>Date: 9/7/98 Wrote:
>Is there a contest for the most mutated thread subject?
Non, juste pche la cuiller pour Mouton. :-P snuffy
> >>gens de la ville qui sucent. Est-ce que Sotype a perdu trois guerres? Alors
> >>>> vivrai par la devise, "Les marais est ou Fatherland." : - * snuffy
> >Ya know, it doesn't surprise me that there isn't a single response to Snuffy
> >writing this (not content, but language). I think it's because everyone is
> >utterly awestruck that it wasn't that good ol' southern drawl that everyone
> >used to seeing! ;-)
> >lub ya***and blue ones,
> yuh. focking Yuppies cuddn't stand it, so I
> figger frunch wud smoke more Yups into
> putting tha sere into tha kill file. Thay missed
> the whole point. doan wan no jerk ass Yups
> to draw frum country wisdom. Lettum
> suffer. Yuh lakk knocking possums outta
> tha persimon tree. heh, heh :-) snuffy sez
> blues arlo :-*
> If you steal my food, then give me back some small portion of it, the "hand
> that feeds" may well get bit on general principle.
Lets assume that we acknowledge Winsors peculiar claims. I say peculiar
because this is the first I've heard of this idea. If we did so, then the
CSA would be restored and just compensation made for both the war and 130+
years occupation plus interest.
Of course, with regards to compensation, I would assume that the CSA would
also owe the USA for the federal lands it had confiscated and for the
attacks on other federally held installations plus interest starting 130
years ago. Keep in mind that Ft. Sumter was only one of several attacks
made by the CSA prior to any federal military aggression.
Logic being what it is, then its also fair to assume that we should
acknowledge the claims made by the descendents of the people kept in ***
by the various southern states for 300+ years. After all, they were denied
both property and freedom.
Since the descendents of those who were kept in *** would have claims
extending back 450 years compared to the CSAs mere 130 years, I doubt the
CSA would remain solvent. As a result, the newly formed CSA would last only
long enough to be liquidated and distributed as compensation for those
fif*** generations of ***. I suspect Winsor and his comrades would
lose far more than their current tax rate and receive far less than his
Of course, all Lincoln wanted was to restore the nation. Lincoln was a
southerner himself. Indeed, it would probably surprise Winsor to learn that
Lincoln said Dixie was one of the best tunes I ever heard. He had it
played on April 8th, 1865, when visiting City Point prior to Lees surrender
declaring that tune is Federal property. On hearing of Lees surrender on
the 9th, Tad, Lincolns son, waved the confederate flag from the 2nd floor
of the White House as celebrations broke out in the nations capital and
around the White House. Lincoln joined him at the window and ordered the
band to play Dixie again for the gathered crowd. He even joked with the
Attorney General that the song was a lawful prize since the north had
fairly captured it.
Frankly, when I hear Dixie and see the Confederate flag, I cant help but
picture Lincoln standing next to his son while the band played and the
nation began to heal.
I suspect Winsor's loyalty to the South extends only so far. Given a
choice, would Winsor prefer to jump with Blue skies or Gray?
Thought so ;-)
>>> Only the Rebels are American, everybody
>>> else is a Damn Yankee. :-P snuffy
>> i'd still like to see some statistics on just how quick people waiving
>>confederate flags are to apply for federal disater aid, or unemployment,
>>or social security benefits, or a stafford loan, or a pell grant,
>>patriotic? 'eh... just curious
>Residents of the Occupied Confederacy are in a situation similar to that of
>Vichy France. Though the powers that be are in place by dint of the
>forceful takeover by a hostile, foreign power, life goes on.
>Having goddamnedyankees crow about the virtues of their stance is as
>charming as hearing a rapist explalin how she really likes it, and was just
>playing hard to get.
>Just because defeat was accepted, does not mean the cause of the victor had
>merit. Like the "everpresent football player rapist" to which the ***
>Surfers referred, the North was in a position to throw its weight around,
>and did. The Articles of Confederacy had every bit as much legitimacy as
>did the Declaration of Independence, and then some, but the CSA was faced
>with an agressive and determined foe at their border, where the Colonies
>were separated by 3,000 miles of ocean from the government attempting to
>impose its will on the populus.
>The total lack of class which set goddamnedyankees apart from real
>is still very much in evidence.
>Of course, all Lincoln wanted was to restore the nation. Lincoln was a
>> > Being born in KY, doesn't exactly qualify as being a Southerner. KY
>> > never succeded from the Union.
>> And they remain unsuccessful to this day!
>Especially at the big spelling bees!
That's the first I've heard of the theory that someone who was born in the
South isn't a Southerner. Lincolns mother, Nancy, was a ***ian as was
his father, Thomas. Heck, he lived in Kentucky until he was seven. I
suppose the fact that Lincoln's wife was also from Kentucky AND the daughter
of a long-standing Kentucky slave owner makes him even more a Yankee? Maybe
his first job crewing on a flatboat hauling goods to New Orleans on the
Mississippi makes him practically Canadian?
Nope. Lincoln was a Southerner. He may have chosen in to make his career
in Illinois, but thats not where his roots were not by a country mile.
>>Maybe Winsor's right...
>>Of course, all Lincoln wanted was to restore the nation. Lincoln was a
>Being born in KY, doesn't exactly qualify as being a Southerner. KY
>never succeded from the Union. It sent troops to fight for BOTH sides
>during the war(as did several states), but never had the political
>gumption( read stones, aka balls) to succede. He also grew up in IL,
>which is most definately not a Southern state.
>Just run a DejaNews search on "Boycott Holiday Inn" and see what turns
>up from our little group.