Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by George Gratta » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:38:23


Hi folks--

I've noticed something curious as my weekend runs have been getting longer
and longer in preparation for Boston on 4/21-- the following day (which is
usually but not always a full recovery day for me) I'll notice a few times
when my heartbeat seems to...slow (for lack of a better word)...even perhaps
skip a little, and then race a tiny bit to catch up. It's not painful, I
don't experience any dizziness, nausea, sweats, other discomfort of any
kind, etc. and it's not something I'm *particularly* worried about-- but it
occurs to me that I should do a little research and maybe set up a doctor's
appointment. Any thoughts/experiences with this? I only notice it the days
after my longer runs (anything over, say, 12 miles)-- and not during the
runs or right after them. I tend to feel it when sitting down or otherwise
being sedentary--not during other exercise or even movement. I've got
slightly "High-Normal" bp, with a resting pulse rate that's now generally
down in the low 50s.

Could this just be a delayed effect of all that cardio work the longer runs
provide? A lingering electrolyte or sodium issue?

--
Shalom, Peace, Salaam

George Grattan

 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Roger Hunte » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:42:47


Quote:
> Could this just be a delayed effect of all that cardio work the longer
runs
> provide? A lingering electrolyte or sodium issue?

Don't ask these idiots.   See a cardiologist.   Soon.

Roger.

 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Mike Conw » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:51:01

Quote:
>Don't ask these idiots.   See a cardiologist.   Soon.

Affairs of the heart should not be taken lightly.  Very likely a benign
reaction to your workouts (Sam could probably supply some of the links to
research on athletic hearts and sometimes erratic electrical activity therein)
but one should not take chances, unless you've been diagnosed with some
particular--again, hopefully benign--condition already that could cause these
episodes.

As Roger says, get thee to a cardiologist post-haste.

Mike C

 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by arche » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:57:01


Quote:
> Hi folks--

> I've noticed something curious as my weekend runs have been getting longer
> and longer in preparation for Boston on 4/21-- the following day (which is
> usually but not always a full recovery day for me) I'll notice a few times
> when my heartbeat seems to...slow (for lack of a better word)...even perhaps
> skip a little, and then race a tiny bit to catch up. It's not painful, I
> don't experience any dizziness, nausea, sweats, other discomfort of any
> kind, etc. and it's not something I'm *particularly* worried about-- but it
> occurs to me that I should do a little research and maybe set up a doctor's
> appointment. Any thoughts/experiences with this? I only notice it the days
> after my longer runs (anything over, say, 12 miles)-- and not during the
> runs or right after them. I tend to feel it when sitting down or otherwise
> being sedentary--not during other exercise or even movement. I've got
> slightly "High-Normal" bp, with a resting pulse rate that's now generally
> down in the low 50s.

> Could this just be a delayed effect of all that cardio work the longer runs
> provide? A lingering electrolyte or sodium issue?

I have no idea as to the root cause, but I used to have this, especially
within the first year after I started exercising after several years of
little exercise.  However, over the last couple of years since I've
gotten in better shape, this hardly happens any more.  If this is new for
you, and you've been running for several years, I'd definitely recommend
getting it checked out.

--
David Kerber
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Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by jo.. » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:36:15

....
Quote:
> I'll notice a few times
> when my heartbeat seems to...slow (for lack of a better word)...even perhaps
> skip a little, and then race a tiny bit to catch up. It's not painful, I

....

just curious, how do you determine that you are skipping
beats or that your heart is slowing? do you use an HRM? or? ....

jobs

 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Chris Smit » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:27:07

Hey, George, I'm not a doctor but recall reading more than one place about
changes in resting heart rate as a possible symptom of overtraining syndrome.
Considering that you may be pushing the envelope in your preparation for Boston,
you may want to do some solid reading about overtraining syndrome and how you
might respond to it. And of course consider real medical advice.

Cheers.
Chris

Quote:

> Hi folks--

> I've noticed something curious as my weekend runs have been getting longer
> and longer in preparation for Boston on 4/21-- the following day (which is
> usually but not always a full recovery day for me) I'll notice a few times
> when my heartbeat seems to...slow (for lack of a better word)...even perhaps
> skip a little, and then race a tiny bit to catch up. It's not painful, I
> don't experience any dizziness, nausea, sweats, other discomfort of any
> kind, etc. and it's not something I'm *particularly* worried about-- but it
> occurs to me that I should do a little research and maybe set up a doctor's
> appointment. Any thoughts/experiences with this? I only notice it the days
> after my longer runs (anything over, say, 12 miles)-- and not during the
> runs or right after them. I tend to feel it when sitting down or otherwise
> being sedentary--not during other exercise or even movement. I've got
> slightly "High-Normal" bp, with a resting pulse rate that's now generally
> down in the low 50s.

> Could this just be a delayed effect of all that cardio work the longer runs
> provide? A lingering electrolyte or sodium issue?

> --
> Shalom, Peace, Salaam

> George Grattan

 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Young Goodm » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:59:52

Quote:
>Subject: Re: Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

>Date: 3/11/2003 5:27 PM Eastern Standard Time

>Hey, George, I'm not a doctor but recall reading more than one place about
>changes in resting heart rate as a possible symptom of overtraining syndrome.
>Considering that you may be pushing the envelope in your preparation for
>Boston,
>you may want to do some solid reading about overtraining syndrome and how you
>might respond to it. And of course consider real medical advice.

>Cheers.
>Chris

Chris, I have adelphia. Does adelphia have a newsreader? If so, can you give me
the link? Thank you.
 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Jeff Kalembe » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:15:14

Sounds exactly like what I have ... atrial fibrillation.
Ventricular is kinda similar but pretty bad.
Like Roger said... see a cardiologist.

Unfortunately they cannot diagnose it unless they actually catch you in the
condition and do an EKG.
So if it happens and lasts a while get to the doc ASAP and ask for an EKG.

Its pretty normal for it to happen occasionally, its bad when it lasts a
long time though.

Cardizem controls mine pretty well.

JK


Quote:


> > Could this just be a delayed effect of all that cardio work the longer
> runs
> > provide? A lingering electrolyte or sodium issue?

> Don't ask these idiots.   See a cardiologist.   Soon.

> Roger.

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Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Bill-always hard-Rodger » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:07:56

Quote:
>I've noticed something curious as my weekend runs have been getting longer
>and longer in preparation for Boston on 4/21-- the following day (which is
>usually but not always a full recovery day for me) I'll notice a few times
>when my heartbeat seems to...slow (for lack of a better word)...even perhaps
>skip a little, and then race a tiny bit to catch up. It's not painful, I
>don't experience any dizziness, nausea, sweats, other discomfort of any
>kind, etc. and it's not something I'm *particularly* worried about-- but it
>occurs to me that I should do a little research and maybe set up a doctor's
>appointment. Any thoughts/experiences with this? I only notice it the days
>after my longer runs (anything over, say, 12 miles)-- and not during the
>runs or right after them. I tend to feel it when sitting down or otherwise
>being sedentary--not during other exercise or even movement. I've got
>slightly "High-Normal" bp, with a resting pulse rate that's now generally
>down in the low 50s.

>Could this just be a delayed effect of all that cardio work the longer runs
>provide? A lingering electrolyte or sodium issue?

>--
>Shalom, Peace, Salaam

>George Grattan

For better or worse, I get the exact same thing from long periods (months) of
NOT exercising, but to a much lesser degree when I'm running daily.

Bill R.


 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Bill-always hard-Rodger » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:09:27

Quote:
>Don't ask these idiots.   See a cardiologist.   Soon.

The problem is they look at you, say "you run HOW many miles?" then chuckle and
pronounce you healthy as a horse, and from that point on they listen to nothing
you say.

Bill R.


 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Roger Hunte » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:00:44


Quote:
> Chris, I have adelphia.

Don't worry.   I'm a doctor.   I can cure you.   Rub the affected area with
best butter, three times per day.   Your adelphia will be gone within the
week.

Roger.

 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Bill-always hard-Rodger » Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:34:30

Quote:
>Don't worry.   I'm a doctor.   I can cure you.   Rub the affected area with
>best butter, three times per day.   Your adelphia will be gone within the
>week.

You forgot to tell him about dancing *** at midnite, in the town square while
chanting "hardon, hardon" at the top of his lungs.

Bill R.


 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by George Gratta » Fri, 14 Mar 2003 01:22:38


Quote:


> ....
>> I'll notice a few times
>> when my heartbeat seems to...slow (for lack of a better word)...even perhaps
>> skip a little, and then race a tiny bit to catch up. It's not painful, I
> ....

> just curious, how do you determine that you are skipping
> beats or that your heart is slowing? do you use an HRM? or? ....

Nothing that precise-- it's just how it feels to me, like a flutter of
sorts. It's pretty easy to become conscious of the general rate of your
heartbeat-- and to actually feel it-- or at least it always has been for me,
without using a HRM.

--
Shalom, Peace, Salaam

George Grattan

 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by George Gratta » Fri, 14 Mar 2003 01:29:06


Quote:
> Sounds exactly like what I have ... atrial fibrillation.
> Ventricular is kinda similar but pretty bad.
> Like Roger said... see a cardiologist.

I will make the appointment today-- and thanks for the responses. Of course,
given my HMO, the first appointment I will get will be some weeks after the
marathon, no doubt, and by the time I actually get the referral for the
cardiologist, it'll be summer. Even then, I'll get 30-45 seconds office time
with both my GP and the cardio. :-)

Quote:

> Unfortunately they cannot diagnose it unless they actually catch you in the
> condition and do an EKG.

Hmmm. That's going to make things difficult, isn't it...

Quote:
> So if it happens and lasts a while get to the doc ASAP and ask for an EKG.

No-- it's a very fleeting sensation. Only a few moments in duration, only a
few times, and on days just after long runs. I suppose I could camp out in
the ER on the next one of those days hooked up to an EKG, but that
seems...unwieldy. :-)

--
Shalom, Peace, Salaam

George Grattan

 
 
 

Heartbeat "Weirdness" Day After Long Runs?

Post by Roger Hunte » Fri, 14 Mar 2003 02:21:58


Quote:
> > Unfortunately they cannot diagnose it unless they actually catch you in
the
> > condition and do an EKG.

> Hmmm. That's going to make things difficult, isn't it...

George, they'll probably have you wear a piece of kit that records your HR
for 24 hours for your cardio guy to download and analyse.    It's fun :-)

Roger.