>then Israel and Palestine have a shot.
Tell me what a HRM will tell you when you head up some the hills around
here in Ithaca, NY in the heat of the summer?
HRM tells you your heart is beating, BUT how well does it tell you
what's going on inside of the muscle tissues?
Like anything else, even the stopwatch, paying too much attention to a
"gizzmo" is what is limiting to your running. Learn to listen to your
In my mind the athletes have always been ahead of the scienctists, just
look at all of the past prognostications about the 4 minute mile.
Trust yourself, don't fool yourself, work hard, rest, eat real food,
repeat over & over, just do it.
Here in Ithaca, NY
5 degrees this morning
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>>4) New runners should keep them in the closet until they have gained a
>>"feel" for running and exertion levels.
>I disagree. The only time I used a HRM was when I was a new runner. I would run
>until the high alarm went off and then walk until the low alarm went off. The
>rapid decline in the time spent walking convinced me I was getting fitter and
>was one of the things that kept me going. After I could run about 2 miles
>nonstop I lost interest in the HRM and began tracking my pace. I really don't
>know how useful it would be now, but I think for a new runner it can be very
This is one of those areas I'm not sure of, but I put it in for
discussion. And figured you'd disagree. <g>
Your use of it seems somewhat unique. I think what most of us would
argue is that you really didn't need the HRM to tell you to slow down.
And if the formula you used was inaccurate for you, then you may have
slowed too soon.
Now I'll also concede that that very thing may serve as a safety valve
for new runners - slowing them and preventing over-use injuries like
shin splints, etc.
Maybe we can modify that part to say a HRM is useful for new runners
in making sure they aren't pushing too hard, but at some point, <after
they're running regularly, non-stop>, they need to put it away and
start learning how to read their body.
Ironman Canada '98 16:17:03
Great Floridian '99, 17:13:38
>Your use of it seems somewhat unique. I think what most of us would
>argue is that you really didn't need the HRM to tell you to slow down.
(Numbers being arabic versions of the roman figures Sam? posts from
time to time, with the middle zone being something to avoid as it is
too hard to be easy, and too easy to train hard. Also my result, and
reason why I'm trying to stay out of that zone.)
Whether a HRM would do _me_ any good for this purpose, I'm not so sure.
Experimentation on the fitness center bikes (pulse counters on the handlebars)
has confirmed that altering my breathing pattern can produce a 20+ bpm
change in pulse. Given that almost without fail my running pulse (when
I stop and count) is the same 168 regardless of whether it is a light
jog to anything short of race efforts and hard intervals, my inference
is that when running, I control the breathing (depth and rate) so as to
maintain the same pulse. (Anyone else do this?)
If I'd used an HRM as an interpretive tool (as I did with the center
bike), then I'd have learned this 4 years ago and would have been able
to direct my attention more properly to my breathing rather than heart.
Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links.
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences
I'd also argue with this use being unique. Everything I ever read on HRM's
suggests you use them to stay within a zone.
> I've always suggested using the money to hire a coach or joining a serious
> running club rather han throwing it away on an HRM.
> If someone has the money to blow and wants to get one for fun and
> that's another thing I guess, as long as they're not mislead into thinking
> will benefit their performance.