Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by icediv » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:38:37


Accept the challenge, Popeye, and I will donate $200 to
DAN whether I win or lose.  Simple challenge:  Log more
dives than me between now and 12/31/02, and you will not
owe anything.  My Aladin Pro computer logs every dive
with a detailed profile, and this cannot be faked.  I'll
have proof of my dives, and I would hope you do too.
The judge (Lee Bell?, Dan Bracuk?, Mike Gray?) will have
the final word.  DAN either gets $400 ($200 from you the
loser, and $200 from me) or $200 (from me, the loser).
I'd really like to see you break away from ***diving and
do some real dives.  Game?
 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by Pope » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:00:23

Quote:

>Date: 8/13/02 10:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time

>Accept the challenge, Popeye, and I will donate $200 to
>DAN whether I win or lose.  Simple challenge:  Log more
>dives than me between now and 12/31/02, and you will not
>owe anything.  My Aladin Pro computer logs every dive
>with a detailed profile, and this cannot be faked.

  My Suunto is just as detailed.

  Although I don't know if your Alladin is AI, mine is not.

  Then we'll have to assume neither can be faked.

Quote:
> I'll have proof of my dives, and I would hope you do too.
>The judge (Lee Bell?, Dan Bracuk?, Mike Gray?)

  I'd frankly suggest more than one, so no calls of foul play from my opponent
can be entertained later.

Quote:
> will have
>the final word.  DAN either gets $400 ($200 from you the
>loser, and $200 from me) or $200 (from me, the loser).
>I'd really like to see you break away from ***diving and
>do some real dives.  Game?

  The bottom line is, there is no way for either of us to verify the other. I
dive solo too much. None of your sock puppets count. The computers will have to
be the last word.

  Check my other post, agree to the terms, you're on.

                                       Popeye
                 When a dog pisses on a fire hydrant, he's
                      not committing an act of vandalism.
                              He's just being a dog.

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by jim fre » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:56:48


Quote:
> Accept the challenge, Popeye, and I will donate $200 to
> DAN whether I win or lose.  Simple challenge:  Log more
> dives than me between now and 12/31/02, and you will not
> owe anything.  My Aladin Pro computer logs every dive
> with a detailed profile, and this cannot be faked.

yes you can fake the dives - put the computer in a water-filled air
compressor tank - increase the pressure to 2 or more atm, hold for >10
minutes, release - wahlah - a "logged" dive.

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by Pope » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:19:57

Quote:

>Date: 8/14/02 12:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time



>> Accept the challenge, Popeye, and I will donate $200 to
>> DAN whether I win or lose.  Simple challenge:  Log more
>> dives than me between now and 12/31/02, and you will not
>> owe anything.  My Aladin Pro computer logs every dive
>> with a detailed profile, and this cannot be faked.

>yes you can fake the dives - put the computer in a water-filled air
>compressor tank - increase the pressure to 2 or more atm, hold for >10
>minutes, release - wahlah - a "logged" dive.

  He also has a whole dive club to pass the computer around to.

  We can verify the dives, but not the diver.

                                       Popeye
                 When a dog pisses on a fire hydrant, he's
                      not committing an act of vandalism.
                              He's just being a dog.

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by Steve Fole » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 20:37:57

It would be easier to use a fishing pole.


Quote:


> > Accept the challenge, Popeye, and I will donate $200 to
> > DAN whether I win or lose.  Simple challenge:  Log more
> > dives than me between now and 12/31/02, and you will not
> > owe anything.  My Aladin Pro computer logs every dive
> > with a detailed profile, and this cannot be faked.

> yes you can fake the dives - put the computer in a water-filled air
> compressor tank - increase the pressure to 2 or more atm, hold for >10
> minutes, release - wahlah - a "logged" dive.

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by Steve Krame » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 21:35:20

Quote:

> It would be easier to use a fishing pole.





> > > Accept the challenge, Popeye, and I will donate $200 to
> > > DAN whether I win or lose.  Simple challenge:  Log more
> > > dives than me between now and 12/31/02, and you will not
> > > owe anything.  My Aladin Pro computer logs every dive
> > > with a detailed profile, and this cannot be faked.

> > yes you can fake the dives - put the computer in a water-filled air
> > compressor tank - increase the pressure to 2 or more atm, hold for >10
> > minutes, release - wahlah - a "logged" dive.

Why would Dr. Black go to all that bother if he is going to pay
REGARDLESS of winning or losing? He made a VERY simple challenge. Just
log more dives than he between now and 12/31/02. Nothing else. No and's,
if's, or but's.

The only one with everything to lose is Popeye; lose his cash if he
fails to make more dives, lose his validity if he squirms out of this
challenge by demanding all sorts of changes to a very simple challenge,
and lose 'face' just as soon as he does. (Which has already happened...)

The only way Popeye can gain ANYTHING is by simply saying "yes, I agree
to your challenge." Period. No changes. No conditions. No codicils, No
nothing. Just a simple "Yes, I agree to your challenge. And that will
happen the next time it snows in Key Largo. Or was that Key West?

Steve Kramer
Chiang Mai, Thailand
Three years, eleven months, three weeks, three days, 13 hours, 27
minutes and 22 seconds. 43636 cigarettes not smoked, saving $8,727.36.
Life used for a better purpose: 21 weeks, 4 days, 12 hours, 20 minutes.

--
"The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons,
but in seeing with new eyes."  -  Marcel Proust

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Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by Pope » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 22:22:11

Quote:

>Why would Dr. Black go to all that bother if he is going to pay
>REGARDLESS of winning or losing? He made a VERY simple challenge. Just
>log more dives than he between now and 12/31/02. Nothing else. No and's,
>if's, or but's.

 Why does he lie and use sockpuppest? You need to spend time on your own
psychological problems, instead of asking us to analyze his.

  His point is egomania. Will he cheat? Sure he will. His desire to win is
simply the only way he can best me here. The fact that he does more dives than
me was never a contention to him, you or anyone. But I'm game.

Quote:
>The only one with everything to lose is Popeye; lose his cash if he
>fails to make more dives, lose his validity if he squirms out of this
>challenge by demanding all sorts of changes to a very simple challenge,
>and lose 'face' just as soon as he does. (Which has already happened...)

  As usual, the Jedi Mind Trick is your only available tool. I have nothing to
lose for a variety of reasons. First, I don't have the self esteem problem you
do. Just the very sight of you following me around this thread is titillating.
Doing the Bobo two-step. If I lose, there's no draconian implication of my
status within the newsgroup. Everyone knows me. Many have met me. People trust
me to dive with, compliment my diving, thank me for help and advice, invite me
into their homes.

    I am what I am. As having been previously attested to by many. You two are
the fakirs/hiders/actors.

   It's a reflection on me, and a reflection on you and him. And that's what
you two can't stand.
  Just. Can't. Stand.

  I'll be laughing till New Years.

  Hey, Steve, how many Rec.scubans have visited you at home this year, not even
to dive, but just say hello? <snicker>

  How many newsgroup dives have you been on? Whoooo Hoo!  

  My well documented reason to be here is meet people, make friends, go diving.

  Your, and his, reason is to salve your pathetic, damaged ego. That's why you
continually belittle the newsgroup and it's participants, claim yourself aloof
while most consider you on par with me (flatly stated more than once), the
-ultimate- insult. And why you always return to chat.

  >The only way Popeye can gain ANYTHING is by simply saying "yes, I agree

Quote:
>to your challenge." Period. No changes. No conditions. No codicils, No
>nothing. Just a simple "Yes, I agree to your challenge. And that will
>happen the next time it snows in Key Largo. Or was that Key West?

  And if we take the bet on -your- terms, I could win hands down.

  Everybody's corrected you here like the petulant little boy you are, I won't
bother.

  We can all see you sweating from here.

                                       Popeye
                 When a dog pisses on a fire hydrant, he's
                      not committing an act of vandalism.
                              He's just being a dog.

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by icediv » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:00:46

Quote:

> Check my other post, agree to the terms, you're on.

What other post?  The one of many where you call me sheep***er?
Stop equivocating, and spell out your terms.  Also, a dive cannot
be faked on an Aladin Pro...by looking at the profile one could
easily see if the computer was held stationary from a boat such as
some devious poster suggested.

Face it Doughboy, you are all talk and no action.  A faker who
has no life, no girlfriend, no real job (a bouncer?), no dry suit
(but that won't stop you from being an expert), no dive travel
experience, and no dives.  You will chicken out of this challenge
(no balls).

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by Pope » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:41:23

Quote:

>Date: 8/14/02 10:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time



>> Check my other post, agree to the terms, you're on.

>What other post?  The one of many where you call me sheep***er?

  When aren't you, and when don't I?

  And I'm not alone...heh heh heh...

  Your sheepmounting reputation will soon escalate to be -interplanetary-.

  (The only place it has left to expand to)

Quote:
>Stop equivocating, and spell out your terms.

  I did, at 9:41 last night, and e-mailed it to you, fuquit.

  You must have been "on" a velcro date.

  Go find it, I don't have enough hooves to be your secretary.  

Quote:
> Also, a dive cannot
>be faked on an Aladin Pro...by looking at the profile one could
>easily see if the computer was held stationary from a boat such as
>some devious poster suggested.

  1) So by your (incorrect) assumption, dives can't be faked on a computer, but
what about other people wearing your computer?

Quote:
>Face it Doughboy, you are all talk and no action.

  I'm the most witnessed diver here, a fact that really ticks you and the ***
off. :-)

Quote:
> A faker who has no life,

  Compared to WHO (oooo Hoooo)! :-)

Quote:
> no girlfriend,

  Flock molesting doesn't count.

no real job (a bouncer?), no dry suit

Quote:
>(but that won't stop you from being an expert), no dive travel
>experience, and no dives.  You will chicken out of this challenge
>(no balls).

  We'll soon see who's chicken, and has no balls. It'll be glaringly obvious
-today-.

  This -very- day.

                                       Popeye
                 When a dog pisses on a fire hydrant, he's
                      not committing an act of vandalism.
                              He's just being a dog.

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by Pope » Thu, 15 Aug 2002 23:46:53

Quote:

>  I did, at 9:41 last night, and e-mailed it to you, fuquit.

  10:48.

                                       Popeye
                 When a dog pisses on a fire hydrant, he's
                      not committing an act of vandalism.
                              He's just being a dog.

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by ben bradle » Fri, 16 Aug 2002 01:48:42

Best case scenario:  Bragging rights and fun diving.

Worst case scenario:  A good cause gets $200 of your money and fun diving.

Hmmmmm.

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by Ashley Krame » Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:43:08

Quote:

> Why would Dr. Black go to all that bother if he is going to pay
> REGARDLESS of winning or losing? He made a VERY simple challenge. Just
> log more dives than he between now and 12/31/02. Nothing else. No and's,
> if's, or but's.

Oh please Steve

It's not the money, I have no doubt Black would say that he would pay huge
amounts of money as long as it got him the what he wanted, which is to
somehow (in his own fevered imagination) humiliate Popeye.

It's all irrelevant because Black will follow his normal form and simply not
pay up when the time comes, regardless of the outcome. He has shown that he
can't be trusted and that makes him pretty damn worthless as a dive buddy
and as a human being.

Ashley

 
 
 

Icediver Will Donate $200 To DAN Anyway

Post by Dan Brac » Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:53:12

From Steve Kramer
:And that will
:happen the next time it snows in Key Largo. Or was that Key West?

Based on Capt Jim Wyatt's post from yesterday, I would say Key West.

Dan Bracuk
Toronto, Canada
All men are cremated equal.
Best of Rec.Scuba http://www.chaoticarts.com/~scuba/

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