including the Menko M. To date, the
Pegasus worked damn well for me, my style of running, and my build,
but I'm definitely open to suggestions!

Is the Gel more succeptible to breaking? Aside from price (which isn't
a concern for me anymore, now that I know first hand what bargain
shopping can do to my shins and feet) the stability of the gel shoes
when under lots of pressure was a concern.

Regardless, I've heard nothing but good things about Ascics, and will
definitely give them a shot. Are their shoes friendly towards a wider
foot?

 
 
 

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Donovan Rebbich » Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:41:41


Quote:
>I had no idea that the opinion of Nike was so very low in here -

Only by the intelligent amongst us.

Quote:
>obviously my review angered a few runners, and for that, I apologize.
>I haven't tried all that many running shoes/brands since I started: A
>Saucony, a Nike, and a few Adidas including the Menko M. To date, the
>Pegasus worked damn well for me, my style of running, and my build,
>but I'm definitely open to suggestions!

>Is the Gel more succeptible to breaking?

Never, ever heard of any breaking.

Quote:
>Aside from price (which isn't
>a concern for me anymore, now that I know first hand what bargain
>shopping can do to my shins and feet) the stability of the gel shoes
>when under lots of pressure was a concern.

Ridiculous.

Quote:

>Regardless, I've heard nothing but good things about Ascics, and will
>definitely give them a shot. Are their shoes friendly towards a wider
>foot?

Very.
 
 
 

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Doug Frees » Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:46:23

Quote:

> I had no idea that the opinion of Nike was so very low in here -
> obviously my review angered a few runners, and for that, I apologize.

Don't apologize. Yes there are some very vocal people that just love
to pipe up and *** about Nike. If Nike has single problem it is
they make a narrow shoe and many can not wear them. There is NO,
repeat NO data that suggests a Nike shoe is any worse than any other
brand. Some will goes as far to suggest their shoes cause injuries -
this is crock of shit. There are many people that confidently and
consistently use Nike shoes. They simply grow tired of those vocal
few and there pissing contest and prefer to avoid the flack.

As you read more of this group you will soon discover the reasonable
people from the trolls and those with an agenda.

If you find a Nike model that fits your foot and allows you to run
without a problem then buy a dozen pairs and enjoy your running.

Quote:
> Pegasus worked damn well for me, my style of running, and my build,
> but I'm definitely open to suggestions!

If the Pegasus worked for you and they are still made then continue
to use them. Don't change because a few Nike haters run off at the
mouth.

Quote:
> Is the Gel more succeptible to breaking?

Personally I have been wearing the Asics 20nn  since the 2000 model
a bunch of years ago probably 40-60 pairs and have never had a
problem with the gel. Models with air have had problems because
unlike the gel, the air is exposed and can be punctured and some
earlier design let them leak.

Quote:
> Regardless, I've heard nothing but good things about Ascics, and will
> definitely give them a shot.

I'm not anti Nike but I am pro Ascis because they work for me. FWIW,
they are also a very popular brand with the 20nn leading the pack.

 > Are their shoes friendly towards a wider foot?

Yes, almost all their models come in extra widths though  EE.

--
Caveat Lector
"the further you go outside, the further you go inside" - B. McKibben
Doug Freese

 
 
 

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Sean » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:33:36


Quote:
>Nike Air Pegasus 2002

When I started running again 8 months ago I was 240 lbs (200 now)
and I knew if I didn't have decent shoes I'd be doomed to foot
problems. So, off I went to a very good running store Marathon Sports
in the peoples republic of cambridge, mass. The stick figure sales
person took one look at me and said he had 2 potential models for
someone "my size".

This being Cambridge he hesitantly mentioned that one of the models
was a Nike. I immediately dismissed Nike as an option and he nodded
knowingly before heading off to the back room to get what was to be my
only option in a store full of running shoes.

What's funny about the anti-Nike thing is I'm 100% sure that he
assumed I was boycotting Nike because of their allegedly poor
treatment of foreign workers, etc. etc.  I don't really care about
that. What I do care about and the reason I haven't spent a dime
on any product with that dopy swoosh on it is the racebaiting
commercial Nike ran when Tiger Woods turned pro 7 years ago.

Even tho Tiger is my favorite athlete I'll never buy anything made by
Nike, those race baiting cororate a-holes. I laughed my ass off when
Tiger finally dumped that piece of ***Nike driver a few weeks ago.
They pay him 20 mil a year but even that isn't enough to get him to
use their driver.

Altho to stick figure shoe sales boy I was a "compassionate, caring
holier than thou" liberal just like his other customers that boycott
Nike.

Anyways, back to the shoes. He sold me a pair of Brooks Adrenaline GTS
for 90 bucks and I've been very happy with them. He also conviced me
to go a half size larger than I would have normally chosen which was
more good advice.

Sean