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by **K. Obero** » Sat, 14 Jun 2003 14:37:31

I've just started running again after a long hiatus - about 10 years.
I'm 6'3" and a year of Weight Watchers and steady walking has dropped
my weight from 292 (!) to 238.

I've started running again; i'm up to 3.5 miles x 4 times a week at a
leisurely 9-10 minute pace. So far, everything feels pretty good - I
don't have any joint pain, my shoes are wearing evenly, and I'm not
pronating or supinating heavily. And I'm really enjoying getting out
on the road again.

I've done about 150 miles in a pair of ASICS Gel-Cumulus IIs I bought
earlier this year, and am starting to suspect the poor midsoles have
spring their last after all of this weight squishing them into
submission.

I'm a pretty good runner, don't need a lot of motion control, but
stability and cushioning are important. Does anyone have a
recommendation for a shoe for a biomechanically OK, but heavyweight
runner?

All of the New Balance shoes I've tried were too narrow in the
forefoot. ASICS GT-2070s feel pretty good, as did a pair of Nike Air
Max Motos and Air Pegasus. I just tried them on in the store, didn't
do any serious running in them.

Thanks!

by **Bill-sometimes-hard-Rodger** » Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:15:26

Quote:

>I've done about 150 miles in a pair of ASICS Gel-Cumulus IIs I bought
>earlier this year, and am starting to suspect the poor midsoles have
>spring their last after all of this weight squishing them into
>submission.

You should get many more good miles from them.

Quote:

>I'm a pretty good runner, don't need a lot of motion control, but
>stability and cushioning are important. Does anyone have a
>recommendation for a shoe for a biomechanically OK, but heavyweight
>runner?

Stick to Asics,or any brand but Nikes, they are injuries waiting to happen.

Bill R.

by **Doug Frees** » Sat, 14 Jun 2003 20:54:09

Quote:

> I've just started running again after a long hiatus - about 10 years.
> I'm 6'3" and a year of Weight Watchers and steady walking has dropped
> my weight from 292 (!) to 238.

Congratulations for loosing the weight and using a sensible eating
regimen.

Quote:

> All of the New Balance shoes I've tried were too narrow in the
> forefoot.

NB come in many widths through 4E so I don't understand narrow.

< ASICS GT-2070s feel pretty good, as did a pair of Nike Air

Quote:

> Max Motos and Air Pegasus. I just tried them on in the store, didn't
> do any serious running in them.

I can only offer anecdotal claptrap but the I have liked the 20nn
series for many years. You can still find the 70's but I'd go with
the 80's. The 20nn is listed under the stability column but it's
very well cushioned with the stability.

I'm a little confused you say the NB are to narrow yet you like the
Nike? Nike's are notoriously narrow but do have a few models in
extra widths. Might you have the Nike and NB reversed?

You may get a few more miles out of the 20nn but your weight will
limit the miles to 300ish. Remember the touted 400-500 miles is an
average. Good luck....

--
Caveat Lector
"the further you go outside, the further you go inside" - B. McKibben
Doug Freese

by **Dave B** » Sat, 14 Jun 2003 23:18:00

Quote:

>I'm a pretty good runner, don't need a lot of motion control, but
>stability and cushioning are important. Does anyone have a
>recommendation for a shoe for a biomechanically OK, but heavyweight
>runner?

Everyone is different, but I suggest you take a look at the Brooks
Trance. They're built to hold up to heavier runners and have some
stability features, but they aren't motion control shoes.

Good heel and forefoot cushioning, too.

by **Jean S. Bart** » Sat, 14 Jun 2003 23:36:15

I'd also suggest the Brooks Adrenaline--I'm also heavier than I should be
for my height, etc, and can only get 300 miles *max* on shoes--so far
they're holding out OK. They also have some *stability* features coupled
with a good amount of forefoot cushioning.

I had one pair of Nike Pegasus 1 1/2 years ago--they broke down quickly and
aggrevated my plantar fasciatis. I'd never get another pair.

It's also important to have more than one pair of running shoes--actually
it's probably best to have 3 or 4 pair of shoes in the rotation, since it
takes more than one day to dry out shoes in wet/humid conditions

Just my two cents--YMMV,

Jean in VA (the *Imelda Marcos* of running shoes, 9 pairs right now)

Quote:

> >I'm a pretty good runner, don't need a lot of motion control, but
> >stability and cushioning are important. Does anyone have a
> >recommendation for a shoe for a biomechanically OK, but heavyweight
> >runner?

> Everyone is different, but I suggest you take a look at the Brooks
> Trance. They're built to hold up to heavier runners and have some
> stability features, but they aren't motion control shoes.

> Good heel and forefoot cushioning, too.

by **swim** » Sun, 15 Jun 2003 00:43:05

Quote:

> I had one pair of Nike Pegasus 1 1/2 years ago--they broke down quickly and
> aggrevated my plantar fasciatis. I'd never get another pair.

I will put in a plug for Pegs as road racing shoes -- they're nice and
light, and mine fit like a dream (Nikes always seem to fit me very well,
damn them). I wouldn't use them as daily workout shoes, however. Not
enough support.

Scott

by **Young Goodm** » Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:08:01

Quote:

>Date: 6/13/2003 11:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time

>I will put in a plug for Pegs -- they're nice and
>light, and mine fit like a dream

A ***plug?

Quote:

> I wouldn't use them as daily workout

I wouldn't use them as a daily workout either. They hardly cause you to burn
calories. I doubt I would even wear one running.

Goodman Brown

President Bush wouldn't be the head of missing persons in the Sharpton
administration. He can't find Bin Laden, we don't know if Saddam is alive or
dead, and can't find any weapons of mass destruction. - Rev. Sharpton

by **Bill-sometimes-hard-Rodger** » Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:11:13

Quote:

>> I had one pair of Nike Pegasus 1 1/2 years ago--they broke down quickly and
>> aggrevated my plantar fasciatis. I'd never get another pair.

Listen to him, not this:

Quote:

>I will put in a plug for Pegs as road racing shoes -- they're nice and
>light, and mine fit like a dream (Nikes always seem to fit me very well,
>damn them). I wouldn't use them as daily workout shoes, however. Not
>enough support.

>Scott

Nikes suck!

Bill R.

by **Bill-sometimes-hard-Rodger** » Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:18:10

Quote:

>A ***plug?

That's the only kind a Nike person knows about.

Bill R.

by **Brian Mollenkop** » Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:01:26

Try NB 1022s, they come in different widths.

Brian

Quote:

> I've just started running again after a long hiatus - about 10 years.
> I'm 6'3" and a year of Weight Watchers and steady walking has dropped
> my weight from 292 (!) to 238.

> I've started running again; i'm up to 3.5 miles x 4 times a week at a
> leisurely 9-10 minute pace. So far, everything feels pretty good - I
> don't have any joint pain, my shoes are wearing evenly, and I'm not
> pronating or supinating heavily. And I'm really enjoying getting out
> on the road again.

> I've done about 150 miles in a pair of ASICS Gel-Cumulus IIs I bought
> earlier this year, and am starting to suspect the poor midsoles have
> spring their last after all of this weight squishing them into
> submission.

> I'm a pretty good runner, don't need a lot of motion control, but
> stability and cushioning are important. Does anyone have a
> recommendation for a shoe for a biomechanically OK, but heavyweight
> runner?

> All of the New Balance shoes I've tried were too narrow in the
> forefoot. ASICS GT-2070s feel pretty good, as did a pair of Nike Air
> Max Motos and Air Pegasus. I just tried them on in the store, didn't
> do any serious running in them.

> Thanks!

by **Mrsg** » Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:17:58

You've accomplished a great deal! Good for you! Weight Watchers is a
wonderful program. I used it after each of my pregnancies. I had no idea
how much I didn't know about nutrition until I went to those meetings.
Like you, I've found the New Balance shoes to be very narrow. I would
recommend Sauconys. They have a wide toe box and a narrower heel. Going to
a good running store for a fitting would also be a good idea.
Hang in there with the food plan and the running. You've been at it
long enough now that it is becoming a new way of life, and weight loss is
only permanent when you develop a lifestyle that supports it.
Michelle

by **Kelly Le** » Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:05:00

Quote:

> I'm a pretty good runner, don't need a lot of motion control, but
> stability and cushioning are important. Does anyone have a
> recommendation for a shoe for a biomechanically OK, but heavyweight
> runner?

> All of the New Balance shoes I've tried were too narrow in the
> forefoot. ASICS GT-2070s feel pretty good, as did a pair of Nike Air
> Max Motos and Air Pegasus. I just tried them on in the store, didn't
> do any serious running in them.

I've been running in NB1220's since Jan. and I've gone from 213lb. to
185lb. I really like the NB1220's, I've got just over 500 mi. on them
and even though the heals are wearing down, they are still comfortable.
At about 250 mi. I replaced the insoles. I just ordered another pair
and will start wearing them on my LSD's and still wear these on my
shorter runs until they wear down a bit more. They aren't cheap at
$129, so want to get as much out of them as possible. I wear a D width,
but they offer width's up to 4E I think, and when they say size up a 1/2
a size, they mean it, been there done that.

Kelly Lee

by **Bill-sometimes-hard-Rodger** » Sun, 15 Jun 2003 02:20:50

Quote:

>I've gone from 213lb. to
>185lb.

WOW! You are one faaaaaaaaaaaaaat ***!

Bill R.

by **K. Obero** » Sun, 15 Jun 2003 02:34:20

Thanks for all the responses!

I bought a pair of medium-width NBs, forgot the model number. I have a
b-width foot, and everything fit well, on the side/forefoot the shoes
rubbed my feet. They're the only shoes that I've experienced this
with.

I've worn Nikes on and off for years and they fit fine. What I did
notice is that most of the NB shoes I saw on the wall were made on a
straight last. My ASICS and the Nikes flare a bit at the forefoot,
giving a bit more room.

Quote:

>> All of the New Balance shoes I've tried were too narrow in the
>> forefoot.

>NB come in many widths through 4E so I don't understand narrow.
>I'm a little confused you say the NB are to narrow yet you like the
>Nike? Nike's are notoriously narrow but do have a few models in
>extra widths. Might you have the Nike and NB reversed?

>You may get a few more miles out of the 20nn but your weight will
>limit the miles to 300ish. Remember the touted 400-500 miles is an
>average. Good luck....

by **Scott Cunningha** » Sun, 15 Jun 2003 09:49:04

Two suggestions come to mind.

First, while I'm not a big fan of buying shoes over the net, some of the
big outlets have decent shoe finder guides. Try Roadrunner or someplace
like that. If I remember right, Runners World has something like this
on their website as well. These will let you search shoes by features
and offer suggestions based on the input you provide.

Second, having said the above, after you do the research go to a decent
running shoe store. Don't go to one of the national shoe box sales
places, but rather someplace that caters to runners. Ask around if you
need help finding one.

Armed with some background material, you will be in a good position to
make a more-informed decision. Be sure to take your current running
shoes with you when you buy the new ones.

Runners World has some guidelines on their website about what to look
for in a running shoe store.

Keep running!

Scott

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