Ok, ok, I'll say the 'F' word...

Ok, ok, I'll say the 'F' word...

Post by AnalogR » Tue, 01 May 2001 12:36:59


The beer did flow, and more (in the form of homebrew) will flow before and
around the next KDFC.  The rigger got his choice of beverage, and my thanks go
out to him and to Wavey Davey Cunha, the instructor for my FJC.  I pulled
silver for the first time yesterday.

Did a 20-way, and was back in the center as the base as everyone else took off
at 4500.  The four of us broke at 3k, tracked and started to pull.  Reaching
for my hackey, I grabbed what I thought was it and pulled, to have it come away
in my hand.  Tried again, and found nothing again.  Immediately pulled silver,
getting whipped into the saddle by a baby blue Raven II.  Estimate is initial
pull was about 2300, reserve pull was at 1700, in the saddle before 1300.
Think the first grab actually got me the BOC pouch, which is why it came away
in my hand.  Nice, snappy opening on the reserve, hope the rigger will pack it
the same way again.

The neck is a little sore from getting whipped by a terminal reserve
deployment, and I think I may have cracked a rib, will go to see the doc about
it tomorrow.  Didn't stop me from making four more jumps with the 20-way group
yesterday, not going to keep me from jumping next weekend.  Again, I didn't
have homebrew yesterday, but will the next time we're out.

Blue skies,
Todd Owen
D22450

 
 
 

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Post by W. Scott Wats » Tue, 01 May 2001 15:23:27

Quote:
> Estimate is initial
>pull was about 2300, reserve pull was at 1700, in the saddle before 1300.

thats some quick pulling...
Scott Watson
D-19166  BJDS#5
SL and IAD JM and I

 "There are only two reasons to sit in the back row of an
 airplane: Either
 you have diarrhea, or you're anxious to meet people who do."
   -- Henry Kissenger (former US Secretary of State)

 
 
 

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Post by Grrr » Tue, 01 May 2001 16:39:07

Hooray!

How many jumps overall now? Your post didn't say.

Sorry about the rib. And neck. "At least" it's competition for a
headache  ??

Chris
< grrr >
B-22629

 
 
 

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Post by TY » Tue, 01 May 2001 22:07:34

Congratulations, Todd.  Glad it all turned out OK and hope your rib is alright.

I'm not sure I understand what happened though.  What came away in your hand?  What
do you mean by "the first grab actually got me the BOC pouch"?  Did you just not
find the handle?

Blue ones,
Donna

Quote:

> The beer did flow, and more (in the form of homebrew) will flow before and
> around the next KDFC.  The rigger got his choice of beverage, and my thanks go
> out to him and to Wavey Davey Cunha, the instructor for my FJC.  I pulled
> silver for the first time yesterday.

> Did a 20-way, and was back in the center as the base as everyone else took off
> at 4500.  The four of us broke at 3k, tracked and started to pull.  Reaching
> for my hackey, I grabbed what I thought was it and pulled, to have it come away
> in my hand.  Tried again, and found nothing again.  Immediately pulled silver,
> getting whipped into the saddle by a baby blue Raven II.  Estimate is initial
> pull was about 2300, reserve pull was at 1700, in the saddle before 1300.
> Think the first grab actually got me the BOC pouch, which is why it came away
> in my hand.  Nice, snappy opening on the reserve, hope the rigger will pack it
> the same way again.

> The neck is a little sore from getting whipped by a terminal reserve
> deployment, and I think I may have cracked a rib, will go to see the doc about
> it tomorrow.  Didn't stop me from making four more jumps with the 20-way group
> yesterday, not going to keep me from jumping next weekend.  Again, I didn't
> have homebrew yesterday, but will the next time we're out.

> Blue skies,
> Todd Owen
> D22450

 
 
 

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Post by Cloud bust » Tue, 01 May 2001 22:05:41

Quote:
>> Estimate is initial
>>pull was about 2300, reserve pull was at 1700, in the saddle before 1300.

>thats some quick pulling...

  I guess there's a lot of speed in fear!! hehehehe
   Way to keep yer head, Toddster!!

Duke

 
 
 

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Post by AnalogR » Tue, 01 May 2001 22:41:27

That was jump #528. As for finding the handle, When I pulled my hand away and I
couldn't get it off the bottom of the container, I'm assuming it was my BOC I
grabbed.  Once I got under the reserve I found my handle wedged between my rig
and my backside.  Can only assume that what I grabbed first was not handle, but
the cordura BOC pouch, it's the only thing right there that might feel like a
handle.

Todd
D22450

 
 
 

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Post by skyeyeskydivin » Tue, 01 May 2001 23:28:13



Quote:
> > Estimate is initial
> >pull was about 2300, reserve pull was at 1700, in the saddle before 1300.

> thats some quick pulling...

You're right in this case Sott, that was pretty quick.

A couple of weeks ago I was filming an 8 way that broke of at 4.500ft. As is
my common practice, as they broke I went to pull but was unable to deploy my
pilot chute. After another couple of tugs I deployed my reserve, opening
down below the majority of those I'd been filming as is clearly shown on the
video.

Well, having gotten a few jumps under my belt along with a few reserve
rides, this was no big deal just something I've come to expect to happen
occasionally and I routinely train for. However, a day or so later an
experienced jumper came to me and said he'd seen the video and he said he
didn't think I'd spent much time dealing with the problem, then he walked
off leaving me standing open mouthed but speechless (not something that
happens often)! I was a little put out at his comment despite the fact that
I believed up until that time that I'd done everything right. That night as
I lay in bed I couldn't sleep as his comments kept ringing in my head and I
lay there restlessly going over and over the sequence of events without
coming to a clear-cut feeling that I had indeed handled things correctly.

The next morning I went straight to the video room and replayed the tape a
few times, running the stopwatch along with it. From my initial pitch to
deployment of my reserve was 12.3 sec. I think I had spent plenty long
enough dealing with the problem! I guess the person who made the statement
has never had a total (my previous one I had cause to deploy my main at just
below 1500ft - which I couldn't - and I gotta tell you the ground gets real
big real quick when your travelling towards it below a thousand feet and
still at terminal)!

My point here is that, if I at my level of experience (and arrogant
attitude) can be sent to bed second guessing my handling of a situation,
perhaps we should all be a little careful of what we say to or around
others, unless we are in full possession of the facts and/or are responsible
for revising their training or procedures. If the things we say or the
doubts we place in a persons mind cause them to act in a manner other than
that which they've been taught to do, perhaps we may become a contributing
factor in their misappropriate handling of a situation!

Just a thought!

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Stay Safe.

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Post by Ann T. Poblen » Wed, 02 May 2001 00:59:29

Wow....
an odd responce indeed...he prolly , as you said, never had a terminal... 12
seconds seems  like an eternity going that fast...that low..
To keep working at that point just plain doesnt make any sence...
Especially with  that potenitally sudden stop about 10 seconds away..
"2 times and out comes silver"..
Been there once (wrongly packed pull-out)
and I wouldnt spend one more second on it if it happend again..

Besides...I always marvel over people debating other peoples mals...they werent
there....

    - - - NunAnn

snip:

Quote:
> Well, having gotten a few jumps under my belt along with a few reserve
> rides, this was no big deal just something I've come to expect to happen
> occasionally and I routinely train for. However, a day or so later an
> experienced jumper came to me and said he'd seen the video and he said he
> didn't think I'd spent much time dealing with the problem, then he walked
> off leaving me standing open mouthed but speechless (not something that
> happens often)! I was a little put out at his comment despite the fact that
> I believed up until that time that I'd done everything right. That night as
> I lay in bed I couldn't sleep as his comments kept ringing in my head and I
> lay there restlessly going over and over the sequence of events without
> coming to a clear-cut feeling that I had indeed handled things correctly.
> The next morning I went straight to the video room and replayed the tape a
> few times, running the stopwatch along with it. From my initial pitch to
> deployment of my reserve was 12.3 sec. I think I had spent plenty long
> enough dealing with the problem! I guess the person who made the statement
> has never had a total (my previous one I had cause to deploy my main at just
> below 1500ft - which I couldn't - and I gotta tell you the ground gets real
> big real quick when your travelling towards it below a thousand feet and
> still at terminal)!

a lot of good stuff snipped
 
 
 

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Post by Rita » Wed, 02 May 2001 07:49:59

Hopefully, your ribs and neck are feeling much better by now ...

Glad too ... very glad ... that everything worked out as advertised.

Blue skies and long life!

--rita


Quote:
> I pulled
> silver for the first time yesterday.