MS Streets and Trips 2001

MS Streets and Trips 2001

Post by Sean Cheste » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 06:17:48


        Sorry for flooding you with so many questions lately, but I'm an
inquisitive guy.  
        When I go to grab my shoes tomorrow (thanks to those who gave me
suggestions of what to try on) I had also planned to stop at Costco or
a  computer shop and pick up Microsoft Streets and Trips 2001.  Before I
go ahead with it though, I wanted to know if any of you have used the
program, and if so what your general impression of it was, how
accurately it measured routes that you've previously ran, and what the
chances of it having small streets in a very small Canadian town on the
west coast are.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Sean Chester
Vancouver Island, Canada

 
 
 

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Post by runl.. » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 07:05:17

Hi Sean,
I have been using Streets and Trips for a while now. I have found it to be
within 100 yards or so accurate on most of my runs. (I have checked the
mileages with automobile and bicycle computer over many of my courses) Once
I was satisfied it was accurate, I have been using it to check mileage on
all of my routes. I live in Minnesota outside of Minneapolis, so I can't
tell you how accurately updated it is for Canada. I have noticed that some
of the newer developments in my town are not always on there. It has some
very nice features. You can map point to point routes. Or you can draw your
route and measure that way. Miles or Kilometers You can zoom in down to 1k
Hope this helps.

MaryKay

Quote:

>         Sorry for flooding you with so many questions lately, but I'm an
> inquisitive guy.
>         When I go to grab my shoes tomorrow (thanks to those who gave me
> suggestions of what to try on) I had also planned to stop at Costco or
> a  computer shop and pick up Microsoft Streets and Trips 2001.  Before I
> go ahead with it though, I wanted to know if any of you have used the
> program, and if so what your general impression of it was, how
> accurately it measured routes that you've previously ran, and what the
> chances of it having small streets in a very small Canadian town on the
> west coast are.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

> Sean Chester
> Vancouver Island, Canada


 
 
 

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Post by Joseph Meeha » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 07:27:29

Begin Quote
 .  Before I go ahead with it though, I wanted to know if any of you
have used the program, and if so what your general impression of it was,
how accurately it measured routes that you've previously ran, and what
the chances of it having small streets in a very small Canadian town on
the west coast are.
End Quote

    I have found that, at least in the US, it has been very good.  Give
me an address (yours or anyone's) and I will see what I can find and
e-mail you an image of what I see.

--
Dia 's Muire duit

Joe M

 
 
 

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Post by Sean Cheste » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:09:55

Look up 7901 Athabasca Place, Crofton, British Columbia, Canada.  If you
find that there, I have no doubt that it will serve all my purposes.
Thanks!

Sean Chester
Vancouver Island, Canada

Quote:

> Begin Quote
>  .  Before I go ahead with it though, I wanted to know if any of you
> have used the program, and if so what your general impression of it was,
> how accurately it measured routes that you've previously ran, and what
> the chances of it having small streets in a very small Canadian town on
> the west coast are.
> End Quote

>     I have found that, at least in the US, it has been very good.  Give
> me an address (yours or anyone's) and I will see what I can find and
> e-mail you an image of what I see.

> --
> Dia 's Muire duit

> Joe M

 
 
 

MS Streets and Trips 2001

Post by runl.. » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:27:42

All I could find for Crofton is one little dot, no streets. Is that on
Vancuver Island? Near North Cowichan?
Quote:

> Look up 7901 Athabasca Place, Crofton, British Columbia, Canada.  If you
> find that there, I have no doubt that it will serve all my purposes.
> Thanks!

> Sean Chester
> Vancouver Island, Canada


> > Begin Quote
> >  .  Before I go ahead with it though, I wanted to know if any of you
> > have used the program, and if so what your general impression of it was,
> > how accurately it measured routes that you've previously ran, and what
> > the chances of it having small streets in a very small Canadian town on
> > the west coast are.
> > End Quote

> >     I have found that, at least in the US, it has been very good.  Give
> > me an address (yours or anyone's) and I will see what I can find and
> > e-mail you an image of what I see.

> > --
> > Dia 's Muire duit

> > Joe M

 
 
 

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Post by John Gree » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:24:30


Quote:
> Sorry for flooding you with so many questions lately, but I'm an
> inquisitive guy.
> When I go to grab my shoes tomorrow (thanks to those who gave me
> suggestions of what to try on) I had also planned to stop at Costco or
> a  computer shop and pick up Microsoft Streets and Trips 2001.  Before I
> go ahead with it though, I wanted to know if any of you have used the
> program, and if so what your general impression of it was, how
> accurately it measured routes that you've previously ran, and what the
> chances of it having small streets in a very small Canadian town on the
> west coast are.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

I use it to map out different routes here in London, ON and have been very
happy with it. My one complaint is that it doesn't show trails/bike paths
and since it's automobile-centric, you can't plot routes that aren't on
roads. You can, however, use the free form distance measuring tool off-road
to get an estimate.

I took a quick look at Vancouver Island and (and this is by no means
complete) the following cities/towns have street level maps:

Brentwood Bay (major roads only, I suspect)
Campbell River
Central Saanich
Cliffside (major roads only, no names)
Cobble Hill (major roads only, no names)
Colwood (major roads only, I suspect)
Comox
Cordova Bay
Courtenay
Cowichan Ban (major roads only, no names)
Cumberland
Duncan
Esquimalt
Gabriola Island (major roads only, I suspect)
Goldstream
Hilliers (street layout but no names)
Ladysmith (street layout but no names)
Lake Cowichan (street layout but no names)
Langford
Little River (sort of)
Metchosin
Mill Bay (major roads only, no names)
Nanaimo
North Cowichan (major roads only, I suspect)
North Saanich
Oak Bay
Parksville
Port Alberni
Port Hardy (street layout only, no names)
Port McNeill (street layout only, no names)
Qualicum Beach
Rocky Point (major roads only, no names)
Royal Oak
Saanich
Shawnigan Lake (major roads only, no names)
Sidney
Sooke
Swartz Bay
Victoria
View Royal

If you don't see your hometown, send me an email and I'd be happy to look
for it. Hope this was useful.

John
London, ON

 
 
 

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Post by runl.. » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:29:41

128 meters from Chaplin Street?
Quote:

> Look up 7901 Athabasca Place, Crofton, British Columbia, Canada.  If you
> find that there, I have no doubt that it will serve all my purposes.
> Thanks!

> Sean Chester
> Vancouver Island, Canada


> > Begin Quote
> >  .  Before I go ahead with it though, I wanted to know if any of you
> > have used the program, and if so what your general impression of it was,
> > how accurately it measured routes that you've previously ran, and what
> > the chances of it having small streets in a very small Canadian town on
> > the west coast are.
> > End Quote

> >     I have found that, at least in the US, it has been very good.  Give
> > me an address (yours or anyone's) and I will see what I can find and
> > e-mail you an image of what I see.

> > --
> > Dia 's Muire duit

> > Joe M

 
 
 

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Post by Sean Cheste » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 10:12:03

Yes it is on Vancouver Island, and it's right beside the District of
North Cowichan.  None of the roads in that small town were measured
though?
Quote:

> 128 meters from Chaplin Street?


> > Look up 7901 Athabasca Place, Crofton, British Columbia, Canada.  If you
> > find that there, I have no doubt that it will serve all my purposes.
> > Thanks!

> > Sean Chester
> > Vancouver Island, Canada


> > > Begin Quote
> > >  .  Before I go ahead with it though, I wanted to know if any of you
> > > have used the program, and if so what your general impression of it was,
> > > how accurately it measured routes that you've previously ran, and what
> > > the chances of it having small streets in a very small Canadian town on
> > > the west coast are.
> > > End Quote

> > >     I have found that, at least in the US, it has been very good.  Give
> > > me an address (yours or anyone's) and I will see what I can find and
> > > e-mail you an image of what I see.

> > > --
> > > Dia 's Muire duit

> > > Joe M

 
 
 

MS Streets and Trips 2001

Post by SwStudi » Sun, 29 Apr 2001 10:34:51

From a frequent (daily) user:

I plot every run I do with this program. I have measured countless
races I have done (certified and not) up to and including the Canadian
International Marathon. As far as accuracy goes, it is very, very good;
but you MUST plot the course at the highest zoom setting in order
for this accuracy to really show. This means it's even better if you choose
kilometres instead of miles, as the final zoom is closer. I've plotted
enough certified 5k - 10k courses I have done to comfortably say
when_used_properly, this software is accurate to within 50 metres
per 5k  at worst.

IMO it is a fantastic program, although I live in a major city - this
means everything is there. That's the flaw - rural areas and very
small towns may or may not be accurate. Fortunately for me, this
is never a problem. Even the rural areas and countless small towns
north of Toronto all seem correct to me.

I totally believe the reports of missing roads, etc, from others but again,
I guess I am just in a 'good' area for this software.

--

David (in Hamilton, Ont)
"Why should I practice running slow? I already
know how to run slow. I must learn to run fast."
                                                   Emil Zatopek
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/swstudio/racing.html

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Quote:
> Sorry for flooding you with so many questions lately, but I'm an
> inquisitive guy.
> When I go to grab my shoes tomorrow (thanks to those who gave me
> suggestions of what to try on) I had also planned to stop at Costco or
> a  computer shop and pick up Microsoft Streets and Trips 2001.  Before I
> go ahead with it though, I wanted to know if any of you have used the
> program, and if so what your general impression of it was, how
> accurately it measured routes that you've previously ran, and what the
> chances of it having small streets in a very small Canadian town on the
> west coast are.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

> Sean Chester
> Vancouver Island, Canada