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Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and
goals.

Sun: 10.6 mi.
Mon: 8.4 mi.
Tues:  Off
Wed: 8 mi.
Thurs: 7.5 mi.
Fri: 7.3 mi.
Sat: Off

On Wednesday, part of my run was on a trail.
I think I moved my foot awkardly or something
because toward the end of the trail my knee
started to hurt slightly and has been with me since.

I ran anyhow on Thursday and Friday but went slower,
7.5 mph on Thursday and 7.3 on Friday.

The pain occurs only when I bend my knee, bringing
my lower leg inward.  Additionally, it is a slight bruising
feeling on a single inner part of my kneecap.

From whatI have read, it seems to be "runners knee"
though I'm not entirely sure.  I'm just icing it and heating
it and will run tomorrow.

--
conrad

Sunday 10/12 3.2 miles
Monday 10/13 1.34 miles
Tuesday 10/14 5.27 miles
Wednesday 10/15 Off
Thursday 10/16 4.3 miles
Friday 10/17 3.51 miles
Saturday 10/18 4 miles

Tracked with Nike+

I'm a 49 year old male that started walking about 2 months ago and I
recently added jogging. The jog is a small part of the distance, but
increasing each day. This after many, many years of inactivity.

I hope to run (not walk) in a local 5k by December.

--

Stan in NJ

Plans to ease back into training thwarted by a minor cold.
However, I found a nice place to go for runs on the weekends!

Summary
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 Time    Type       Volume  Time  Details
13 Oct -------- OFF ------------  Planned rest day
14 Oct -------- OFF ------------  Down with cold
15 Oct -------- OFF ------------  Down with cold
16 Oct -------- OFF ------------  Down with cold

Totals
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Total:    170 min

Goals
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5k XC, Nov 1

Details
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17 Oct: Gym day, not too hard, focusing on high reps and endurance.
Ran to/from the gym and did very very light squats and deadlifts to
activate legs.

18 Oct: Very easy night-time run to see how I feel.

19 Oct: Went to the dunes at the beach! It's only a 10 minute drive
and the dunes have varying terrain (sand, mud, grass, gravel, paved
roads).  It also appears a nice place to go barefoot.  The dunes are
at least 20m high and fun enough to run on, but there is nothing much
higher - no ascent seemed longer than a minute or so.  It is still
better than nothing.  For something longer I'd have to drive a couple
of hours to the foothills at Maastricht.

day     miles

13      0
14      5.5
15      4.5
16      7.5
17      4.5
18      4.5
19      6

Week Total      32.5
YTD total       1246.7

Uninspiring.  Kind of getting into a maintenance mode, preserving
energy for other, more pressing matters.

Good running all

Frank

Welcome Stan, and I wish you consistent progress.

Frank

10/6 off
10/7 run 4:14 moderate 3,460' hiking trails Big Indian, Eagle mountains
10/8 bike 1:17 very easy 860' roads
10/9 run 1:02 very easy 120' cinder
       bike 0:59 very easy 240' mtn bike
10/10 off, farm work
10/11 bike 2:03 moderate 2,160' mtn bike, 1/2 day farm work
10/12 off, farm work
10/13 off, exhausted
10/14 run 2:03 easy/mod 1,880' hiking trails
         bike 0:26 easy 240' mtn bike
10/15 bike 0:42 very easy 240'
         walk 0:32
10/16 off, exhausted
10/17 off, exhausted
10/18 run 0:57 easy 100' cinder
         bike 0:48 easy 240' mtn bike
10/19 bike 1:02 v.easy/easy 800' roads

5:16 running, 4:19 biking;
3:00 running, 2:58 biking

I felt so dead tired this week that I seriously doubt I'll run that 50k
next weekend, but who knows. I ended up bonking on 2 hour bike ride up
at the farm last weekend; there were too many hills. For several weeks
I've felt a lack of power in my running and also particularly when
biking up hills. These are clear signs I was trying to do too much off a
weak base. Add to that a lack of quality sleep and you have a training
trainwreak.

Since I like to write about my outings so that I can re-live them and
email it to friends, I'll stick this in here also:

Big Indian and Eagle mountains: ~14.7 miles of rough hiking trails, 4
hours 50 mins trip time, 4 hours 14 mins travel time (meaning I sat or
stood around in various places for 36 minutes, and wished I'd had
longer!), 3460 feet climbed/descended. I ran gentle ups and all downs
and flats for the most part but hiked all steeper uphills; heart rate
141 avg 72% of max, or 'easy' effort level.

I'd been so exhausted as a combination of training and work that I took
2 days off before my long run, and postponed it until tuesday because of
that and the weather. I decided to head back to the Catskills for
training since the race I signed up for, Bimbler's bluff 50k, is on
hilly singletrack. I've done stuff in most major areas of the Catskill
park, with the notable exception of all but one off-trail peaks,  I'd
never done Big Indian mountain, since there are basically no views
anywhere on that entire 15 mile trail. (I only did 1/2 of it today).
Still I thought it would be less vertical than the eastern catskills,
and that's what I wanted for this run, not that I don't need the
veritical training, but for what my body can handle at this point given
my small base.

Was a perfect day for running in the mountains: not a cloud in the sky
and temps in the mid 50s. I knew nothing about the Big Indian trail, but
was glad to see Doug's friend John H. had done a trail run there 2 days
before me as I signed in the register. The trail started out up and
extremely rocky, much moreso than any other catskill trails I've done,
hmm. But after 3/4 mile it turned north above the brook and became a
really nice very runable trail for a mile or so. Carrying 3 liters and a
20ozer and, though it was tempting, still warming up I didn't feel like
going fast plus I was planning to be out 4-5 hours.

After the trail crossed the brook it got more interesting, you could
tell this wasn't a popular trail as it was hardly worn at all and was
pretty hard to follow in places with some leaves on it already. I had to
stop several times to relocate the trail, and it's a good thing it was
well marked. I was already thinking that I didn't want to come back on
it at night, even though I had an excellent headlamp with me. As the
trail climbed more steeply up onto the Big Indian ridge it was really
overgrown in places and a bit claustrophobic, but that made it fun,
especially doing it alone.

Once you top the ridge you go along slightly up leading onto Big Indian
mountain for more than a mile, and you can see fleeting glimpses of
Double-top mountain over to your left. It looks like an easy bushwack on
the map but it's 1.5 miles as the crow flies, and is probably a good 4-5
hour side trip (or longer if you want to find all the good views noted
on the map to the west from there). I contemplated it but as I calcuated
how long it would take it was out of the question since I hadn't brought
much survival gear and with it dropping to freezing these nights it
would have been stupid to attempt it alone.

Got up on Big Indian and sensed I was near the top, then saw an unmarked
trail leading to the right and followed it up. It lead 5 mins up to the
Catskill 3500 club canister which has a register you can sign. The last
name on there was John H. which told me the other hikers after him
either didn't find the top (the trail is a little iffy unless you're
used to such things) or they found it but didn't sign it (improbable). I
ate something there then climbed a little tree to view Slide mountain
over to the east.

At only 1:29 in, I decided I had enough time to go for Eagle mountain
further up the trail, but as I started north, I could tell right away
not many used this section of the trail as it was extremely overgrown
and difficult to follow in places, especially as I was running, (and I'm
normally pretty good on trails). They did put enough trail markers to
keep you going, but I still had to stop many times to see where the
trail went. There were a fair number of blow-downs too which added to
the challenge, but in most places you could readily tell where the trail
went.

When I reached Eagle mountain I again spotted a side trail to the left
which matched the map showing the summit slightly to the left of the
trail. I got back there and there was a cairn but no canister, and then
the trail kind of looked like it kept going but there was a blow-down. I
went around the blowdown and followed the ridge a little while but
couldn't re-locate a distinct trail and the growth was getting thick. It
also didn't look like there was any higher ground ahead. As it was
getting near my 3pm turnaround time and since I didn't want to get out
my compass, and because I was pretty far from any trailhead or road, I
decided that if there was a canister it wasn't worth trying to find it.
(Found out later there's no canister ;) The main trail wasn't exactly
distinct, and if I got mixed up and tried to hit it from the side and
ended up on the wrong spot there's a chance I would have problems
finding it -- so I went back to the cairn, ate some stuff and then
started back.

Going back up the north side of Big Indian, I realized that if someone
stepped off that trail and got turned around - they might get lost for a
while because it was so indistinct and the undergrowth was thick and
over head level in lots of places; particularly in the sections north of
Big Indian, but sometimes even south of it.  I stopped overall probably
30 times to see where the trail went, and actually lost the trail
breifly (ran off it) about 10 times, which is pretty rare for me. This
made it interesting, and it underscored for me that when bushwacking to
views and stuff you've got to be very careful and have a plan to
relocate the trail when you come back in places like that.

The trip back was uneventful, but it was yet another humbling Catskill
experience. I'd expected less rocks, as even the slide mountain trail
just across the valley has less, and the other western Catskill trails
I've done have been better. The roughness of this Big Indian trail comes
partly because it's far less used than the eastern Catskill trails.
Except for about a mile or two of runable sections, it's rougher than
the escarpment trail, but of course with less vertical. It was a fun day
and left me feeling tired and somewhat cooked. Being out there today
made me wish I had a lot more time to explore, and to soak in the
pristine silence of the forest.

mon: 5.7 mi (420' climb)
tue: rest
wed: 8.1 mi (620' climb)
thu: 5.7 mi (420' climb)
fri: 12.7 mi trails (2000' climb)
sat: 9.0 mi (1000' climb)
sun: 10.0 mi (1100' climb)

total: 51.2 mi (5560' climb)

Runs:   4
Miles:  41.4
Long:   26.2
Time:   5:49

Race report: 3:29:59*, PR, BQ, 351/1189, 33/150 50-59, A-OK, :)

*Official time was 3:30:01 but I'm sticking with the *** under 3:30
time my watch recorded because I killed myself over the last 200 yards
to get it.

Goals: get half-drunk and take a 15-hour nap.

| Race report: 3:29:59*, PR, BQ, 351/1189, 33/150 50-59, A-OK, :)
WOW! BIG CONGRATS, YOU HAVE DONE IT!

| *Official time was 3:30:01 but I'm sticking with the *** under 3:30
| time my watch recorded because I killed myself over the last 200 yards
| to get it.
| Goals: get half-drunk and take a 15-hour nap.

You deserve it, enjoy. When you get a chance don't forget to give us
some details and real race report.

About 55 miles this week ...

Finally starting to think the cold that I picked up several weeks ago
is "almost" completely gone.  No specific goals but thinking about
sneaking in a 5k or 10k in next couple of weeks.

XC season winding up will make that difficult though.  My oldest
daughters high school team took 2nd place in districts headed to
regionals and almost certainly to state finals ( of course she isn't
one of the fast ones in the varsity ).  Almost certainly we will be
going to see the state final.

Good luck all.

tf:

Woo hoo!  WTG, TF!

Enjoy the nap, the half-drunk, the eating, and whatever else you have
energy left over for.

Thanks, Frank.
I have some weight to lose. Funny thing, after a walk/jog I am
*starving*. I need to get past that.

I am new to the group. What is the consensus of treadmill vs. track?

--

Stan in NJ

Monday. 5K
Tuesday. 5K
Thursday. 5K
Sunday. 26.2 miles. 6:25:39 per the Garmin. Official results no avaible
yet.
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Sent from my iPhone

Congratulations!