Medium! Medium! Medium! MEDIUM!

Medium! Medium! Medium! MEDIUM!

Post by jeff » Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Oh, just tell them you want your drink in the cup they give you water in...

I don't drink pop (or soda if you east coasters prefer) and always get
pissed off when someone hands me a thimble-sized glass of water.  Usually
I'll slide it back towards them and tell them to supersize it.

-jeff

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Quote:
> While on this, I was in a fast food place the other day and once again
> noticed the beverage sizes:

> Medium, Large, SuperSize, and Your Bladder Can't Hold This Much

> How can you have a medium and no small?  In this case a medium is really a
> small.....

> Oh well.....



> > I guess my problem is with the way the sizes are named.  It seems that
the
> > size that fits the majority of the people (currently called large)
should
> be
> > called medium?  What is currently small should probably be called
X-small
> > since it is apparently so rare.  As NJP suggested, it is probably a
> holdover
> > from the days when the average person really was a medium.

> > Dave





> > > >Medium is medium because most people are that size, and if most
people
> > > >are that size doesn't it make sense that the race organizers would
want
> > > >to get the shirt size right for most of the people?

> > > Maybe most people are mediums, but they want either a Large or
> > > Extra-Large. I have helped put on races before (used to work at a
> > > running store), and pre-registration always had about a 1-2-6-3-1
ratio
> > > (or thereabouts for S-M-L-XL-XXL).

> > > We always guarenteed that anyone who pre-registered as a Medium would
> > > get one, but we could not do so on race day registrations (yet another
> > > reason to pre-register)

> > > Race organizers always get more L and XL because most people want
those
> > > sizes.
> > > --
> > > Hank Zimmerman maintains the comp.mail.eudora.mac FAQ
> > > It can be found at <http://www.ka.net/eudora/faqs/>
> > > The [Unofficial] Eudora Web Site can be found at
> > <http://www.emailman.com/eudora/>
> > > (c) 2000 Hank Zimmerman

 
 
 

Medium! Medium! Medium! MEDIUM!

Post by jeff » Tue, 22 Aug 2000 04:00:00


Quote:


> > Do you seriously believe that most people are size medium?  A quick look
> > around any sample of people (including those at a road race) will show
> > otherwise.  The most popular choices at road races are large and
> > extra-large.  They get more extra-large because while it's possible
> > (although not always desirable) to go up a size it's really hard to go
down
> > a size.

> So then why is it that when I request my medium shirt the volunteer (they
are
> the greatest) says "Sorry we ran out of medium, all we have left is extra
> large". If they got the size right there would be no reason to need to go
up in
> size.

They are going with the safest route in order maximize their chance of
making the most money.  They run out of mediums because they order less of
them, because like I said a medium person can go up to a large (which they
order a lot of) but a large person can't comfortably go down to a medium.
This way they don't have a bunch of medium shirts laying around with large
people wanting shirts.

My guess is that you (probably reluctantly) took the large shirt when medium
ones weren't available.  At least you got something you could wear - as a
nightshirt, dress shirt, scuba outfit, whatever...

Quote:

> > Personally I think all races should give you the option of not
purchasing a
> > t-shirt at all, but because this is currently a rare option I suggest
> > preregistering as you will be gauranteed your choice of sizes.

> As someone pointed out months ago if you take away the t-shirts the price
of
> races will go up. It is where the advertisers, and the ones who donate the
> money for a race, get their product name spread.

Doubtful.  Rarely do the companies sponsoring the race cover the entire cost
for t-shirts - especially at small, local races.  The price of just the race
itself might go up but subtract the extra cost given to the t-shirt and
you'll still come out ahead in most cases.

Quote:
> I've always had this problem if I post or pre register.

Well, you're going to poorly run events then.  If you pre-register (and by
pre-register I mean at least 2 weeks or so) you should get your choice of
size.

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> > -jeff

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> > > Permit me this rant.

> > > Why is it that when I register at a race, after carefully selecting
the
> > > medium option for the t-shirt on the application, there are piles of
> > > extra-large and no medium? Forgive me if you like your shirts to come
> > > down to your knees and the short sleeves past your elbows. I HATE IT!
On
> > > the extra large shirts the race logo is half tucked into my pants.
Large
> > > would be acceptable but why Extra Large?

> > > Do race organizers look at the piles of extra large t-shirts left over
> > > and decide, hey we need more extra large next year?

> > > Medium is medium because most people are that size, and if most people
> > > are that size doesn't it make sense that the race organizers would
want
> > > to get the shirt size right for most of the people?

> > > Is this rocket science? If I request a medium shirt on the application
> > > then I had better not be offered an extra large. My running club
> > > organizes a race every year and every participant gets the shirt size
> > > they request. I know because I've volunteered at the t-shirt parties
> > > where we put the shirt with the number.

> > > Yes, I am one of those runners who has too many t-shirts and many have
> > > seen use as dust rags or oil soakers. However on the twice a year
> > > occasions that I like the shirt and want to actually wear it I find
that
> > > the shirt is too large.

> > > C'mon race directors fess up. You don't care what the shirt size is
> > > along as you get the race over with and started with the post race
> > > party.

> > > Peace,
> > > Andy


 
 
 

Medium! Medium! Medium! MEDIUM!

Post by fun runne » Wed, 23 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I am an Asian female, 5' 3" & 108 lbs.  I usually wear a Medium t-shirt.
But I now know that when I join a run in the US, as I have a couple of
times, I need a Small (which still ends up loose fitting).
AND I realise that food portions in the US are L, XL and XXL for I always
end up with surprisingly large portions.

oh well, I guess t-shirts and food portions for me might have to be "junior"
if that exists.
Does it?  I will try to incorporate another run in next year's vacation and
this info will help.
Thanks.

Quote:

>While on this, I was in a fast food place the other day and once again
>noticed the beverage sizes:

>Medium, Large, SuperSize, and Your Bladder Can't Hold This Much

>How can you have a medium and no small?  In this case a medium is really a
>small.....

>Oh well.....



>> I guess my problem is with the way the sizes are named.  It seems that
the
>> size that fits the majority of the people (currently called large) should
>be
>> called medium?  What is currently small should probably be called X-small
>> since it is apparently so rare.  As NJP suggested, it is probably a
>holdover
>> from the days when the average person really was a medium.

>> Dave





>> > >Medium is medium because most people are that size, and if most people
>> > >are that size doesn't it make sense that the race organizers would
want
>> > >to get the shirt size right for most of the people?

>> > Maybe most people are mediums, but they want either a Large or
>> > Extra-Large. I have helped put on races before (used to work at a
>> > running store), and pre-registration always had about a 1-2-6-3-1 ratio
>> > (or thereabouts for S-M-L-XL-XXL).

>> > We always guarenteed that anyone who pre-registered as a Medium would
>> > get one, but we could not do so on race day registrations (yet another
>> > reason to pre-register)

>> > Race organizers always get more L and XL because most people want those
>> > sizes.
>> > --
>> > Hank Zimmerman maintains the comp.mail.eudora.mac FAQ
>> > It can be found at <http://www.ka.net/eudora/faqs/>
>> > The [Unofficial] Eudora Web Site can be found at
>> <http://www.emailman.com/eudora/>
>> > (c) 2000 Hank Zimmerman


 
 
 

Medium! Medium! Medium! MEDIUM!

Post by Bob Scherze » Thu, 24 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I agree with Andrew on this one.  I almost always preregister and always
select M for shirt size and in at least 50% of the cases, when I go to
packet pick-up, I'm offered my choice between L and XL.  Why do they put M
on the registration if they aren't going to have it for those who select it?
Bob in Kalamazoo  (I've got more t-shirts than I need, but if you're going
to force me to pay for one at least give me what you promised)
Quote:

>Do you seriously believe that most people are size medium?  A quick look
>around any sample of people (including those at a road race) will show
>otherwise.  The most popular choices at road races are large and
>extra-large.  They get more extra-large because while it's possible
>(although not always desirable) to go up a size it's really hard to go down
>a size.

>Personally I think all races should give you the option of not purchasing a
>t-shirt at all, but because this is currently a rare option I suggest
>preregistering as you will be gauranteed your choice of sizes.

>-jeff

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>> Permit me this rant.

>> Why is it that when I register at a race, after carefully selecting the
>> medium option for the t-shirt on the application, there are piles of
>> extra-large and no medium? Forgive me if you like your shirts to come
>> down to your knees and the short sleeves past your elbows. I HATE IT! On
>> the extra large shirts the race logo is half tucked into my pants. Large
>> would be acceptable but why Extra Large?

>> Do race organizers look at the piles of extra large t-shirts left over
>> and decide, hey we need more extra large next year?

>> Medium is medium because most people are that size, and if most people
>> are that size doesn't it make sense that the race organizers would want
>> to get the shirt size right for most of the people?

>> Is this rocket science? If I request a medium shirt on the application
>> then I had better not be offered an extra large. My running club
>> organizes a race every year and every participant gets the shirt size
>> they request. I know because I've volunteered at the t-shirt parties
>> where we put the shirt with the number.

>> Yes, I am one of those runners who has too many t-shirts and many have
>> seen use as dust rags or oil soakers. However on the twice a year
>> occasions that I like the shirt and want to actually wear it I find that
>> the shirt is too large.

>> C'mon race directors fess up. You don't care what the shirt size is
>> along as you get the race over with and started with the post race
>> party.

>> Peace,
>> Andy