abother chest strap question

abother chest strap question

Post by Livendi » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:

>>This news group is in the public domain for use by either skydivers or
>>non-skydivers.  Last I knew, the first amendment hasn't been repealed.
>>.......In my opinion, the question at hand is a legitimate question for
public
>>discussion.

>>I would like to be able to say that I'm sorry if  ideas offend you, Julie.
But
>>alas, this is America.  Perhaps you should become accustomed to free speech.

Bob - I think her concern was a valid one, not so much directed at common,
curious whuffo's, but maybe at plaintiffs and/or their lawyers.  My impression
of the initial post(s) was that it could very well be someone milking for
information regarding the recent Gonzales fatality.  It sounds to me like
someone trying to use skydivers to***other skydivers.  I hate the thought
of that and just ain't gonna play.  I personally wish everyone else would stop
playing too, but to each their own.  I'm not gonna try to convince anyone one
way or the other.

EFS,
Dave

 
 
 

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Post by Tooy » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


>If you are a wuffo, or worse yet, get OFF our newsgroup.
>I would like to be able to say that I'm sorry if  ideas offend you, Julie.
>But
>alas, this is America.  Perhaps you should become accustomed to free speech.
>Bob

***********************************
Thuts too mild Bob tell her to bite yer ass
or sumthang. :-* snuffy

 
 
 

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Post by Tooy » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

Wrote:
>Bob,

>It's possible you missed Julie's point...and her concern.

>She noted that there are rumors of pending litigation in connection with the
>Louisiana fatality involving an
>improperly routed chest strap. Her concern
>apppears to be that the lawyers have come to r.s looking for
>information that
>might bolster whatever cause of action they've dreamed up.

>What we write here isn't evidence, but it does provide clues to interested
>parties as to where they might look for additional information.

>It's all well and good to think of this as a virtual campfire and open it to
>all sorts of discussion, no holds barred...until you remember that ANYONE
>could
>be "listening" and that the "conversation" is archived for future
>readers...whoever they might be.
>Something to consider.

***********************************
Yuh Bob, tell the Lawyers to bite yer ass
or somehang :-* snuffy

 
 
 

abother chest strap question

Post by M.A. Loving » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00



Quote:


>> >earlier, I asked:
>> >If your chest strap was not attached (for whatever reason) on a basic rig
>> >doing a basic stomach to earth opening would you fall right out of the rig
>> >when the chute opened?

>> >Thanks to all who answered, but what I was really asking was: could you
>> >survive if you did not know the strap was undone?  Assume the strap is
>> >completely unattached, not attached loosely or incorrectly.  Has anyone
>> >eveer jumped like this or spoke to anyone who has?

>> Right after I pull, I cross my arms, so I doubt that an undone chest
>> strap would do much.  If you keep your arch after you pull, you will
>> continue on with your freefall and all your friends will think of you
>> as an idiot...

>Personally, I begin sitting up to take opening shock on the leg straps
>and am reaching up to have my hands lightly touching the risers during
>line stretch.  This has me sitting up, shoulders wide, so that in the
>very unlikely event of not having my chest strap connected I will not
>fall out of the harness.  I am also ready for an immediate rear riser
>turn to avoid a collision with another jumper.  

The last time that I reached up to catch my risers, I broke 3 bones in
my hand.  Real shitty and long story.  Anyways, I don't reach anymore,
just wait till I'm vertical, and then grab them.

Regards,

Mark Lovinger

 
 
 

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Post by Cliff Helle » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> well we have already seen what can happen to you on this newgroup. Yes you
> can fall out if you do not know your chest strap is undone.  

I fell out of the newsgroup quite a few times.
It's unpleasant, but you get used to it.

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abother chest strap question

Post by Cliff Helle » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> This news group is in the public domain for use by either skydivers or
> non-skydivers.  Last I knew, the first amendment hasn't been repealed.

No, but in Malaysia, they appear to be attempting to repeal the laws of
supply and demand.

(I'll be none of you even know what I'm talking about).

Quote:
> I would like to be able to say that I'm sorry if ideas offend you, Julie.
> But alas, this is America.  Perhaps you should become accustomed to free
> speech.

> Bob

While I agree, completely, Bob, I have to point out that this is NOT
America.  I'm currently in a country that doesn't have free speech, and is
probably better off without it.  I know that sounds like heresy to American
ears, but I really believe it to be true.  America, of course, needs to
have free speech.  It's one of the underpinnings of the culture.

I can also appreciate the sentiment of telling a whuffo or lawyer who comes
here under false pretenses to *** right off.  That's also protected speech
(in the US), as is telling that person to themselves *** off.  Isn't free
speech neat?

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Post by Hans Erik Stueflotte » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


> > This news group is in the public domain for use by either skydivers or
> > non-skydivers.  Last I knew, the first amendment hasn't been repealed.

> No, but in Malaysia, they appear to be attempting to repeal the laws of
> supply and demand.

> (I'll be none of you even know what I'm talking about).

You mean the fact that Malaysia has made it illegal to use it's country
currency as payment in foreign countries starting from Oct 1., and that
shares(stocks??, sorry, my business english ain't the best) can't be sold to a
prize lower than the buying prize the nest year? Or is it something i missed?

Bluesky

 
 
 

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Post by Cliff Helle » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00


Quote:
> You mean the fact that Malaysia has made it illegal to use it's country
> currency as payment in foreign countries starting from Oct 1., and that
> shares(stocks??, sorry, my business english ain't the best) can't be sold to a
> prize lower than the buying prize the nest year? Or is it something i missed?

yah, basically.  Sorry, I forgot that there are euro's on the group who
actually pay attention to news in countries besides Lewinskistan.

They are walling off their currency from speculation, which of course
isolates their economy from foreign investment that they sorely need.

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  /     \                                               God Plays Dice!
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Post by SKY-.. » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> I did a two way at Headcorn many years ago with someone who has been
> known to lurk this NG. When we landed he was swearing and throwing his
> fraphat around (any clues yet?).

I started reading this post and thought 'I don't remember that..........

Quote:
> It wuld appear that his chest strap was
> undone and he lost his alti on opening.

.........I certainly didn't remember this..........

Quote:
> I'm sure it inspired some of his best paintings :)

....then I read this and it all became clear!     ;-)

BS

Martin.

--
"Never confuse movement with action".  Ernest Hemingway

 
 
 

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Post by Tooy » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:
>From: Cliff Heller  Wrote:
>but I really believe it to be true.  America, of course, needs to
>have free speech.  It's one of the underpinnings of the culture.

**********************************
Only the Rebels are American, everybody
else is a Damn Yankee. :-P snuffy
 
 
 

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Post by rick nelso » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> >From: Cliff Heller  Wrote:
> >but I really believe it to be true.  America, of course, needs to
> >have free speech.  It's one of the underpinnings of the culture.
> **********************************
> Only the Rebels are American, everybody
> else is a Damn Yankee. :-P snuffy

 Most people these days would have been Tories if they had been alive
in  1776.
        rick
 
 
 

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Post by floyd » Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:

> Only the Rebels are American, everybody
> else is a Damn Yankee. :-P snuffy

  i'd still like to see some statistics on just how quick people waiving
confederate flags are to apply for federal disater aid, or unemployment,
or social security benefits, or a stafford loan, or a pell grant,
etc..etc...

patriotic? 'eh... just curious


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Post by Winsor Naugler II » Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Quote:


>> Only the Rebels are American, everybody
>> else is a Damn Yankee. :-P snuffy

>  i'd still like to see some statistics on just how quick people waiving
>confederate flags are to apply for federal disater aid, or unemployment,
>or social security benefits, or a stafford loan, or a pell grant,
>etc..etc...

>patriotic? 'eh... just curious

Residents of the Occupied Confederacy are in a situation similar to that of
Vichy France.  Though the powers that be are in place by dint of the
forceful takeover by a hostile, foreign power, life goes on.

Having goddamnedyankees crow about the virtues of their stance is as
charming as hearing a rapist explalin how she really likes it, and was just
playing hard to get.

Just because defeat was accepted, does not mean the cause of the victor had
merit.  Like the "everpresent football player rapist" to which the ***
Surfers referred, the North was in a position to throw its weight around,
and did.  The Articles of Confederacy had every bit as much legitimacy as
did the Declaration of Independence, and then some, but the CSA was faced
with an agressive and determined foe at their border, where the Colonies
were separated by 3,000 miles of ocean from the government attempting to
impose its will on the populus.

The total lack of class which set goddamnedyankees apart from real Americans
is still very much in evidence.

Blue skies,

Winsor