Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Brief shoe review for heavy runner

Post by Eur » Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:53:40


I've nearly completed my first web site, devoted to those distance
runners among us who are a tad bigger than a "medium" shirt can
contain. In the meantime, I just wanted to tell you guys about a
couple of shoes I've gone through in my quest to find the best shoe
for a heavy guy.

I've been lurking for quite a while, and honestly, have fallen in love
with the group - the vast majority of you are the kind, funny, just
plain nice people that I wish all usenet's were saturated with.

Little background on me. I'm Alex, a 26 year old guy here in Toronto
Canada - part time Masters student, ful time Communications specialist
for a software company. I started running in mid-April of 2002 when,
at 310lbs and 25 years of age, I couldn't climb 20 steps without
losing breath and sweating. After a year and a bit, I'm doing 12km a
night, in under an hour, and am now at 228lbs. My father is Russian
and my mother a full blown Newfie - I know I'll always be big, and may
never run a 26 mile marathon, but I've absolutely fallen in love with
running. Besides, the weight loss is now secondary, since I can
actually see arm veins and abdominal muscles. Did I mention how much I
adore running? *grin*

Nike Air Pegasus 2002
To quote our gangsta friends, this shoe is the shizzle, yo. I really
can't even begin to say enough good things about this product, so I'll
begin by expressing my initial feelings towards it, and the company it
came from. Nike, in my eyes, was the anti-christ of the athletics
world, something of a Sony - big price because of name, not for
anything else. Sadly, it took almost eight months before I tried my
first pair on, at the Running Room in downtown Oakville Ontario. At
that point, I was down to 260lbs, so sufficed to say, cushioon meant
EVERYTHING to me. Add to that the fact that my hooves are particularly
wide, and I was shocked when the sales associate had me narrowed down
to a pair of EE New Balance, and the Nike Air Pegasus 2002, an
unsightly white sneaker with even more unsightly yellow stripes
surrounding the "swoosh." Despite my best efforts to the latter, I was
forced to come to the conclusion that the Nike's felt spongier, and
more comfortable. What the heck...at least I'll have something to
complain about when they fall apart in a few weeks. Here I am, six
months later, sitting next to three new pairs of Pegs that I purchased
at a Sport Check sale this past weekend, still secure in the knowledge
that my original winged horses still have a few more 12km adventures
left in them.

THE LOOK
Ugly. Plain. Think of a negative adjective, and chances are it applies
to this shoe. I have two different versions of the same model, and in
both cases, they're just about as likely to turn heads as an '89
Tercel at an *** car show. The lines are plain and unflashy, the
styling looks almost brick-like and unaerodynamic, and even the
reflectors seem haphazardly placed. If you're looking for a shoe to
make some eyes light up at the next charity 5km, then run away from
these shoes - run fast, run far.

THE PRICE
Almost as ugly as the look. *Grin* Not outrageous, but at $119
Canadian, most people are guaranteed to pass them over for one of the
flashier pairs that just look like they warrant a high price. however,
if you're lucky like I was, some stores will be eagerly shedding their
Pegasus 2002 to clear inventory space, which is how I was able to grab
three pairs at $69.99 each. Then again, for the sheer quality of the
shoe, price isn't so much of a factor - not that it really should be
when taking care of your feet during a run.

THE FEEL
Think of what it would be like to have a thousand angels make sweet,
glorious love to your feet. That would ALMOST come close to the feel
of these shoes. the first thing that shocked me about these sneaks is
the complete lack of impact when pounding the pavement for an hour at
a time. In short, the cushioning in these shoes is spectacular. My
large frame hammers these things, and the heel and forefoot cushioning
absorbs every last bit of it, giving me a little extra bounce, and
altogether eliminating the pain in my shins and knees that had become
all too common with previous shoes. This is wonderfully coupled with
an extra wide body construction, making the shoe feel more natural
when slipped on to a fatter foot like mine. Everything about this shoe
is comfortable, and feels natural - it isn't overyly tight anywhere,
the cushioning on the bottom is virtually everywhere, and the solid
body construction keeps your tootsies safe from the elements.

THE VALUE
In a word - unbelievable. After six months, and daily abuse through
snow, slush and summer, these things are still going strong. The body
is still solid and hole-free, the sole is intact with little sign of
wear and tear, and the cushion itself is only now beginning to wear
down. Its rare that I say this about anything that I purchase, but I
almost feel as if I'm ripping Nike off for only paying them as much as
I have, considering how much value I've gotten out of the Pegs.

CONCLUSION
If you're a big, heavy runner with big needs, this shoe will be a
heaven sent, end of story. the cushion is solid, reliable, and
comfortable, while the overall construction seems tailor made for a
wider foot. Rarely does a single product so completely change my
opinion of a company - the Air Pegasus 2002 has done such a thing to
my perception of Nike.

Saucony Grid Evolve
My purchasing of these shoes is the result of a tragic series of
events, all of which climaxed in the one, unforgivable, life altering
crime; taking the advice of a high school foot jockey at a local Sport
Mart. I paid a visit to the new Sport Mart near my home about four
months into owning the Pegasus 2002, hoping to get another pair of
shoes to alleviate the wear on my favorite little Nike's. Immediately
upon my arrival, an eager young sales agent - we'll call him Spanky
McStupid - bound up to me like a rabbit on a $200 a day *** habit,
insisting that he help me choose the perfect shoe.

MISTAKE #1: Not going back to Running Room like I should have.

Spanky had me remove my shoes and socks, and had me walk back and
forth just as my friends at Running Room had. The only difference was
that the employees at the latter actualy seemed as though they knew
what they were talking about. Spanky hummed and hawed, mumbling that
he really couldn't tell from this angle, and suggested that I try on
the Saucony's. I mentioned that I had really liked the Air Pegasus, to
which he replied "Those are Nike's entry level, bottom of the line
running shoe." The Saucony, he told me, was better because less money
was spent on advertising, and more on development.

MISTAKE #2: Eating up the lies like a fat kid finding a box of
smarties.

I tried the Grid Evolve on, was sufficiently satisfied that I was
sticking it to "the man," and went home to enjoy my new secret weapon.

THE LOOK
Meh. Looks like your standard ass kicking running shoe. Striking grey
lines intersect the white underbody, with splashes of red thrown in
for good measure. The result is a clean looking shoe, not as flashy as
the Adidas Menko M, yet not as plain as the Pegasus. credit to where
its due - the Saucony looks like a professional runner.

THE PRICE
Quite reasonable! At $69.99, it felt like I was truly scoring a
bargain and a half. They seem to be at the lower end of the price
spectrum when it comes to running shoes, something which I chalked up
to Spanky McStupid's marketing explaination. Please note that this was
the LAST time I ever used price as a comparison point when shopping
for running shoes.

THE FEEL
I'm still recovering from these beasts. If you are a large runner,
stay away from these shoes! The funky mesh cushioning in the heel felt
amazing in the store, but once out on the road, it gave a little too
much, creating a strange sinking heel running style. Couple this with
virtually non-existent toe cushion, and it makes for a very
uncomfortable run. It felt as if the shoe couldn't meet the demand
that my weight was placing on them. All of a sudden, I was once again
suffering from severe shin pains, and was the proud new owner of a
mercifully short lived bout of Plantar Fasciitis.

Please keep in mind that I'm blaming myself, and the salesman at Sport
Mart, more than I am the shoe or Saucony. On a much smaller, more
typical runner frame, that heel cushion would be amazing - when just
walking in them, I could feel that web spring back after every step.
They just aren't meant for bigger people, period.

THE VALUE
Hard to say, considering how little I've used them. They feel solid,
and as stated above, the heel cushion is absolutely fabulous for
smaller runners. Admittedly, I'm somewhat depressed by the fact that I
can't use them - I was amazed at how comfortable they were on the
sides, and felt even nicer than any Adidas shoe I tried. For the
price, this shoe would be a fantastic value to a runner with the right
build.

CONCLUSION
Not for the heavy of frame at all. The heel support system is
brilliant, but just not enough when confronted with a little extra
cushion for the pushin'. A narrower foot and lighter body would do
wonders in this little sneaker, so while I can give credit where
credit is due, I just can't recommend this shoe for larger runners.

 
 
 

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Post by 26.2 » Sun, 24 Aug 2003 05:10:12


Nike sucks, you are a beginner, a know-nothing, and an arsehole. You
aren't fit to give your newbie opinion.

 
 
 

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Post by tmac » Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:22:58

The fact that Nike is a company of questionable ethics does not negate the
fact that you, 26.2, are a self absorbed, rude little***!


Quote:

> Nike sucks, you are a beginner, a know-nothing, and an arsehole. You
> aren't fit to give your newbie opinion.


 
 
 

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Post by O » Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:39:00

Your article is not believable.  Why would anyone write such a long
drawn out article unless Nike paid you or you work for them in some
regard.  Your article is bullshit and you are as believable as a used
car salesman.
 
 
 

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Post by mtnclym.. » Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:11:25

Good review, thanks for the insight. It's useful to hear from real
people instead of "***" runners who get blown off the road in a
wind. Ignore the predictable anti-Nike trolls and keep using what works
for you.
 
 
 

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Post by Beach Run.. » Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:04:47

I do best with old Sacouny wides.  They have narrow heels and wide toes.
Nothing else works for me.   They've changed their shoes, and made them
stiffer.
New balance are short, 832s were as close as possible, but my toe hit the
front,
and the next size up didn't fit my arch in the right place.

Bob

Quote:

> Good review, thanks for the insight. It's useful to hear from real
> people instead of "***" runners who get blown off the road in a
> wind. Ignore the predictable anti-Nike trolls and keep using what works
> for you.

 
 
 

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Post by Rosborn » Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:34:32

I've been a jogger for around 30 years, over 200 lbs most of that time.  Too
big to be a real runner, but it's great for controlling weight and diabetes.
I've tried many shoes, but the Pegasus has been my favorite, I often get knee
and achilles pains from others.  I don't work for Nike, don't know anyone who
does, and don't own Nike stock, I just like their shoes because they give me
many miles of painless running.  Keep up the good work Euri.
 
 
 

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Post by Miss Anne Thro » Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:46:25

Great.  A diary about ex jogging shoes, that some chunker has squashed
to death.  That sounds like an interesting read.  Further proof that the
internet is just a vast wasteland.
 
 
 

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Post by Rroge » Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:00:16

No you ***ing dumbass, they give you many miles of painfree running,
at a %50 higher price than other comparable shoes. You are an idiot
and a liar, Nikes didn't exist 30 years ago.



Quote:
>I've been a jogger for around 30 years, over 200 lbs most of that time.  Too
>big to be a real runner, but it's great for controlling weight and diabetes.
>I've tried many shoes, but the Pegasus has been my favorite, I often get knee
>and achilles pains from others.  I don't work for Nike, don't know anyone who
>does, and don't own Nike stock, I just like their shoes because they give me
>many miles of painless running.  Keep up the good work Euri.

 
 
 

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Post by Robert Do » Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:38:31

I am a little lighter than you 195lb 40 mi per wk or so.  My
experiance with the Air pegasus is a little different.
Bought them a couple of years ago and they did feel great till the air
pad seperated from the sole.
I had to trash them  after 200 miles. It was the only time I have ever
bought Nike's.
 Maybe the new ones are better. I get good durability and cushion from
Asics gel Cumulus
 
 
 

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Post by Donovan Rebbech » Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:14:46


Quote:
>I am a little lighter than you 195lb 40 mi per wk or so.  My
>experiance with the Air pegasus is a little different.
>Bought them a couple of years ago and they did feel great till the air
>pad seperated from the sole.
>I had to trash them  after 200 miles. It was the only time I have ever
>bought Nike's.
> Maybe the new ones are better. I get good durability and cushion from
>Asics gel Cumulus

More importantly you get much better stability from Asics with Gel
instead of air. Anyone wonder why nobody else uses the air systems?
They are just too unstable for most runners, and promote injurys.
 
 
 

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Post by Donovan Rebbech » Mon, 25 Aug 2003 05:11:41



The mans whole life summed up in one post...

 
 
 

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Post by Rosborn » Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:31:33

Thanks for the  wonderful day in your neighborhood Mr Rogers. There must be
more to your story, what did Nike do to turn you into such a psycho?
 
 
 

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Post by Donovan Rebbich » Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:37:29

Bauerman butt***ed me twenty years ago, and it still hurts.



Quote:
>Thanks for the  wonderful day in your neighborhood Mr Rogers. There must be
>more to your story, what did Nike do to turn you into such a psycho?