13 year old clocks under 4:00 for a mile on multiple occasions...

13 year old clocks under 4:00 for a mile on multiple occasions...

Post by Bret Jense » Sat, 03 May 1997 04:00:00


Quote:
> > No, I really mean a  mile in under 4 minutes.  I clocked him myself as
> > well as other people.
> > By the way, how do I contact Phil Knight?

        Instead of contacting Phil Knight, it's vitally important to get
this kid an agent.  Remember Henry Rono?  We don't want that to happen to
this phenom <g>.
        Tell you what:  If Stephen's parents will send him to where I
live (West coast) and he can run a 4:00 mile or even a 4:01 (jeg lag and
all) at a certifiable age 13, I'll reimburse all his travel expenses and
introduce him to division one coaches in the area, then buy him a plane
ticket home and three new pair of shoes of his choosing as compensation
for his time.

                                                                - Bret Jensen

 
 
 

13 year old clocks under 4:00 for a mile on multiple occasions...

Post by pkfre.. » Sat, 03 May 1997 04:00:00

: > > No, I really mean a  mile in under 4 minutes.  I clocked him myself as
: > > well as other people.

:       Tell you what:  If Stephen's parents will send him to where I
: live (West coast) and he can run a 4:00 mile or even a 4:01 (jeg lag and
: all) at a certifiable age 13, I'll reimburse all his travel expenses and
: introduce him to division one coaches in the area, then buy him a plane
: ticket home and three new pair of shoes of his choosing as compensation
: for his time.

Which reminds of a story...

I once did a 5k that was a two lap course.  When awards time came, the
under 19 winner was about 7 years old.  At this event, all the age group
winners were put into a drawing for a trip to Hawaii.  Naturally, there
was a storm of protest over this little girl winning her age group.  It
was obvious she had accidently wandered into the finish chute after just
one lap.  The poor little girl's mother insisted that she had in fact
run the full distance and demanded she be declared the age group winner.

The race director asked the girl to run a lap of the course with him so
he could see for himself how she ran.  The mother refused, saying it was
unfair since she was tired from the 5k.  He then offered to meet her
there the next weekend and run the course with her, and if she ran
within a minute of her purported finishing time, he would declare her
the winner.  The mother refused again.

I think they gave her a winner's medal just to shut the mother up, moved
all the others in her age group up a spot, and everyone held their
breath when they pulled the Hawaii trip winner from the hat.  Luckily,
the little girl didn't win the drawing.

The examples some parents set for their kids.  :-(

-pfrench

 
 
 

13 year old clocks under 4:00 for a mile on multiple occasions...

Post by Al Hromja » Sat, 03 May 1997 04:00:00

Quote:


> : > > No, I really mean a  mile in under 4 minutes.  I clocked him myself as
> : > > well as other people.

> :       Tell you what:  If Stephen's parents will send him to where I
> : live (West coast) and he can run a 4:00 mile or even a 4:01 (jeg lag and
> : all) at a certifiable age 13, I'll reimburse all his travel expenses and
> : introduce him to division one coaches in the area, then buy him a plane
> : ticket home and three new pair of shoes of his choosing as compensation
> : for his time.

> Which reminds of a story...

> I once did a 5k that was a two lap course.  When awards time came, the
> under 19 winner was about 7 years old.  At this event, all the age group
> winners were put into a drawing for a trip to Hawaii.  Naturally, there
> was a storm of protest over this little girl winning her age group.  It
> was obvious she had accidently wandered into the finish chute after just
> one lap.  The poor little girl's mother insisted that she had in fact
> run the full distance and demanded she be declared the age group winner.

> The race director asked the girl to run a lap of the course with him so
> he could see for himself how she ran.  The mother refused, saying it was
> unfair since she was tired from the 5k.  He then offered to meet her
> there the next weekend and run the course with her, and if she ran
> within a minute of her purported finishing time, he would declare her
> the winner.  The mother refused again.

> I think they gave her a winner's medal just to shut the mother up, moved
> all the others in her age group up a spot, and everyone held their
> breath when they pulled the Hawaii trip winner from the hat.  Luckily,
> the little girl didn't win the drawing.

> The examples some parents set for their kids.  :-(

> -pfrench

In southern California back in the late 70s, early 80s there was a girl
that won her division just about every week.  Girls in her division said
she cheated.

One day I went to a local race at a Jr. college to get times for my
club's newsletter and to watch the race. The race was out and back on
the campus.  Near the time the fast runners were due,  I went to use a
portable toilet about 100 yards from the finish.  While inside I heard a
noise in the dense bushes, behind the toilet.  

After exiting the toilet, I watched the area behind it.  Soon after the
top open runners crossed the line, I saw our champion girl runner come
out of the bushes behind the toilet.  Next day, in work, I mentioned it
to a colleague who ran the race.  He said that he was running with the
girl at the start of the race and she ran of the course and into the
bushes behind the toilet.

Later investigation revealed that just about all the races she won in
her age group were out-and-back courses.

Her father had played college basketball for one of the colleges cited
in the NYC area basketball fixes of earlier years, I had been told.

I once saw an unlikely division winner emerge from a toilet a few miles
from the finish of the LA Marathon.  Helpful devices, those toilets, if
one learns how to use them.  One can really improve one's time.

----Al Hromjak

 
 
 

13 year old clocks under 4:00 for a mile on multiple occasions...

Post by Dahi » Sun, 11 May 1997 04:00:00

This concerns me Bret. Wouldn't you be compromising his amateur status?
Better not give him the shoes.
DAH

 
 
 

13 year old clocks under 4:00 for a mile on multiple occasions...

Post by Bret Jense » Sun, 11 May 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
> [DAH]
> This concerns me Bret. Wouldn't you be compromising his amateur status?

        Well, he wouldn't be running for me and I wouldn't be
compensating him for athletic performance, just travel expenses.

Quote:
> Better not give him the shoes.

        Yeah, maybe not.  Oh well, guess it's not worth his while to fly
over here, then.

                                                                - Bret Jensen

 
 
 

13 year old clocks under 4:00 for a mile on multiple occasions...

Post by Bret Jense » Sun, 11 May 1997 04:00:00

Quote:
> [DAH]
> This concerns me Bret. Wouldn't you be compromising his amateur status?

        Well, he wouldn't be running for me and I wouldn't be
compensating him for athletic performance, just travel expenses.

Quote:
> Better not give him the shoes.

        Yeah, maybe not.  Oh well, guess it's not worth his while to fly
over here, then.

                                                                - Bret Jensen